SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)

I had stopped following this thread but posting this here to show humanity is coming to an end. Look at some of the replies. I have zero faith in humanity, am extremely cynical like that, so this should not surprise me but still.

 
I had stopped following this thread but posting this here to show humanity is coming to an end. Look at some of the replies. I have zero faith in humanity, am extremely cynical like that, so this should not surprise me but still.



I’ve listened to a few of Attia’s podcast and he generally came across as a smart/interesting guy. Shame to see him getting sucked into partisan grifting like this. It really does seem impossible to have any kind of high public profile without nailing your colours to one side or other in the culture war. Depressing.
 
Yesterday after learning of close contact
1pm - positive nose/throat LFT
1:30pm - negative nose only LFT (did this after realising the instructions mention nose only)
2pm - PCR test

Today
PCR test negative
Flu symptoms
Positive - nose/throat LFT

Bit confused what to do:smirk: Anyone else had inconsistencies with throat/nose?
 
Yesterday after learning of close contact
1pm - positive nose/throat LFT
1:30pm - negative nose only LFT (did this after realising the instructions mention nose only)
2pm - PCR test

Today
PCR test negative
Flu symptoms
Positive - nose/throat LFT

Bit confused what to do:smirk: Anyone else had inconsistencies with throat/nose?

Behave as though you have covid. The chance of you not having covid is small enough that it doesn’t matter. Plus the way you should behave with covid is now more or less the same as the way you should behave with any other similar illness.
 
Presume this is a behavioural thing. People that socialise a lot, people that work in high contact industries etc.
Interesting finding regarding the reinfection. Funnily, my family have been all boosted just a short while ago and they all succumbed to Covid recently (thankfully they’re now recovered), and despite sharing everything with then as normal it didn’t get to me, only difference being I had covid in May (in between my two doses).
 
Yesterday after learning of close contact
1pm - positive nose/throat LFT
1:30pm - negative nose only LFT (did this after realising the instructions mention nose only)
2pm - PCR test

Today
PCR test negative
Flu symptoms
Positive - nose/throat LFT

Bit confused what to do:smirk: Anyone else had inconsistencies with throat/nose?

Similar experience to me. I was doing normal nasal LFTs for a few days when my wife caught it and they were all negative. I've read in a few places that Omicron often shows up in the throat well before it gets to the nose, if it makes it there at all, so when I started to feel a bit off so I stuck the swab down my throat too. Positive.
 
I’ve listened to a few of Attia’s podcast and he generally came across as a smart/interesting guy. Shame to see him getting sucked into partisan grifting like this. It really does seem impossible to have any kind of high public profile without nailing your colours to one side or other in the culture war. Depressing.

I don't know Atria but hard to believe a smart physician is talking like that.

In fact any physician who would support that take by default is not smart. Unless of course you are grifting.
 
My mum tested positive last Saturday morning (21st), still testing positive as of this morning on LF. Other than keeping herself in her room for most of the 2 days she hasn't really been isolating from me in the house yet I've tested negative the whole time and hopefully still will ..... touch wood.

I tested positive on an LFT yesterday after waking up and feeling ill. Symptoms yesterday were a dry throat and chest, slight cough, blocked nose, head ache, body aches and shivers. Fell asleep on the sofa at 8pm last night, woke 3 hours later and felt much better.
Today, apart from an occasional cough, I feel fine. Still getting a very strong positive on LFTs which is to be expected.

My husband and two adult sons, one of whom is a teacher and has 9 kids in his tutor group off with it, have so far all tested negative. I’d have been infectious before the symptoms started and less than 12 hours before I tested we all sat around the table and ate the dinner I’d cooked.

I go the least places yet I’m the first of the family to get this.
 
I recovered from COVID three weeks back. Do I still need to isolate if I was in close contact with someone who has tested positive? From what I understand, my recent immunity should protect me. But I'm not sure if I can still spread it to others?
 
my 6 year old tested positive this morning

He had a temperature at 8am and was a bit drowsy.

So I gave him calpol - did the antigen and its positive

He was back to himself at 9am - now hes down stairs playing pirates swinging out of the furniture singing "celebrate good times" as he is off school!!
Keeps eating! Not a sign of illness

Unreal
 
I recovered from COVID three weeks back. Do I still need to isolate if I was in close contact with someone who has tested positive? From what I understand, my recent immunity should protect me. But I'm not sure if I can still spread it to others?
It depends where you are. If you’re in the UK and fully vaccinated then you don’t have to isolate but you need to test with a lateral flow test daily for at least seven days. There’s nothing in the guidance about natural immunity.

