It's very loose here in Florence. I've seen more people doing the chinstrap mask thing than those wearing them properly. Maskless people are also a fairly common sight. Restaurants and shops are very busy and I've seen people shaking hands and hugging.The weather is lovely right now and the city is very busy. I think there is going to be a nasty shock in the coming weeks as everybody seems to have let their guard down here.
SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
- Thread starter Don't Kill Bill
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The working hypothesis for the Perth, Western Australia infection is that a seriously ill hotel quarantine arrival received medication to their room and the open/closing of the door created an air transfer system right past the guard sitting down the hallway. Perth has not had a community case in 10 months. This guard went on with his life and visited about 20 high-population sites whilst infectious.
It's a 50 cal. bullet dodge that we aren't currently reporting 50-100 cases a day...of the UK variant. The more you lower your guard, the more vulnerable you become.
English and Brazilian variants are present in Italy too.
Had my second vaccine dose yesterday. Soon after I finished work, I ordered the new Microsoft Surface Studio, only £4290. It allows me to do everything I need to do.
Jesus christ! It'd had better suck you off for that price.
The great thing is that you don't even need to connect it to the WiFi it just logs onto the 5G implant in your arm.
Bill Gates conspiracy theories confirmed.
Overpaid doctor
Overpaid doctor
I can't tell whether my joke was just poorly executed, but yeah I didn't buy such an item
Just fueling the Microsoft-controlling-chip theorists.In probably too-good-to-be-true news out of Israel, some allegedly promising phase I results for an inhaled immunomodulatory experimental drug originally apparently designed for ovarian cancer called EXO-CD24
https://www.timesofisrael.com/new-i...-to-serious-covid-cases-within-days-hospital/
https://www.timesofisrael.com/new-i...-to-serious-covid-cases-within-days-hospital/
I can't tell whether my joke was just poorly executed, but yeah I didn't buy such an item
I thought you were serious. I was joking myself, what someone does with their own money is not my business!Wasn't sure where to post this. It's a good listen
I knew where you were coming from. But then I may have already been vaccinated so that's probably just the hive mind network linking upI can't tell whether my joke was just poorly executed, but yeah I didn't buy such an item
I had my first CV vaccine today. The whole thing was superbly well organised. The vaccines were the Oxford AZ one which I was very happy with.
While I was being booked in, a guy was told by the receptionist next to me that he would be getting the Astra Zenica vaccine.
The guy said that he didn't want that one, only the English jab.
The receptionist told him that it was the English one.
Well that's ok then he said.
I am not having the Russian or Chinese one. Only the English one.
Luckily I had a mask on so he could not see me smiling...
While I was being booked in, a guy was told by the receptionist next to me that he would be getting the Astra Zenica vaccine.
The guy said that he didn't want that one, only the English jab.
The receptionist told him that it was the English one.
Well that's ok then he said.
I am not having the Russian or Chinese one. Only the English one.
Luckily I had a mask on so he could not see me smiling...
Reminds me of being in the dentist surgery once, and an Eastern European receptionist getting some grief off some idiot on the phone, apparently moaning about wanting to "speak to someone who can speak english". (She spoke perfect English - just had an accent)
The dentists were Spanish and Indian, so I wonder if that person tried to push their weight around with them as well.
10,000 Pfizer does due in the next 2 weeks with border and quarantine staff first cab of the rank.
No new cases today as well. Housemates still testing negative.
The Repubblica newspaper reports today that a hospital in the Veneto region has 22 elderly patients and 4 care staff who have tested positive, after refusing the vaccine. Whilst no-one can say for sure if the staff were the people who infected the patients, the local health authority is actually consulting lawyers about it. There have been statements to the effect that it's unacceptable for health care workers to refuse the vaccine when they're working with vulnerable people in hospital.
It raises an interesting question about the right of an individual to refuse the vaccine on "I just don't want it" grounds, when their work makes them more likely to spread the virus. I personally find it astonishing that a healthy person would turn it down when they're working in a hospital with daily patient contact.
It raises an interesting question about the right of an individual to refuse the vaccine on "I just don't want it" grounds, when their work makes them more likely to spread the virus. I personally find it astonishing that a healthy person would turn it down when they're working in a hospital with daily patient contact.
