‘Nocebo effect’: two-thirds of Covid jab reactions not caused by vaccine, study suggests
Not a big surprise.
‘Nocebo effect’: two-thirds of Covid jab reactions not caused by vaccine, study suggests
What are you on about? That’s what it’s called."Nocebo Effect"?
That's awful!
First time I hear that word. I thought it was a dreadful pun. Sorry.What are you on about? That’s what it’s called.
This is much better than I was expecting.
This feels really significant.
I can't find the info, but was your wife tested as well?
I find it incredible people haven't even done lateral flow tests.
When we were going into work I'd do them at least twice a week. When going to big events, or group gatherings, I'd do one then. Seems a pretty selfless thing to do to make sure you're not asymptomatic and spreading it to others.
First time I hear that word. I thought it was a dreadful pun. Sorry.
Can't wait till the masks are gone, my beard will be set freeEverything should be lifted by lunchtime tomorrow if the Irish government had any quick decision capabilities.
Masks will naturally die in the next few weeks regardless of what the guidelines are anyway.
I'm delighted covid passes are being done away with, I was really worried that was going to be some sort of a permanent thing.
Let's get back to living!
I’ve brought back loads of testing kits from the UK if anyone in Sydney is in dire need
I'm good but thanks for the offer and I'll let you know if I ever need any. Fully recovered now?
Never had a test and never had a jab. I had a sore throat a few days ago, perhaps it was Omicron, don't know, don't care. My immune system handled it like it always does.
Is the pandemic coming to an end? Will people who didn't get jabbed still be discriminated against even after the pandemic is over? For how long? Months? Years? Forever? If there is no pandemic do I still need to get the jab? How any jabs? If they bring out a new jab do I still need to take 2 doses of the obsolete jab?
I do agree that we can't keep getting jabbed forever.
It doesn't seem sustainable. Having Covid jabs alongside flu shots annually seems like a likely scenario assuming new variants keep coming up.Why not?
You have a good vaccination rate though so you should be fine.So 2 years of kicking the can down the street is coming to an end soon here in NZ. Omicron has snuck into the community, at this point just a couple of cases which we all have no doubt will take off quickly. the modelling is suggesting anywhere between 1000 to 10,000 case per day, some of it based on what we have seen with our friends in Aussie and also other countries with similar populations. Kids from 6 to 12 are able to be vaccinated if their parents choose and the push to get booster shots rolled out is in full swing. The modelling is also suggesting that we wont get down to 100 to 300 cases per day until about Sept once it kicks in here. People here are ready, fingers crossed our hospital system is. Sadly 30 or so years of various govts have left our health system lacking, we are by most estimates 2 hospitals short (which is a lot for a small country like ours) so this coming year is really going to stress our system.
It doesn't seem sustainable. Having Covid jabs alongside flu shots annually seems like a likely scenario assuming new variants keep coming up.
You have a good vaccination rate though so you should be fine.
"The advice does suggest that mask-wearing, isolation for symptomatic cases, and Covid passes for international travel will remain in place "most restrictions is basically where we were before.
It’s not enough. All restrictions should be removed. We will never be in a better position than we are right now. Without an end to restrictions we risk a perennial lifecycle of them adding them yearly whenever our shite health service comes under pressure.
That's NPHET's advice, not necessarily what the government will do straight away. We paid the price last summer for their stupidly slow easing of restrictions, let's hope it's not the same now. We're in an amazing position now, just open everything up. I agree masks aren't a big deal, by the way, no problem wearing them in shops etc. for the foreseeable."The advice does suggest that mask-wearing, isolation for symptomatic cases, and Covid passes for international travel will remain in place "
We've no say on passes for international travel, we're falling in line with the EU on that. Symptomatic cases isolating is how any virus should be handled anyway, but we all love a pint too much.
So it comes down to masks, are they really that big of a deal to people? Honestly don't think I'd have any issue come flu/cold season being asked to mask up for a few month over Christmas.
Ah I get ya, misunderstood your angle. Yeah, up to the gov now to just say, lets go for it.That's NPHET's advice, not necessarily what the government will do straight away. We paid the price last summer for their stupidly slow easing of restrictions, let's hope it's not the same now. We're in an amazing position now, just open everything up. I agree masks aren't a big deal, by the way, no problem wearing them in shops etc. for the foreseeable.