Interestingly my husband started with symptoms last night (sore throat and headache) so did a test with a nasal swab (we only have tests requiring nasal swabs now) which was negative. He felt worse this morning so tested again. Still negative. It didn’t seem right seeing as I’m positive so he tested again but this time he swabbed his throat rather than his nose and got an immediate strong positive.
Had he not done that he’d have written it off as just a cold and gone into work.
 
my 6 year old tested positive this morning

He had a temperature at 8am and was a bit drowsy.

So I gave him calpol - did the antigen and its positive

He was back to himself at 9am - now hes down stairs playing pirates swinging out of the furniture singing "celebrate good times" as he is off school!!
Keeps eating! Not a sign of illness

Unreal

Obviously it wasn't covid, but knowing that I was avoiding school because of fever cured me so many times :lol:
 
:lol:

My boy does have it but he's not one bit sick.
Barring waking up with a mild temperature last Friday he's been very energetic and playful. The usual. We play Royal Rumble wrestling and he beat the shit our of me last night. No stopping him.

Going to test ourselves again now
 
Slightly annoyed still about upcoming U-turn on mandatory NHS staff vaccinations because the mainstream press will continue to platform the covid/vaccine skeptics which might hinder booster programme

But i think they must have done analysis on workplace needs and with shortages in maternity health and other places, not wanting any rota gaps won out against the principle of vaccinating.

Sucks because amongst the vaccine hesitant I have seen them cite the belief of "even the doctors and nurses hesitant to get it" with regards to safety which isn't the case vast majority of doctors
 
Slightly annoyed still about upcoming U-turn on mandatory NHS staff vaccinations because the mainstream press will continue to platform the covid/vaccine skeptics which might hinder booster programme

But i think they must have done analysis on workplace needs and with shortages in maternity health and other places, not wanting any rota gaps won out against the principle of vaccinating.

Sucks because amongst the vaccine hesitant I have seen them cite the belief of "even the doctors and nurses hesitant to get it" with regards to safety which isn't the case vast majority of doctors

Is the U-turn confirmed? It is a shame because I think its important for patients. I would not want my life in the hands of somebody who can be easily misled and illogical in an area in which they are supposed to be highly competent.
 
Where are we now with the pandemic?

There's news of a sub-variant but it seems like people just don't really give a shit.

I wonder if we are in the transition towards just living with the pandemic.

No doubt they'll be another variant before the end of the year and it'll be telling if people even care as much as they did about omicron which largely seemed like an inconvenience compared to the previous ones.
 
Where are we now with the pandemic?

There's news of a sub-variant but it seems like people just don't really give a shit.

I wonder if we are in the transition towards just living with the pandemic.

No doubt they'll be another variant before the end of the year and it'll be telling if people even care as much as they did about omicron which largely seemed like an inconvenience compared to the previous ones.

its a massive inconvenience now.
My boy has it and hes not one iota ill - not a bit.
But he has to miss a week of school and stay in. Its madness on the face of it
 
its a massive inconvenience now.
My boy has it and hes not one iota ill - not a bit.
But he has to miss a week of school and stay in. Its madness on the face of it
For society at large its carrying on as normal and when compared to 2020 this feels much more "normal".

On an individual level it's inconvenient to get it but on a societal level people can do most things they were doing pre-pandemic.
 
For society at large its carrying on as normal and when compared to 2020 this feels much more "normal".

On an individual level it's inconvenient to get it but on a societal level people can do most things they were doing pre-pandemic.

last thing is the masks - then we are back to full normal
 
its a massive inconvenience now.
My boy has it and hes not one iota ill - not a bit.
But he has to miss a week of school and stay in. Its madness on the face of it

To be fair, that’s more of a minor - rather than massive - inconvenience. Assuming he doesn’t catch it again this academic year (which is hopefully very unlikely)

If missing a week off school every year or so is the worst we have to put up with then that’s pretty good really.

The next big thing for me is getting rid of masks at school. Little or no upside now we know how easily this is spread but a big imposition in an environment where non-verbal communication is so important.
 
last thing is the masks - then we are back to full normal
I think masks will stay in form even if not mandated. I'm of the belief that European and North American cities will look more like the far-East in winter with many donning a facemask.

It won't be the majority but a significant minority.

As I said before, how much will people care about the next variant?
 
I think masks will stay in form even if not mandated. I'm of the belief that European and North American cities will look more like the far-East in winter with many donning a facemask.

It won't be the majority but a significant minority.

As I said before, how much will people care about the next variant?

Judging from the current state of getting public transport since the Thursday the rules were relaxed in England there basically non existent already.
 
