SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)

Hopefully we reached peak deaths yesterday and it’s a slow downward curve from here on in.
 
NinjaFletch said:
That's so typically English you have to laugh.

What a bizarre country we are.
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To be fair, in most countries the options are the national language(s) or English. Apart from Switzerland, I doubt there are many countries where you can turn up with a certificate in Italian.
 
Pexbo said:
Fifteen people?! That gives out such a mixed message.
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Can only imagine they have picked a size that couldn't possibly be one family.
Just so they don't stumble into some political sh!tstorm of accusations about "targeting" any multi generational families.
 
Volumiza said:
Just got back from taking the old lady next door for her vaccine. What an emotional experience.

We went to the Derby Velodrome and there were hundreds of elderly people, some, like my neighbour were in wheelchairs, some with frames, and others just standing and queueing patiently.

The army of volunteers, helpers and NHS workers were so brilliant and i found the whole massive operation so humbling that I was feeling genuinely emotional. It was the most people I’ve been around for nearly a year and I couldn’t help but feel that all of their lives were facing similar challenges as the lady next door.

Whatever shambles our government has been and however many idiots there are out there, I couldn’t help but marvel at the size of this operation and feel like I was amongst the good people, the patient and the helpful. Really got to me and a lady pushing another wheelchair next to me was trying to talk to me and could see my lip wobbling.

It all restored my faith a little.
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Top man.
I hope all elderly people have someone helping them out like you.
 
golden_blunder said:
Some people with certain habits might try snd get COVID just to get £500
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I was going to say the exact same thing, to some that is a risk worth taking for £500, but if it massively increases the people willing to get a test, then I guess it's worth the risk of the minority seeing it as an opportunity for a bit of free money.
 
Tibs said:
Priti Patel giving Press Conference

Says from next week, anyone attending a house party - fifteen people or more, they will be hit with an £800 fine
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Perfect, I'll keep my illegal house parties to fourteen.
 
Adamsk7 said:
I’ve been banging back vitamin D and bought a Pulse Oximeter in February - it’s amazing how behind the NHS are on this!
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The medical community in the UK (and mostly GPs) have been badly exposed for their work shyness and lack of any process. Some of my Porsche driving GP footy friends were turning away their long covid suffering patients as hypochondriacs. This was in August. Not one of them could care less about any inclination to put some hours studying or recording what their patients were telling them and reporting back up to the GMC. Not one.

Like I said, there was no process and still isn't. And even if there was their jobsworthness shone through like a beacon.
 
Dumbstar said:
The medical community in the UK (and mostly GPs) have been badly exposed for their work shyness and lack of any process. Some of my Porsche driving GP footy friends were turning away their long covid suffering patients as hypochondriacs. This was in August. Not one of them could care less about any inclination to put some hours studying or recording what their patients were telling them and reporting back up to the GMC. Not one.

Like I said, there was no process and still isn't. And even if there was their jobsworthness shone through like a beacon.
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The addition of loss of smell and taste symptoms as core covid symptoms was done in large part as a result of GP's listening to patients way before NHS recognised them as reasons for getting tested - https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/03/29/gps-acknowledging-taste-smell-loss-symptom-coronavirus/

Long covid clinics are also GP-staffed: https://www.pulsetoday.co.uk/news/c...0-gp-staffed-long-covid-clinics-within-weeks/
That's in addition to the round the clock vaccination service GPs are doing including at weekends + manning face-to-face covid "hot hub" clinics

We don't report back up to GMC because that isn't what the GMC is for. I'd literally spent ages studying long covid literature. What you said would piss me off if I wasn't sure that you don't have the slightest idea what you are talking about.
 
Dumbstar said:
The medical community in the UK (and mostly GPs) have been badly exposed for their work shyness and lack of any process. Some of my Porsche driving GP footy friends were turning away their long covid suffering patients as hypochondriacs. This was in August. Not one of them could care less about any inclination to put some hours studying or recording what their patients were telling them and reporting back up to the GMC. Not one.

Like I said, there was no process and still isn't. And even if there was their jobsworthness shone through like a beacon.
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That's not my personal experience at all. I got a temperature back in May and what is now know as covid toes and no other symptoms. I had one night where breathing was difficult, but not too bad. I had no other symptoms and although I didn't know it was covid at the time I knew it could be so self isolated and it was over pretty quickly.

About 3 weeks after that I got some worrying symptoms involving my lungs / throat which caused me to go to the GP. This was at a time where there was a mass of cases and we were being instructed not to go unless urgent so I didn't know what to expect. I was referred for multiple scans and I still go back once a month for check ups.

