SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)

So is the plan to mask up whenever you go to the supermarket indefinitely? Or is there a threshold for case numbers below which you’ll let your guard down?

I can totally understand people masking up if they’re worried about their own safety (or family members at home) but don’t really get the end game of those still wearing masks for the greater good. Especially now that covid has an IFR < flu. Because this means you’re committing to life long masking so long as covid or flu is in active circulation.

Just chewing the fat here. Obviously wouldn’t confront someone in person over this. I’m not a total monster like Will Smith.
Realistically mask up until it becomes so unusual that I look like a loon for doing it. I'm reasonably chill with people thinking I'm a bit of an overreactor or that I'm virtue signalling but less chill about people thinking I've got some massively paranoid thing going on and I assume that'll be the assumption once it becomes very, very rare to see people in masks.
 
Out of interest, why are you still wearing a mask? Not judging, just curious.

I still wear one in shops, mostly to be courteous to others. The guy who runs my local corner shop always wears his so I feel bad if I go in without. For all I know he could be immunocompromised. If I forget to take it out with me so be it but it doesn't take much effort to put it on when I go in a shop.
 
Realistically mask up until it becomes so unusual that I look like a loon for doing it. I'm reasonably chill with people thinking I'm a bit of an overreactor or that I'm virtue signalling but less chill about people thinking I've got some massively paranoid thing going on and I assume that'll be the assumption once it becomes very, very rare to see people in masks.

Fair enough. It’s a tricky one to negotiate. I’ve gone for following the official guidance as that way I feel less judged by either side of the mask culture war. Sounds like I have thinner skin than you (so maybe I’m more like Will Smith than I thought? :nervous:)
 
The other thing about masks now is that you’d need to wear the FFP2 disposable masks to do anything meaningful to omicron transmission and I hate the idea of contributing to millions of the fecking things ending up in landfill unnecessarily. Wearing a reusable cloth covering is completely pointless and they were the only type mask I’ve been wearing.
 
Yeah I honestly don’t know anymore, I’m lost since the governments removed all restrictions and it’s barely reported. Which on one hand is good but on the other I’d like to know the answer to questions like reinfection
My daughter tested positive for 7 days middle of February, felt slightly ill , runny nose cough for a few days . She has just tested positive again for 16 days this time and was knocked for six by it , coughing until she was coughing up blood, fatigue , headaches , high temperatures and feverish . Her 10 year old son was positive both times but the 5Year old and 2 year old only on the second time. It seems very hit and miss .
 
I was convinced I had it after a stag do last weekend. Half the people that went ended up positive and I had all the symptoms bar loss of taste/smell. Did a LFT four days in a row and tested negative each time.

Almost wish I had been positive as it’s my sister’s wedding soon and I’ve been scolded by the family for getting tickets to the Leicester game 7 days before.

I guess it probably would be quite stupid to go :lol:
 
After a few days of gradually fading lines I took a test yesterday and it came up super quick...is it just luck of the draw with the sample or have I got super covid.
 
After a few days of gradually fading lines I took a test yesterday and it came up super quick...is it just luck of the draw with the sample or have I got super covid.
Maybe you reinfected yourself.
 
And now 12 hours later I'm negative. Bizzare.
 
Masks aren't going to solve that, lockdowns are only thing that ever brought cases right down. With ICU numbers holding relatively low they won't go back to this, there'd be uproar.

Correct. They might reintroduce masks in shops etc to pacify the unions (even though it will make feck all difference) but nothing more substantial.
 
Meanwhile in China, Omicron is just getting started. Meanwhile vaccination rates amongst the most vulnerable age groups (and in particular the 80+) are still disastrously low.

 
Meanwhile in China, Omicron is just getting started. Meanwhile vaccination rates amongst the most vulnerable age groups (and in particular the 80+) are still disastrously low.



I remember @hmchan saying that the poor vaccine uptake amongst the elderly in Hong Kong was in large part down to anti-American fuelled Pfizer vaccine scepticism. I wonder what’s behind the poor uptake in China?
 
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Masks aren't going to solve that, lockdowns are only thing that ever brought cases right down. With ICU numbers holding relatively low they won't go back to this, there'd be uproar.
They won't, and nobody but the HSE is clamouring for it, which is my point, cause I said months ago they'd use any surge in Covid to try cover their arses.

As Donnelly said, the only thing that would solve this is much tight restrictions again which is a complete no-no.

Besides, isn't hundreds of thousands of people a week getting such a mild variant (and ICU numbers remaining very low) a really good thing? let it spread, I say!
 
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Besides, isn't hundreds of thousands of people a week getting such a mild variant (and ICU numbers remaining very low) a really good thing? let it spread, I say!
Thats only the reported cases sure.
 
Yeah medical talking heads on full speed today in Ireland.
I also hold the media responsible. Any time there's any mention of a surge in cases or higher hospital numbers it's straight to the frontpage. Even that RTE article is completely misleading because the headline implies Donnelly wants more restrictions when he doesn't. It's been a massve cash cow for them all for the last few years and they love the scaremongering.
 
I also hold the media responsible. Any time there's any mention of a surge in cases or higher hospital numbers it's straight to the frontpage. Even that RTE article is completely misleading because the headline implies Donnelly wants more restrictions when he doesn't. It's been a massve cash cow for them all for the last few years and they love the scaremongering.
True enough. Anything divisive is money. Even amongst people I'd consider reasonable there's still a lot of covid fear but like, this is it, this is the best it's going to be for now. And any burst in numbers drives that fear on one side, and the talk of restrictions drives the other side. While we all sit in the middle with a pint.

I don’t have the gif of you dancing on my phone but I’ll be sure to recreate it at your funeral
Oh god.
 
