That was always going to be the case one day sadly. Seems like the UK is determined to be the first to officially "beat" covid
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That was always going to be the case one day sadly. Seems like the UK is determined to be the first to officially "beat" covid
Tories will definitely want to claim that. “Get covid done”
the mentality change is amazing
We’re doing great right now. It’s been an unexpected bonus to stop counting/caring about case numbers. That was a subtle stress to deal with for fecking ages.
It does feel premature to just give the signal not to bother isolating right? I mean they could have at least enforced it'll still be guidance just not a legal requirement.
We were at the aquarium at the weekend and most, including a couple with coughs, were maskless. We were in a minority wearing one but it was very busy and crowded.
We were at the aquarium at the weekend and most, including a couple with coughs, were maskless. We were in a minority wearing one but it was very busy and crowded.
hey guys, could anybody give me some insight when you're not infectious anymore after having contracted corona? Like how many days on average after not having symptoms (and testing negative, obviously) are necessary to wait it out? Thing is, I found contradicting information while googling (even on official sites) and would like to get some input, since people like @Pogue Mahone are very well informed. My wife and my daughter tested positive on monday and already feel better (and tested negative this evening) and I am very eager to stop separating myself from them.
Depends on country, I think in ireland is when you get so many neg lateral flows in a row. 3? (1 each day not all same day)
practising being cnuts
Well, maybe I worded my question not precisely enough, but I meant biological, not legal aspects. As in: after someone contracted corona and is tested negative and doesn't have symptoms anymore, what is the most reasonable and logical timeframe in which I can see said person without contracting the virus myself?
Ah sorry, understand now but no idea
He had replied to a similar question from me with a twitter thread showing graphs of viral load. Based on my memory of that, the viral level has drops after 5, 7, and 10 days, but I think a negative test should be more important than a graph based on averages from other people, and I don't think those graphs separated based on negative/positive tests.
You’d think maybe one lesson that could have been learned from this whole thing is to stay off when you’re ill? Self isolation when you have anything should be a given. Capitalism says NO.
If they’re testing negative and feeling better then your chance of catching anything off them is fairly trivial.
Ultimately the decision depends on your own perception of risk and consequences of getting infected. If you’re extremely clinically vulnerable then you might want to be more careful. If you’re young/healthy and vaccinated/boosted then there’s a case to be made for not separating from them in the first place.
thanks anyways!
Alright.
Thanks! Well, I am selfemployed, which is why getting corona and risking shutting down the business for a week would be absolutely catastrophic, so I decided to play it safe. I am triple vaccinated, 32 years old and have no known underlying health issues at this moment. I guess I will wait till they test negative tomorrow and then proceed with business as usual.
Thank you guys for your input.
No cold, no flu and no sniffles for 2 years. Such a contrast from the last quarter of 2019 when I was off several times sick. Beginning of 2020 too until office closed. No office, no people, no contact. Its that simple to beat any 'catchy' illness
Cracking, thanks Jo.
Spot the magic trick in the graph 
Two years this has lasted now, I'm ready for it to end, I'm sure most of us are.
Norway and Denmark is open, no trouble. The health departementets are saying its not a public threat anymore. And by the looks of things they're right. Most people hospitalized are un-vaxxed and the ICU hospitalizations are down. Omicron is a mild flu if vaccinated.
Countries needs too open up and let the world continue
While I don't disagree that highly vaccinated countries should gradually open up Omicron is not necessarily a mild flu if you are vaccinated. In fact everyone I know who has had it has had significant symptoms even when vaccinated/triple vaccinated. Nobody hospitalised who was triple vaxxed but still a very unpleasant experience. Of course there could be people who had mild or asymptomatic infections and didn't know.
Everybody i know has had very light symptoms. Including myself. If this was 2018 I would've gone to work without problems. 1 Pfizer 1 Moderna.
These are all Omicron at a time few had had a third shot While none were even close to hospitalised all needed 2-10 days off work. Ages from early/mid 30s to early 50's.
If we’re going to restrict people’s freedom because of “very unpleasant experiences” then we’re fecked for eternity. Then we have to lock down every time the flu comes around because that can make people feel shitty.
Almost all restrictions gone here in Sweden now too. Just waiting for them to not require us to isolate when symptomatic. I‘ve got it now for the second time but just have a sore throat (just like last time in June 2020). I’ve had to stay home and take a test three times in the last month though and every negative test was annoying because I knew I was going to get it at some point due to the sheer inevitability of it.
From today in Italy no more masks outdoors.