Considering they had no idea about what was going on at the time, I didn't exactly have regular symptoms added to the fact they were ultra-busy (and still are) the way I have been treated is fantastic. They are now sure that it is long covid and thankfully I'm almost fully recovered. Hopefully my next visit will be the last one and that's partly down to the GP's who kept on top of it and referred me constantly when they could quite easily have just disregarded me as non-urgent.
 
madzo2007 said:
Northern Ireland lockdown also extended to the 5th March

I just want a proper night out sometime.... soon :(
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A good while yet. Seems a few in Sage are asking for hospitality not to open until May at earliest. Think the compromise will be early April.

Way this govenrment rolls announcing some easing of rules on March 23rd will be decent optics for them as will be a year since first lockdown started on that day.
 
My Mum who I live with now during this is having her first vaccine tomorrow she's 82 and in decent health.

I've hardly left the house since March I couldn't bear passing it on by taking any risk.

I am so relieved am nearly in tears. I know we have more time to go yet but at least this is something.
 
The Cat said:
My Mum who I live with now during this is having her first vaccine tomorrow she's 82 and in decent health.

I've hardly left the house since March I couldn't bear passing it on by taking any risk.

I am so relieved am nearly in tears. I know we have more time to go yet but at least this is something.
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That's good news for you both. You've done your very best for her. :)
 
Oh well, here we go. First real worry of infection. I manage one of two teams who have to go into our workplace and 4 of us, and my partner now have some symptoms come on in the last 24 hours. Stuffy nose, slight temperature and breathless feeling in our chests.

We do do Covid testing at work so I’m lucky enough to be able to get tested very easily, just going to get swabbed in the car park now. We suspect just a cold has gone into the two teams but we have to make sure.
 
Wolverine said:
The addition of loss of smell and taste symptoms as core covid symptoms was done in large part as a result of GP's listening to patients way before NHS recognised them as reasons for getting tested - https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/03/29/gps-acknowledging-taste-smell-loss-symptom-coronavirus/

Long covid clinics are also GP-staffed: https://www.pulsetoday.co.uk/news/c...0-gp-staffed-long-covid-clinics-within-weeks/
That's in addition to the round the clock vaccination service GPs are doing including at weekends + manning face-to-face covid "hot hub" clinics

We don't report back up to GMC because that isn't what the GMC is for. I'd literally spent ages studying long covid literature. What you said would piss me off if I wasn't sure that you don't have the slightest idea what you are talking about.
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Pay no mind. He's lashing out. He's a Liverpool fan and United are top of the league whilst he's just looked at the table and has realised that Liverpool are battling it out with West Ham and Everton for 4th place this season.

jojojo said:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55733527

Home pulse oximeters now being recommended by an NHS study - only 9 months behind this thread :wenger:
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I bought one because of this thread!
 
Volumiza said:
Oh well, here we go. First real worry of infection. I manage one of two teams who have to go into our workplace and 4 of us, and my partner now have some symptoms come on in the last 24 hours. Stuffy nose, slight temperature and breathless feeling in our chests.

We do do Covid testing at work so I’m lucky enough to be able to get tested very easily, just going to get swabbed in the car park now. We suspect just a cold has gone into the two teams but we have to make sure.
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Good luck. At least you have access to early testing so will know one way or the other quickly.
 
The Cat said:
My Mum who I live with now during this is having her first vaccine tomorrow she's 82 and in decent health.

I've hardly left the house since March I couldn't bear passing it on by taking any risk.

I am so relieved am nearly in tears. I know we have more time to go yet but at least this is something.
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Happy for you and proud of you. Well done. Still, you gotta be vigilant. The battle isn't over yet. All the best.
 
Could someone provide a link to a good / accurate pulse oximeter?

There are loads on Amazon etc but so many reviews say they’re grossly inaccurate! Can’t help fee market has been flooded with cheap shite due to demand.
 
Volumiza said:
Oh well, here we go. First real worry of infection. I manage one of two teams who have to go into our workplace and 4 of us, and my partner now have some symptoms come on in the last 24 hours. Stuffy nose, slight temperature and breathless feeling in our chests.

We do do Covid testing at work so I’m lucky enough to be able to get tested very easily, just going to get swabbed in the car park now. We suspect just a cold has gone into the two teams but we have to make sure.
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Good luck. Hope it turns out negative.
 
Balljy said:
That's not my personal experience at all. I got a temperature back in May and what is now know as covid toes and no other symptoms. I had one night where breathing was difficult, but not too bad. I had no other symptoms and although I didn't know it was covid at the time I knew it could be so self isolated and it was over pretty quickly.