They won't, and nobody but the HSE is clamouring for it, which is my point, cause I said months ago they'd use any surge in Covid to try cover their arses.

As Donnelly said, the only thing that would solve this is much tight restrictions again which is a complete no-no.

Besides, isn't hundreds of thousands of people a week getting such a mild variant (and ICU numbers remaining very low) a really good thing? let it spread, I say!

That’s basically the logic NPHET used when they got rid of all restrictions. And it’s working well so far. It does cause massive headaches in hospitals, though, where covid positive patients have to be isolated even if they’re not very sick (from covid). Not sure how we solve it. Masks will do feck all. BA2 waves seem to be peaking and starting to decline in countries that still do rigorous testing (i.e. not us!) so it might sort itself out in another few weeks anyway.
 
At least tell the people it’s mandatory to wear masks on public transport and in shops

Literally pissing in the wind. The amount of people picking up covid on the bus or in the shops is completely insignificant compared to all the other ways it’s being passed around. And the sort of masks most people used to wear in shops and on buses are basically useless at stopping transmission of omicron anyway.
 
Literally pissing in the wind. The amount of people picking up covid on the bus or in the shops is completely insignificant compared to all the other ways it’s being passed around. And the sort of masks most people used to wear in shops and on buses are basically useless at stopping transmission of omicron anyway.
I’d rather have something, ‘it’s better than nothing when people are coughing and sneezing round you. It’s literally logic. But i know that you’ve had your fill of masks (you said so in another post) so I’m probably trying to discuss something you’ve had your fill off now!

and don’t start me on schools because apparently covid doesn’t pass round schools or so we used to be told repeatedly. Since the mask mandate has been dropped, covid has gone rampant through the schools. Literally every glass has had at least 1 case in them for weeks, half the teachers out too
 
Got grief for wearing a mask in Sainsbury's. Some very far gone bloke telling me I'm normalising vaccines that are controlling us. Couple people who weren't masked came up after to say to me I handled it well and that it's none of his business, which I appreciated cause I am a bit worried about how unusual I am in still wearing one and it's comforting to have some folks who don't themselves be nice about me choosing to.
It was quite frequent here even when masks were mandatory. Now that the mandate was lifted yesterday I am expecting to hear this on a regular basis whenever I wear a mask anywhere.

I actually stopped caring about people not wearing them a while ago but would just want to be left alone for wearing one. It’s nobody’s business but mine.
 
I’d rather have something, ‘it’s better than nothing when people are coughing and sneezing round you. It’s literally logic. But i know that you’ve had your fill of masks (you said so in another post) so I’m probably trying to discuss something you’ve had your fill off now!

and don’t start me on schools because apparently covid doesn’t pass round schools or so we used to be told repeatedly. Since the mask mandate has been dropped, covid has gone rampant through the schools. Literally every glass has had at least 1 case in them for weeks, half the teachers out too
Oh you've done it now. Pogue will be round to give you a paddlin'.
 
I’d rather have something, ‘it’s better than nothing when people are coughing and sneezing round you. It’s literally logic. But i know that you’ve had your fill of masks (you said so in another post) so I’m probably trying to discuss something you’ve had your fill off now!

and don’t start me on schools because apparently covid doesn’t pass round schools or so we used to be told repeatedly. Since the mask mandate has been dropped, covid has gone rampant through the schools. Literally every glass has had at least 1 case in them for weeks, half the teachers out too

a) You were never told that.
b) Covid is rife in schools when covid is rife everywhere else.

b) is why the calls to close schools longer than we did never made any sense. It’s not like the kids just disappear when schools are closed. They’re in and out of each others houses. Doing what kids do. The only way to take them out of the loop was when we had restrictions on visiting other people’s houses. But that was an extreme measure that should be an absolute last resort.

As it stands, we’ve decided to let everyone have as normal a life as possible because this latest variant is relatively benign in a highly vaccinated population. Making the most of advantage we’ve given ourselves by the fantastic vaccine take-up. Which is the correct decision but will inevitably see very high case numbers, especially in ages that do the most socialising (kids and young adults)

There you go, @Massive Spanner. Doing God’s work.
 
Oh and the one point I forgot to add is that “since the mask mandate dropped” is a red herring because we know what’s really driving this latest surge is a new much more transmissible variant, BA2. Hence we’ve seen an identical surge in most other European countries. Including those with much stricter rules around masks.
 
Still struggling after officially 7 days now from first symptoms.

Still struggling with dizziness. Sitting up for say 30 mins or more is a problem, so that's been a real pain.

My sore throat finally seems to have gone this morning after appearing last Tuesday morning, but chest and cough is worse.

Had all my jabs, god know's how it would be if i hadn't had any.

This one is spreading very quickly (AB.2) and my household have now got also
 
At this point, I'm thinking of covid like it's chickenpox. There's no escaping it. It's everywhere. This is the new normal we have to live with.

Kids get it relatively mild - but catching it should set them up for longer term immunity.

Adults get it more severe - but they should already have sufficient protection against it. On the off chance an adult doesn't have sufficient protection, they might need to get medical treatment
 
At this point, I'm thinking of covid like it's chickenpox. There's no escaping it. It's everywhere. This is the new normal we have to live with.

Kids get it relatively mild - but catching it should set them up for longer term immunity.

Adults get it more severe - but they should already have sufficient protection against it. On the off chance an adult doesn't have sufficient protection, they might need to get medical treatment
Is any of this true or wild guesses? I’ve had it 3 times and sufficient protection seems to run out at 3 months
 
Is any of this true or wild guesses? I’ve had it 3 times and sufficient protection seems to run out at 3 months
I think maybe sufficient protection means that you get it but don't require medical attention.