Tested positive today.
just in time for Santa ffs
just in time for Santa ffs
SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
- Thread starter Don't Kill Bill
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I'm wondering if it is spreading far more variably than previous variants due to it being so infectious because masks, distancing and boosters are on average more common with older people and mass social events, often without masks, distancing or boosters is essentially a younger person's activity.
I know we have stopped going to most pubs and only use ones where we can sit outside and are tending more towards staying at home than we were a few weeks ago even though we got a third shot a week ago.
Thank you @subotai
Ages since I posted. Barely read news about Covid anymore (except for the local stuff as my work requires) and apart from the very beggining of the pandemic I too have relied mostly on this thread to keep up with it on a global level.
Ages since I posted. Barely read news about Covid anymore (except for the local stuff as my work requires) and apart from the very beggining of the pandemic I too have relied mostly on this thread to keep up with it on a global level.
Omicron now the dominant variant in the USA, gone 3% to 73% of covid cases in a week.
according to Bloomberg update
according to Bloomberg update
Oh I get you. Understood completely.
Astonishing indeed...
Interesting article extract about Gauteng's flattening:
What do you think it is?
The options that I have been thinking about — there’s five of them. They’re non mutually exclusive. So to go through …
First, there’s the simple limit to testing capacity. As things increase, our testing capacity doesn’t increase as fast, and so we’re missing more and more cases. That can give you a distorted picture — it could look like a plateau in Gauteng, but you could imagine it’s really a much higher crest.
Like the top of a mountain has been chopped off by bad testing.
I also bet we can expect a lot more underreporting of Omicron, compared to previous wave, because it’s more mild, either through existing immunity or through actual reduction of intrinsic severity. And if, on average, you’ve reduced the severity of cases, there’d be a lot of people that don’t bother to come to the hospital or to get tested. And so as a rough guess, you might go from like one in ten cases reported in South Africa to one in 20 or even one in 30 cases — that wouldn’t seem unreasonable to me. And that makes it so that at the same caseload of Delta versus Omicron you could actually have three times as many infections with Omicron.
We could also have a change in generation interval. If we have Omicron kind of doubling at this very fast two- or three-day rate, you don’t actually have to have Rt be three. You could have actually just made the whole thing faster without having the number of secondary
infections being much higher. And we don’t have no way of knowing that at this moment.
The last two are, it might not be that the entire population is susceptible to Omicron. Maybe half the population is susceptible. And then, finally, I think there’s a network effect — that as things kind of percolate through the community, you can imagine those transmission chains circling back on themselves and hitting someone that has already been exposed.
Got the booster last night. Arm is sore but so far not feeling any other effects.
Is it possible the omicron is the (current) evolutionary winning strain because it’s so successful in spreading amongst the young? Previous strains increasingly came up against walls of vaccination or unhelpful social behaviours more likely practiced by older generations.
The fact it MIGHT end up in less hospitalisation and evade the vaccines to some degree might be a good thing if it helps keep this strain alive at low levels in the community negating any evolutionary to evolve further
The fact it MIGHT end up in less hospitalisation and evade the vaccines to some degree might be a good thing if it helps keep this strain alive at low levels in the community negating any evolutionary to evolve further
Isn’t it just that this is what is causing it to be spread mainly amongst the young?
Definitely not the case in London. Now or ever. It’s seething with middle aged folk acting like teenagers.
Maybe but is there something aside from vaccines or social behaviours that makes young people more susceptible? Maybe because it’s a milder, cold-like virus stronger younger immune systems don’t attack it as virulently as they would/have stronger strains allowing it to survive more and spread so fast initially
Yup, completely.
Really? How embarrasing for them. Here the high density mass events have a huge skew to the under 30's in the run up to Christmas. Music events vary more but they seem to be being mostly cancelled and/or postponed. Our Christmas party also got cancelled although I wasn't going in any case. Too big a risk especially as we are being very careful not to expose our son to covid while he is back. Glad we did after a covid outbreak in his squad that he seems to have dodged.
He's already back with you? That's great news, how long is it since you last saw him? I bet that was an emotional reunion. I hope you have a lovely Christmas together.
He got back on the 13th after 101 weeks away. Not that we were counting
Amazingly we all managed not to blub but it was close although I am tearing up slightly now for some reason. Loving having him home although low key so far as he is in a training camp for the national team until Christmas Eve, then flies back to Uni on the 3rd of Jan.
That's great, I'm really happy for you guys. It must have been a very hard couple of years. Enjoy.He got back on the 13th after 101 weeks away. Not that we were counting
Amazingly we all managed not to blub but it was close. Loving having him home although low key so far as he is in a training camp for the national team until Christmas Eve, then flies back to Uni on the 3rd of Jan.
It was in many ways, covid, work and him being away. However, he was so good at staying in touch and was also having a great time, despite the global shit show, that it was bearable. If we hadn't got him home this Christmas it would have been very hard though, and we weren't convinced that we would see him until he was in the air on the final flight.
Get well soon
I wouldn't worry, Santa himself will be swimming in Omicron by the weekend.