About 3 weeks after that I got some worrying symptoms involving my lungs / throat which caused me to go to the GP. This was at a time where there was a mass of cases and we were being instructed not to go unless urgent so I didn't know what to expect. I was referred for multiple scans and I still go back once a month for check ups.

Considering they had no idea about what was going on at the time, I didn't exactly have regular symptoms added to the fact they were ultra-busy (and still are) the way I have been treated is fantastic. They are now sure that it is long covid and thankfully I'm almost fully recovered. Hopefully my next visit will be the last one and that's partly down to the GP's who kept on top of it and referred me constantly when they could quite easily have just disregarded me as non-urgent.
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That's good to hear about your GP and glad you're over it. Couldn't help notice you mentioned lung issues. Doctors were only jumping on that everywhere at the time, like you say there was not much info around then.

Patients without lung involvement were not so lucky. Still aren't.
 
Wolverine said:
The addition of loss of smell and taste symptoms as core covid symptoms was done in large part as a result of GP's listening to patients way before NHS recognised them as reasons for getting tested - https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/03/29/gps-acknowledging-taste-smell-loss-symptom-coronavirus/

Long covid clinics are also GP-staffed: https://www.pulsetoday.co.uk/news/c...0-gp-staffed-long-covid-clinics-within-weeks/
That's in addition to the round the clock vaccination service GPs are doing including at weekends + manning face-to-face covid "hot hub" clinics

We don't report back up to GMC because that isn't what the GMC is for. I'd literally spent ages studying long covid literature. What you said would piss me off if I wasn't sure that you don't have the slightest idea what you are talking about.
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I apologise as I did make a generalisation and it was stupid. I should have added in my experience with my own GPs (plural) and the many heated arguments I had with my GP footy friends.

You are not a GP are you? You don't come across here as one as you share so much useful knowledge which I have read over the last year or so.
 
Volumiza said:
Oh well, here we go. First real worry of infection. I manage one of two teams who have to go into our workplace and 4 of us, and my partner now have some symptoms come on in the last 24 hours. Stuffy nose, slight temperature and breathless feeling in our chests.

We do do Covid testing at work so I’m lucky enough to be able to get tested very easily, just going to get swabbed in the car park now. We suspect just a cold has gone into the two teams but we have to make sure.
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Good luck
 
Dumbstar said:
I apologise as I did make a generalisation and it was stupid. I should have added in my experience with my own GPs (plural) and the many heated arguments I had with my GP footy friends.

You are not a GP are you? You don't come across here as one as you share so much useful knowledge which I have read over the last year or so.
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He’s a doctor
 
esmufc07 said:
Long overdue

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I can see it now. A load of people who I've heard pass off the virus as "Just a cold/flu, only killing the elderley, I'm not worried" etc. Becoming less vigilant on purpose, as they wouldn't mind getting the virus and getting a free £500 in their pockets.
 
golden_blunder said:
Good luck
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Im sure it’s fine but there’s now a concern at work that even though we have been uber careful and implemented very strict protocols from the very beginning and have enforced 80 or so staff to work from home to protect those of us that can’t, somehow a (hopefully) cold has spread between two segregated teams.

Back to the drawing board.
 
This proposed £500 payment for isolating, to me, is a real sign of how much this has been fecked up, and the selfishness of so many.

Fair enough if its means tested for those in genuine need, but for the rest? feck off
 
Tibs said:
This proposed £500 payment for isolating, to me, is a real sign of how much this has been fecked up, and the selfishness of so many.

Fair enough if its means tested for those in genuine need, but for the rest? feck off
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Some cases it might be selfish employers rather than selfish employees.
 
Tibs said:
This proposed £500 payment for isolating, to me, is a real sign of how much this has been fecked up, and the selfishness of so many.

Fair enough if its means tested for those in genuine need, but for the rest? feck off
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It will mean more people get tested which will mean confirmed cases will rise again.

Best late Christmas present the MSM and scaremongers could wish for!
 
@Dumbstar Tbh I'll back you up a bit as I live in a house of 4 and the only who is flippant about things is indeed a trainee doctor. Actions included forming a support bubble without telling anyone, which was just a bit annoying really. She tends to ignore our messages when we ask things, which included us trying to figure out how we could deal with Boris' Christmas 180. Even though we were in Tier 4, she then left to go spend a week with her family without mentioning it.

I'm fairly meh about it myself but it's pissed off the other housemates including a biomedical scientist who works on Covid stuff. He spent a week self-isolating in his room to visit his family and then couldn't even go because of Boris' turnaround.

Admittedly the doctors on this forum are great. I get a completely different vibe from them.
 
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