The journos seem a bit more confident today than yesterday that they'll go for a sweeping end to restrictions rather than the usual phased approach, though, which is good. https://www.rte.ie/news/2022/0121/1274965-covid-restrictions/
You say kicking the can down the street, but in reality what you've done is manage to avoid the nastiest variants of the virus. If your population all get omicron while being heavily vaccinated, you're going to see far better outcomes than the rest of the world, probably.So 2 years of kicking the can down the street is coming to an end soon here in NZ. Omicron has snuck into the community, at this point just a couple of cases which we all have no doubt will take off quickly. the modelling is suggesting anywhere between 1000 to 10,000 case per day, some of it based on what we have seen with our friends in Aussie and also other countries with similar populations. Kids from 6 to 12 are able to be vaccinated if their parents choose and the push to get booster shots rolled out is in full swing. The modelling is also suggesting that we wont get down to 100 to 300 cases per day until about Sept once it kicks in here. People here are ready, fingers crossed our hospital system is. Sadly 30 or so years of various govts have left our health system lacking, we are by most estimates 2 hospitals short (which is a lot for a small country like ours) so this coming year is really going to stress our system.
I think you're right.You say kicking the can down the street, but in reality what you've done is manage to avoid the nastiest variants of the virus. If your population all get omicron while being heavily vaccinated, you're going to see far better outcomes than the rest of the world, probably.
I would hope that people use a bit of sense when they are travelling on public transport and have a cold/cough that they use them then. That would be a good thing to come out off it. A bit of respect for othersHow long do people think we will have to wear masks? Will they stay forever given this will always be around like the flu.
It's a choice every country will have to go through. I think we're going to see debate raging across Europe over the next few months on vaccine passports and vaccine mandates in particular. I hope we'll see some of the political heat come out of that as time goes on, it's easy for the science and the public health message to drown in the rhetoric.That's NPHET's advice, not necessarily what the government will do straight away. We paid the price last summer for their stupidly slow easing of restrictions, let's hope it's not the same now. We're in an amazing position now, just open everything up. I agree masks aren't a big deal, by the way, no problem wearing them in shops etc. for the foreseeable.
The journos seem a bit more confident today than yesterday that they'll go for a sweeping end to restrictions rather than the usual phased approach, though, which is good. https://www.rte.ie/news/2022/0121/1274965-covid-restrictions/
I would hope that people use a bit of sense when they are travelling on public transport and have a cold/cough that they use them then. That would be a good thing to come out off it. A bit of respect for others
Yeah all very good points.It's a choice every country will have to go through. I think we're going to see debate raging across Europe over the next few months on vaccine passports and vaccine mandates in particular. I hope we'll see some of the political heat come out of that as time goes on, it's easy for the science and the public health message to drown in the rhetoric.
Fortunately Ireland has very high vaccination rates, particularly in the older and more vulnerable groups. I think this is the phase where it's going to be about people looking at their own risks and those around them, and deciding if that means it's back to business as usual for them. Fingers crossed we make the right choices for ourselves and each other.
Sadly I think you’re right. Back to people sneezing and coughing on the back of my head on bussesNo chance of that happening unfortunately. It's such an obvious benefit but it just doesn't fit in with the Western mind frame.
Yeah it's a pain in the hole with glasses, people without them just don't know our pain. Thankfully my eyesight isn't too bad so I can cope without the glasses on for the most part but feck knows how anyone who needs to keep them on can see a thing!Overall I'd say I'm fairly gucci with masking up, definitely on public transport anyway.
And this is as someone who wears glasses and looks like a complete dweeb every time I enter a building and my glassies fog up.
If you're a non-glasses wearing person then I can't imagine what your issue would be at all.
I would hope that people use a bit of sense when they are travelling on public transport and have a cold/cough that they use them then. That would be a good thing to come out off it. A bit of respect for others
Good man.I pretty much intend wearing mine for a good while.
I started wearing new Man Utd masks I got for Christmas. Unfortunately they steam up more than the ones I used to wear. I’m at the stage now where I need to wear my glasses all the time, my eyesight is awfulYeah it's a pain in the hole with glasses, people without them just don't know our pain. Thankfully my eyesight isn't too bad so I can cope without the glasses on for the most part but feck knows how anyone who needs to keep them on can see a thing!
Good man.
I use a silicon "cage" under my masks. At first it was a bit annoying but now I am used to it I hate using a mask without it. I still get some fogging rarely from time to time but its easily dealt with. This sort of thing. https://www.amazon.com/Silicone-Homemade-Comfortable-Breathing-Washable/dp/B08931ZQZCI started wearing new Man Utd masks I got for Christmas. Unfortunately they steam up more than the ones I used to wear. I’m at the stage now where I need to wear my glasses all the time, my eyesight is awful
I started wearing new Man Utd masks I got for Christmas. Unfortunately they steam up more than the ones I used to wear. I’m at the stage now where I need to wear my glasses all the time, my eyesight is awful