Definitely - the upside to this is the kick up the ass it gives the gov and public to go and get boosted
SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
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Definitely - the upside to this is the kick up the ass it gives the gov and public to go and get boosted
I don't think this helps their cause, if the aim is to get people to take it seriously. Obviously people will take it out of context and declare that"10 isn't very many out of a population of 68 million #GBNews"
You have got headline from the health secretary saying 200k people a day have it then a statement above saying 10 people are in hospital add into that you can trust anything coming out of Boris and co's mouth and i think the booster uptake will be lower then any previous vaccination attempt there will be a surge at the beginning but not so sure it will keep up.
Can't even blame people either the government has been that bad its not surprising.
To be fair to the government (...yeah, I really said that) i think trying to frighten the horses with 200K a day figure is probably the right move even if it's a gross exaggeration. Problem is Boris should not be in the job. It's like Freddy Krueger fronting a campaign to raise awareness of stranger danger targeted towards kids.
We'll know a lot about how it affects under 60s this week - SA data is building up fast for this group. Combined with data coming out of the UK and Denmark we should get some really strong data on cases in those age groups. Almost all of it will be about vaxxed/previously infected people though.
It will be much harder to get trustworthy data on the unvaxxed/not previously infected because it's hard to know if someone has been infected previously unless they actually recorded a positive test (most infections aren't recorded)
It won't be until we hear how it affects the over 60s and those with other risk factors that we know how much trouble we're really in. A couple of weeks for that - unless we start getting superspreader events at parties with lots of oldies - which would be a deeply unethical experiment to run
It won't be until we hear how it affects the over 60s and those with other risk factors that we know how much trouble we're really in. A couple of weeks for that - unless we start getting superspreader events at parties with lots of oldies - which would be a deeply unethical experiment to run
Calling all cruise ships…
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Well who’s told their kids yet that Santa can’t socially distance and is mixing with too many households so he won’t be coming down our chimney?
Scrooge?
Anyway I've seen him on the Tesco's ad and he's got a vaccine pass. I'm sure JvT can get him a booster booking as well, he got him sorted last year.
Haha I was just joking but you never know around here
Getting boosted tomorrow. Pfiz-her?! I barely know her!
Have the daily deaths went back to normal levels? (Before covid) or are they still above previous years? Haven't seen one of those graphs for donkeys.
BBC has it I think on that Covid cases by area page.
Edit: they do:https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-51768274
There is still deaths above normal, and excess deaths above that too.
Has anyone managed to book a booster ? The website has been fecked since yesterday, queue for like 10 minutes and then it just times out.
Yes. I did it through my GP though. I'd recommend that.
Took me a couple of hours this morning Try on a laptop rather than phone and clear your internet history.
Wife and I both tested positive on the PCR. Isolation finishes 23 December Midnight. Fingers crossed we can still get home at Xmas.
There are loads of walk-in sites. You can find them on the NHS website.
Got Raab lying about the numbers in hospital this morning with omicron said 250 the reality is 10.
https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19...ong-twice-on-morning-broadcast-round-12495367
https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19...ong-twice-on-morning-broadcast-round-12495367
Sorry bud... Can one be told which variant it is? Or do scientists just do spot checks?
He lies about everything.
Not sure, it didn’t tell us on our result text.
They can't check every case at the moment. They've got a version of the PCR test that has a quirk in its operation that means it can usually spot the difference between Omicron and Delta - but that's just used to build up a statistical picture for incidence levels, by finding probables.
Actual sequencing is more limited again, and takes longer, so again that's a sampling thing, but I think all hospital cases are being sequenced.
As of Saturday, around 20% of UK cases were Omicron. In London it's thought that Omicron now accounts for maybe 80% of cases. It's assumed Omicron will be the majority of new cases across the country by the end of the week.
Not surprisingly it's London where cases in general have grown fastest in the past week or two, and most of that growth is in the 20-40 group. Other age groups, the cases are still roughly flat.
You're really friggen awesome, you know that?
First real world evidence of vaccine (Pfizer) efficacy from SA.
tl;dr Fairly steep drop off in protection vs infection. Moderate reduction in protection vs hospitalisation.
Also a 29% reduction in severity of disease from SA's first wave. Not all bad news.
If I’m reading that correctly also that’s compared to the wave before delta which was already less severe!
Yeah, it’s compared to their first wave. I get a bit confused about the different variants in SA. I don’t think they had the same wuhan->alpha->delta waves we had.
In my household we've done 3 home PCR tests and never got the results back from any of them. Doesn't seem the most well thought-out practice.
I don’t think any of it is bad news. Immune escape was inevitable based on the lab data. It could easily have been a lot worse. If anything, the protection from just two doses is better than expected.
More than 8k in the queue before me now.
I checked yesterday and had something similar. Personally I am not too fussed, I am happy to wait a few more days/weeks if needed.
For it to be a lie he would have to know the real numbers. I’d put that down to old fashioned incompetence.
No, same too although not quite as bad a results ratio as you. We did two and got one result back.
I actually work for, albeit in a different sector, the company doing the lions share of UK / EU covid PCR tests and I can tell you it's no small feat managing it all and sending tests and results through the post. It isn't ideal at all but the sheer volume of tests required nationwide means it's completely necessary. The whole thing has transformed one sector of the company into an enormous speed testing business.
There was a while, when the PCR travel passport took off that 1000's of people were chasing up test results and, while trying to get though to the test centre, would call any phone number they could find on the internet for our company. I was fending off irate callers shouting and screaming for their results. Unbelievable scenes.
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I will try a walk-in center near me. If it takes too long, I will wait as well.
A) to protect yourself
B) to protect others
You may have a good immune system like the majority of people but you haven't got sick much recently because lockdowns/masks/distancing works really well to reduce colds and flu and not just covid
Taking multivitamins/vitamin D/ Fish oil instead of vaccination/boosters to protect against covid is the equivalent of taking calcium tablets instead of wearing a seatbelt and driving a car with airbags, to protect yourself from broken bones.
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Boosted!
Replace alpha with beta for second wave. I think beta was actually the deadliest, although there was zero vaccine coverage for that wave so who knows.
Beta was another immune escape variant, wasn’t it?
Just occurred to me. What would have happened if we had omicron straight off the bat? If it turns out to be less virulent than previous variants that will be mainly be driven by the protection against serious illness from past exposure and/or vaccination.
Mind boggling to think what virus as transmissible and potentially lethal as this could do in a completely naïve population.