To be fair, that’s more of a minor - rather than massive - inconvenience. Assuming he doesn’t catch it again this academic year (which is hopefully very unlikely)

If missing a week off school every year or so is the worst we have to put up with then that’s pretty good really.

The next big thing for me is getting rid of masks at school. Little or no upside now we know how easily this is spread but a big imposition in an environment where non-verbal communication is so important.

Sure we have come a long way since the start - and if this is it then we can live with it but it seems pointless when its so rampant.
Rules for me as a close contact are to crack on until such a time as I feel any symptom and up to now nothing. My youngest is a huggy child and we have been very close all weekend and so far all my antigens are negative - next one tomorrow morning

agree totally about the masks - my 9 year old is so frustrated
 
I think masks will stay in form even if not mandated. I'm of the belief that European and North American cities will look more like the far-East in winter with many donning a facemask.

It won't be the majority but a significant minority.

As I said before, how much will people care about the next variant?

unless its proved to be a killer strain then its not going to register with anyone
 
I think masks will stay in form even if not mandated. I'm of the belief that European and North American cities will look more like the far-East in winter with many donning a facemask.

It won't be the majority but a significant minority.

As I said before, how much will people care about the next variant?

The de-masking thing is really interesting. At my bouldering gym they said you need to wear masks to check in but no longer need them to climb. That’s been the case for nearly two weeks now and I reckon 90%+ of people still wear masks. I took mine off last week but ended up feeling so self-conscious I put it back on again!

Probably different in the UK though. Mask compliance in Ireland has always been crazy high. So not wearing a mask around other people indoors will feel weird for a while yet.
 
its a massive inconvenience now.
My boy has it and hes not one iota ill - not a bit.
But he has to miss a week of school and stay in. Its madness on the face of it
So you expect the school to look after your son while he has Covid? Not sure what your issue is?
 
So you expect the school to look after your son while he has Covid? Not sure what your issue is?

if you're not sure what my issue is you need to think harder mate.
To get you started - I dont expect the school to do anything.
 
Thanks for not really clarifying. I asked as I wasn't sure.

well you jumped to a conclusion about the school looking after my kid with Covid.

My issue with not being able to send him in is that he is going to miss a week of school having already missed a load of school. He has missed enough and now he is missing more and he's not ill per se. Its my sons education and his wellbeing I am thinking about - he is only 6 and doesnt quite understand why he's not allowed to go out or go to his friends in school even though he is not sick. We are telling him he's "sick" but in his head he isn't, because he isnt.
 
well you jumped to a conclusion about the school looking after my kid with Covid.

My issue with not being able to send him in is that he is going to miss a week of school having already missed a load of school. He has missed enough and now he is missing more and he's not ill per se. Its my sons education and his wellbeing I am thinking about - he is only 6 and doesnt quite understand why he's not allowed to go out or go to his friends in school even though he is not sick. We are telling him he's "sick" but in his head he isn't, because he isnt.

I guess the concern is that whilst he might not be “ill” he could pass on to someone else who could become ill? Dunno, things are gonna have to go back to normal at some point.
 
I guess the concern is that whilst he might not be “ill” he could pass on to someone else who could become ill? Dunno, things are gonna have to go back to normal at some point.

Thats why I am keeping him home, I wouldnt want him to pass it to someone else. I am doing the right thing
 
:lol:

My boy does have it but he's not one bit sick.
Barring waking up with a mild temperature last Friday he's been very energetic and playful. The usual. We play Royal Rumble wrestling and he beat the shit our of me last night. No stopping him.

Going to test ourselves again now

I‘m on Day 7 and in all honesty I’ve had worse colds. The day I tested positive was the worst I felt, since then I’ve just felt like I’m almost over a cold. My husband tested positive two days after me and he’s been pretty ill with it.

I can’t go out yet though as I’m still getting strong positives on lateral flow tests so it looks like I’m stuck in until Friday. I’m so unbelievably bored. With a cold I’d have gone out for a walk and benefitted from some fresh air.
 
I‘m on Day 7 and in all honesty I’ve had worse colds. The day I tested positive was the worst I felt, since then I’ve just felt like I’m almost over a cold. My husband tested positive two days after me and he’s been pretty ill with it.

I can’t go out yet though as I’m still getting strong positives on lateral flow tests so it looks like I’m stuck in until Friday. I’m so unbelievably bored. With a cold I’d have gone out for a walk and benefitted from some fresh air.

You should go out for a walk and get some fresh air. If you don’t spend time indoors with anyone (or get right up in someone’s face outdoors) there’s no harm done.