We have been in a rolling 'state of emergency' since the start, with it getting extended every few months, that allows for all the rules and restrictions to be imposed. It expires at the end of March and its looking more and more like it wont be extended this time which will mean the end of all rules here.
We have been in a rolling 'state of emergency' since the start, with it getting extended every few months, that allows for all the rules and restrictions to be imposed. It expires at the end of March and its looking more and more like it wont be extended this time which will mean the end of all rules here.
To be fair that's similar to illnesses that we've had for years with flu, bad colds, tonsillitis etc and we don't put restrictions up for those. We need to keep a close eye on it and keep vaccinating if that's found to be necessary to keep mortality and hospitalisation down, but it does seem that with Omicron we've been very lucky and it may be the right time to open now based on what we're seeing in the UK at least.
If they weren’t hospitalised then their illness was, by definition, mild.
As anyone who’s ever had man flu knows there are tonnes of viruses knocking round since forever that make you feel like a dead man walking. So long as they don’t put you in ICU or hospital then they shouldn’t require restrictions on how we live our life.
“Bad flu” nonsense from early in the pandemic coming closer and closer to reality. Of course, it’s worth remembering that even OG flu kills a hell of a lot of people every year. And makes you feel absolutely fecking dreadful when you catch it.
I know you know but still feel it worth pointing out that this was achieved because of the vaccines (and maybe less deadly variants), not because those people were correct 2 years ago.
Yup. I was careful to use the word “nonsense”.
We’re actually at an interesting stage of the pandemic where the most irrational opinions are those who are too scared of the virus rather than those who aren’t scared enough. A complete reversal from where we’ve been for most of the last two years.
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This was always going to be a problem I think. We induced a lot of anxiety into everyday life as a way of dealing with the situation and the brain tends to normalise fears in a way that can be hard to adjust back from.
Over time I'm sure it'll be fine but definitely requires time.
Exhibit A
Free Kenwood juicer to anyone who can spot the sneaky trick being played here.
Not to mention the people who have something to gain from keeping the pandemic going. One of our ICU nurses has been very outgoing in media and on Facebook and received some sort of local “citizen of the year” award, and now that almost all restrictions are lifted I still get notifications on Facebook about how she’s commented in this or that page about how the pandemic is NOT OVER AND SHE IS AN ICU NURSE WHO WORKS TIRELESSLY WITH THESE PATIENTS despite our ICU having zero covid patients right now and have had a maximum of two over the past three weeks.
Good thread on what I’m getting at.
There’s a lot of people who gained a lot of status over the course of the pandemic thanks to their area of work/expertise and they don’t want to just fade into the background again. Twitter is chock a block with epidemiologists who won’t be giving up their new followers without a fight!
Right now it seems very much to me that we've reached that herd immunity we talked about at the beginning of the pandemic.
33/33/33 = vaccines/mutations/masks, etc.
I think people are going to struggle to readjust to the old normal.
We all drew partisan battlelines earlier in the pandemic. Now that the situation is shifting, you're going to get a lot of people unwilling to give up what they used to believe was the moral high ground. It's another case of internet polarisation leading to intractable irrationality.
We all drew partisan battlelines earlier in the pandemic. Now that the situation is shifting, you're going to get a lot of people unwilling to give up what they used to believe was the moral high ground. It's another case of internet polarisation leading to intractable irrationality.
Have you all been called back to the office? This is my biggest fear
My mum has tested positive and has heavy cold-like symptoms. She's triple vaxxed so should be ok.
Italy has had a really rough time of it. I still remember the early months when it exploded and Italy was the epicenter.
hey guys, quick update:
My wife and daughter tested positive on monday, we quarantined separately until today, as I also tested positive this evening. Had symptoms starting 2-3 days ago and feeling fine so far.
I'd just like to advise everybody here to be patient when testing negative, yet you're suspecting to be positive. If you had direct contact to someone who tested positive, it's very likely that - considering how infectious omicron is - you'll get it eventually. Keep isolating and testing regularly, don't brush it off. I was told to "calm my tits" basically, when I quarantined for 4 days and worked from home. I am very happy that I did that.
My wife and daughter tested positive on monday, we quarantined separately until today, as I also tested positive this evening. Had symptoms starting 2-3 days ago and feeling fine so far.
I'd just like to advise everybody here to be patient when testing negative, yet you're suspecting to be positive. If you had direct contact to someone who tested positive, it's very likely that - considering how infectious omicron is - you'll get it eventually. Keep isolating and testing regularly, don't brush it off. I was told to "calm my tits" basically, when I quarantined for 4 days and worked from home. I am very happy that I did that.