Thanks @subotai - I'm glad we're doing something useful in here. Cheers for passing the message on @Pexbo@Pogue Mahone
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A nice message from a newbie. I particularly like how they appended my name to the bottom of the list before they asked me to pass it on.Nice words all the same which I’m pleased to pass on.
Good Twitter thread on omicron in SA. Makes a point I don’t think I’ve seen on here. The huge number of excess deaths they’ve already experienced. If you live in South Africa and you’re someone who is likely to be put in intensive care by covid, chances are you’re already dead
So the issue might not be about immunity, so much as survivorship bias. The most vulnerable have already been taken out by previous waves.
Good Twitter thread on omicron in SA. Makes a point I don’t think I’ve seen on here. The huge number of excess deaths they’ve already experienced. If you live in South Africa and you’re someone who is likely to be put in intensive care by covid, chances are you’re already dead
So the issue might not be about immunity, so much as survivorship bias. The most vulnerable have already been taken out by previous waves.
Seasons greetings to you too Pogue
Happy Solstice!
I know EIGHT people in my close circle that currently have it. During the height of both Alpha and Delta I knew one/two at any one time. Boris might not be locking us down for Christmas but it seems a large portion of the country are gonna be in isolation anyway!
My mum got turned away from the hospital for her last chemotherapy session because she has a temperature of 38 and a slight cough. She had a PCR test yesterday but the results haven't got back to the hospital yet (FFS). Her treatment has been put on hold until at least next week. I understood that the main symptoms of delta and Omicron for fully vaxxed (and boosted) weren't a temperature or a slight cough. If she's got it it's going to be a fecking disaster. feck sake . We are now arranging for us all to have a PCR and I did a lateral flow test earlier today which came back negative.
. We are now arranging for us all to have a PCR and I did a lateral flow test earlier today which came back negative.So after 3-4 days last week of feeling absolute shite, since Thursday we have both felt alright. Headaches occur every couple of hours and still coughing a little bit and a bit of a cold but both taken a lateral flow test now and we are negative. So since our positive PCR on the 13th we had 3-4 days of feeling incredibly rough and then back to relative normality. Both in our late 20s.
Boris has to make decisions today re Sporting events and post Christmas action if 28th is a certain date for restrictions.
Chancellor to announce some support measures today perhaps also?
Chancellor to announce some support measures today perhaps also?
Just has
The continual way this virus kicks us in the balls just as we’ve cracked it would be impressive if it wasn’t so fecking tragic.
One off grants of 6k to eligible businesses
How Is that going to help them survive exactly?
Yep, I've just been reading the same report. We were so close...
Of course we don't yet know what the numbers are for omicron serious cases. Still hopeful for now
I simply started that some level of support has been announced.
Shit, that's horrible. Sorry to hear it, mate.My mum got turned away from the hospital for her last chemotherapy session because she has a temperature of 38 and a slight cough. She had a PCR test yesterday but the results haven't got back to the hospital yet (FFS). Her treatment has been put on hold until at least next week. I understood that the main symptoms of delta and Omicron for fully vaxxed (and boosted) weren't a temperature or a slight cough. If she's got it it's going to be a fecking disaster. feck sake
That sucks, very similar experience here with my dad and a hospital admission. They wouldn't treat him til a PCR test came back despite the pain he was in - the PCR test took over 24 hours - him on a bed in the hallway overnight, at 82 years old. Just ridiculous. Really need to revisit some of those policies to weigh the patient health imo.My mum got turned away from the hospital for her last chemotherapy session because she has a temperature of 38 and a slight cough. She had a PCR test yesterday but the results haven't got back to the hospital yet (FFS). Her treatment has been put on hold until at least next week. I understood that the main symptoms of delta and Omicron for fully vaxxed (and boosted) weren't a temperature or a slight cough. If she's got it it's going to be a fecking disaster. feck sake
It's a shitshow in NYC. I tested positive (asymptomatic) and know six people who are positive now. The problem is it's difficult to get a test, rapid or PCR. I waited 5 hours to get tested on Sunday. The home testing kits sell out first thing in the morning at every pharmacy. Businesses like bars and restaurants are starting to voluntariliy close down. Seemed to happen almost overnight.
Following on from this:
My Mum got a call from the hospital and they said her CT scans she had on Saturday have shown that she has a blood clot in her lung. This would explain the coughing but she also has a fever. I hope to God we aren't dealing with covid and this blood clot at the same time.
My mum got turned away from the hospital for her last chemotherapy session because she has a temperature of 38 and a slight cough. She had a PCR test yesterday but the results haven't got back to the hospital yet (FFS). Her treatment has been put on hold until at least next week. I understood that the main symptoms of delta and Omicron for fully vaxxed (and boosted) weren't a temperature or a slight cough. If she's got it it's going to be a fecking disaster. feck sake
My Mum got a call from the hospital and they said her CT scans she had on Saturday have shown that she has a blood clot in her lung. This would explain the coughing but she also has a fever. I hope to God we aren't dealing with covid and this blood clot at the same time.
My thoughts are with you mate, my wife has just come out of hospital after surgery and thankfully is on the mend now but having a family member needing hospital care at the moment is a terrible worry . I hope everything turns out ok for you.
Must be a really worrying time for you all. Thinking of you mate.