Its definitely an interesting dilemma and one that @Pogue Mahone has rightly already mentioned a few times.
I don't know what the situation is across mainland Europe or North America (though I can't imagine it is that different) but you can't work as a doctor in the UK or Australia without evidence of an extensive array of vaccines/ immunities/ lack of current infection of various pathogens. Of course, nobody is saying that you have to have those vaccines, there's no straightjacket involved....Just, if you don't want to have the vaccine, you can find work in another field. Every time you move to a different trust, you have to show evidence of these vaccinations and you'll have to get blood tests showing your current HIV/Hep B/ Hep C status every few years if you're moving usually.
I think there is currently some leeway because it is all so new and most governments are learning on the job, reacting to new information all the time and making huge, long-lasting decisions. And in fairness, the flu vaccine isn't compulsory, though they lean on staff very heavily to have it. But I can definitely see there being pressure to add the covid vaccine to the list eventually.
Most of the staff I know who don't want it at the moment are (sadly) from ethnic minorities. Most in fairness are not vaccine skeptic as such, they just want to see it being rolled out over a 5-6 month period before being happy with getting it themselves. There's a lot of misinformation to be combated though, I walked past a group of African and Indian nurses last week huddled round a phone playing a video of how the covid vaccines are a way to sterilise the ethnic minorities in Western countries.
Just looking at the worldometer website. Any reason people think there's been a sharp decline in worldwide cases for more than a month now? I guess half the countries having lockdowns and restrictions are having an effect and is the main reason. The situation in the US seems to have improved a lot despite not having full lockdowns.
A huge chunk of those daily cases were coming from the US.. It got close to almost 300k/day from what I remember.
Why a sharp decline.. who knows.. xmas , new years over.. elections/rallies over. People seeing the numbers go up that drastically and being a little more careful ..
I think the Christmas / New Years holiday period being over certainly wouldve helped.. globally.
The weather is getting warmer which will also help.
I was just thinking about this. Can they really have spent 22 billion pounds? That is over 300 pounds per head of population.
What's the general % expected to take it up in Italy once the vaccine is in widespread use?
Lockdowns many places in the northern hemisphere are certainly a part of it. The US having an adult in charge of the federal government must certainly be having an effect too.
People are a bunch of cnuts. No matter what rules you put in place some people think they are above that and will try to circumnavigate
as for the Irish government why are we keeping open a route to Australia and China? No one is going on holiday so why?
Only Australia citizens and permanent residents are allowed in.
We have had a few quarantine hotel workers catching the UK variant in the last few days/weeks - looks like the UK variant travels through the air more easily, possibly via airconditioning - so that means aerosol transmission is more common.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-55929180
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-55929180
He may of threatened to release a new movie.
That’s why I don’t understand his reasoning for keeping that route open
Just watching BBC news after the United game. No record of Corona in any animal in the wet markets so that's been ruled out.
They are claiming it couldn't possibly be from that lab that was experimenting on coronaviruses because there's no records of a virus like that in the lab and are suggesting the virus came to Wuhan in frozen food from abroad.
This is definitely making me think it was a lab all along.
They are claiming it couldn't possibly be from that lab that was experimenting on coronaviruses because there's no records of a virus like that in the lab and are suggesting the virus came to Wuhan in frozen food from abroad.
This is definitely making me think it was a lab all along.
Accidentally watched the news too for the first time in ages and I couldn’t help but notice this disclaimer..
113,850
Total U.K. deaths
Deaths for any reason within 28 days of a positive test.
what the feck does that mean?
That if someone had a positive test but died of anything else, they put Coronavirus as the cause of death I'm guessing.
I’ve seen ‘died within 28 days of a positive test’ but filled in the blanks and presumed it meant a covid related illness. Pneumonia etc. I’ve not actually seen it phrased like that.
Yeah this whole investigation is rubbish. China have had a year to create (or remove) any evidence they wanted to. Not that it was necessarily from a lab, but just that this investigation is pointless.
Looks like an infected person was using a nebuliser that was venting into the corridor of the quarantine hotel that caused the spread.
https://www.theguardian.com/austral...081476baec53af#block-602323b78f081476baec53af