This is why we need to install bidets.
SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
- Thread starter Don't Kill Bill
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Pretty much everybody i know here is cleaning/throwing away the packaging on anything that comes through the front door and washing hands immediately afterwards.
95% of people are going to be infected
you guys are the Alex Jones of redcafe.You think 90% population has to be immune for it not to spread rapidly that's a load of rubbish. if more then half of the population was immune to this the spread would be insignificant even 40/30 its the fact 0% are which is the problem
I work in a university. Regardless of what the government says - we're considering all sorts at present. e.g. stop loaning laptops, books in the Library. All staff work remotely etc. Lots of plans, but we will see.
95% of people are going to be infected
You think 90% population has to be immune for it not to spread rapidly that's a load of rubbish. if more then half of the population was immune to this the spread would be insignificant even 40/30 its the fact 0% are which is the problem
At least TRY and read what I put there.
johnson's government is suggesting we develop herd immunity.
That is the required level of infection to accomplish that.
95% of people are going to be infected
You think 90% population has to be immune for it not to spread rapidly that's a load of rubbish. if more then half of the population was immune to this the spread would be insignificant even 40/30 its the fact 0% are which is the problem
If they're talking about just delaying and managing the spread of the disease then yes, that might work.
They're specifically using the term "herd immunity" though, which implies something else. So they either don't understand how herd immunity works or (more likely) they're misusing the term as part of their messaging.
If they wanted to achieve that they wouldn't isolate or quarantine anyone the whole hysteria and conspiracies need to be dropped. Yes he said it in a interview as one of the options but it was along side mitigating the amount of infections hes made it blatantly obvious we can't make this virus disappear it will have to play out.
Boris is a twat but some of the stuff people are spouting come on.
I've not heard of herd immunity outside of vaccination rates. Were they talking about subsequent years rather than present?
Its a behavioural science concept.
Its also very specific, herd immunity requires the presence of antibodies in 90% of the herd.
The only way to develop antibodies right now is to both contract and survive it. Even then, with reports of people contracting it more than once, this may provide ineffective.
Considering your user name and the last line, there is a joke in there somewhere.
Astronauts to work from home too?
It's true, of course, but most of them do shut down at least once a year (usually for Christmas) with students still resident there, so there'll be some idea of what staff are essential. I assume more would be required to come in still, but it could have been worked out by now.
So do I, the planning at ours is to put up some more hand sanitisers and tell people to self isolate if they've been to hot spot countries. I'm sure contingency measures are being put in place behind the scenes (the popular assumption is that it's going to require a herculean effort by already fecked off staff to offer up distance learning versions of their courses), but it seems too little, too late as far as I can see.
Spray the box with Dettol spray.
I know the term but never seen it used this way. It's typically used to encourage vaccination so the herd can protect those who can't be vaccinated etc.
Surely one of the biggest questions has to be around what to do with the thousands of international students universities have if there was a shut down which included campus spaces?
I personally think the media are just perpetuating a panic response. It's fecking annoying. What kind of lesson does this teach the kids? When faced with something potentially problematic, shit yourself constantly, think illogically and panic.
That said, the 3% fatality rate being banded around is complete horseshit imo. There will be far more than 480 cases of corona in the UK. Far more. The thing that bumps up the mortality is the lack of reporting/testing for milder symptoms.
That said, the 3% fatality rate being banded around is complete horseshit imo. There will be far more than 480 cases of corona in the UK. Far more. The thing that bumps up the mortality is the lack of reporting/testing for milder symptoms.
Don't want to spread it to the martiansAstronauts to work from home too?
The second issue is that students receive maintenance loans and visas (for international students) for a set period of time. If they add another month or months to their course then it becomes a bit of a nightmare financially. That goes for students not on campus too.
Well it worked in War of the Worlds so..
Hopefully its just nothing.
Queues for supermarkets
That's what I've been doing. Ironically, I bought a sideboard thing from Amazon that went through Lombardy in Italy on its way here. Sprayed the shit out of the box.
Just wondering why the same hand sanitation liquid employed all over hospitals isnt being put in place in all shops across the country rather than everyone panic buying hand lotion?
If you can still buy some.
You both have more faith in university admin than I do if you think either of those things are being seriously considered!
What has largely been my experience is VC teams forgetting that they employ vast swathes of very knowledgable people and trying to do everything themselves which I'm almost certain will see universities sitting on their thumbs until they're told to shut by the government and then a bunch of VCs going 'oh geez how could we ever have foreseen this coming?'.
They have had months to plan for the, fairly inevitable, spread of this to the UK and could well have attempted to work on mitigation of this then. As I say, it seems that most people think that the planning will see a shift to online delivery of courses which, if that is the case, is yet to be communicated to staff – at least where I am.
Same for every disease though
Doesn't it only survive a few hours on cardboard?
Tell me where, I want to hoard it all.
It's going to be closer to 1% or lower eventually but it's still very, very high for a common disease you can contract easily.
Get the feeling they're trying to stagger through to Easter when it's a two week break regardless (think holiday starts 27th March) but events likely to mean a lockdown will have to be implemented before then.
Huh? There was never any lockdowns in S'pore. Where are you getting your information?
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I'm not sure you read what the poster said.95% of people are going to be infected
You think 90% population has to be immune for it not to spread rapidly that's a load of rubbish. if more then half of the population was immune to this the spread would be insignificant even 40/30 its the fact 0% are which is the problem
There was no prediction of 95% of the population contracting CV19 in the post. It was being pointed out that to achieve herd immunity high %s of the population must carry antibodies. This is not always as high as 90% as it depends on how contagious the diseases is but 90 to 95% is correct for Measles and, for Polio, around 10% less (so, no, not "more than half" or "40/30" (%)). Therefore, if herd immunity were to be achieved and as no vaccination exists there would be a requirement for the vast majority of the population to contract the diseases which, at current understood mortality rate estimates, would result in the deaths of, literally, over a million people in the UK.
Clearly, herd immunity will not be achieved until a vaccine is developed and the use of the term by Government is incorrect.
The gold standards for the Coronavirus epidemic management go to Singapore and Hong Kong, not South Korea.
Joy?
Well, my workplace just closed and is staying closed until Easter
The amount of money they are going to lose from all of this will be astronomical. A lot of the bodies, companies and clubs will not recover from it. Obviously they understand people's health is important but they also have to look after the financial side of their sport. It is disheartening but that is the way of the world.
It's not a matter of opinion. Mortality rates are between 8% and 0.5% in countries where outbreaks have occurred. The 3% estimates being touted are based on mortality rates seen under a collapsing infrastructure. In short, if the hospitals can cope and the spread does not go exponential mortality rates will be considerably lower hence the measures to slow the spread that are being proposed.
The lesson it teaches the kids is that taking precautions to minimise deaths is a good idea for society as a whole. Idiots stockpiling toilet paper notwithstanding, it is important that the public alters its collective behaviour to, literally, save lives.