He's clearly just going by total cases.
That being said, they're still on that quadratic curve like everyone else. It just doesn't look like that because their data is skewed because of that cult(?) outbreak.
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He's clearly just going by total cases.
That being said, they're still on that quadratic curve like everyone else. It just doesn't look like that because their data is skewed because of that cult(?) outbreak.
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Couldn't an outbreak Spain my quite bad for the UK? There are many British immigrants there and they'd probably try and get back to the UK as things get worse.
Oh Man, I've been holding off going to the gym since this escalated because it seems like a prime spot for superspreaders but now i'm thinking I should go...not that im obese but being fit and active seems like a good state to be in.
I'll go for a swim and a sauna that seems like a safer option
Going into a sauna would be a terrible option.
Yeah there was a burst of cases yesterday. Need a few days to figure out if that was an anomaly. I still classify them as fecked for now.
I personally think it's useful to observe other countries to see what measures are working and what isn't.
1215 tests and 83 more cases.
1301 tests and 54 cases.
1447 tests and 46 cases
Testing less, finding more cases.
1301 tests and 54 cases.
1447 tests and 46 cases
Testing less, finding more cases.
In theory, it should be bad for most major cities in latin America.
Is the extra money related to coronavirus UK wide or just for England? I can never tell when it's the chancellor's Budget addresses.
They should quarantine benidorm.
what will happen to care workers going house to house caring for the elderly that all have underlying conditions or are already dying or suffering with dementia and the like. They will have to carry on under whatever circumstances surely.
In Lebanon there are 2 dead so far and 68 confirmed cases (officially)
South Korea has more cases because they have conducted more tests. This is why health experts are taking the mortality numbers from South Korea as the most accurate estimates as of now.
Also they have very few deaths so they've quite clearly handles this very well. Long may it continue.
How come the testing numbers keep decreasing?
Czech Republic closed it all down from today. I have seen today the Health Minister saying he recommends schools to be closed minimum one month here in CZ. Very responsible and pro-active approach from the central european countries.
It's very interesting that because Germany also has a very low death rate despite a big spread.
What makes South Korea and Germany different from Italy, China and Iran? And, more crucially, where will the UK fall in this spectrum?
Close the borders to old Brexit Bendiorm whoppers? Downside?
Not sure what this is a response to. The post I replied to was commenting that he'd clearly just run down the countries with the most cases and labelled them as 'Countries who are fecked'.
Also, South Korea 'has more cases' because they had a cluster outbreak at a megachurch which roughly (I believe up to secondary transmission) accounts for 90% of their 7700 cases.
It's well-known how widely they are testing and the innovative measures they're employing.
most likely they did not run out of breathers yet , so they dont have to do triage on who gets one
No no. Not total cases. It's more the trend of daily cases. South Korea had a big burst today which I can't figure out if it's a one-off or it's starting to form other clusters separate from the church cluster. From what I can gather, the 242 new cases today are in Seoul and not in Daegu.
Does anyone have the timeline for Italy? I want to compare it with my country(Norway)...
We got our first confirmed case 14 days ago. Now around 450 people have been confirmed, with 3-4(?) people hospitalized. I don't think any of the hospitalized people are in critical condition. Everyone else seems to have mild/regular symptoms. At the current rate we'll be into the thousands by next week, though. I fear it's only a matter of time before the deaths start rolling in
We got our first confirmed case 14 days ago. Now around 450 people have been confirmed, with 3-4(?) people hospitalized. I don't think any of the hospitalized people are in critical condition. Everyone else seems to have mild/regular symptoms. At the current rate we'll be into the thousands by next week, though. I fear it's only a matter of time before the deaths start rolling in
South Korea began rapid testing quicker than most. Last I heard, they had conducted 180,000 (not sure if thats a true figure). But I imagine they're quicker it identfying active cases and thus providing more efficient and effective care.
Most other countries are lagging behind and aren't identifying cases quickly enough - Italy and Iran being prime examples of cases lingering about for a while before coming to light.
I'd say the outbreak in the UK is in the balance. Either we're super efficient at identifying cases and tracing or we're as far behind as Italy. We have however a lower case per test rate vs Italy.
Just heard rumours that Bury College to be put in lockdown - people seen arriving in Hazmat suits to do a clean-down.
My source is not one of the tin hat brigade - they work in Higher education - all Universities and colleges in the area told to be on standby to be ready to close at short notice if necessary.
My source is not one of the tin hat brigade - they work in Higher education - all Universities and colleges in the area told to be on standby to be ready to close at short notice if necessary.
Does anyone have the timeline for Italy? I want to compare it with my country(Norway)...
We got our first confirmed case 14 days ago. Now around 450 people have been confirmed, with 3-4(?) people hospitalized. I don't think any of the hospitalized people are in critical condition. Everyone else seems to have mild/regular symptoms. At the current rate we'll be into the thousands by next week, though. I fear it's only a matter of time before the deaths start rolling in
There might be one a few pages back.
I do remember a post earlier that showed Italy having found almost 2000 cases after conducting 25,000 tests.
Yes, 'starting to form other clusters from the church cluster', as you put it. It looks like a big burst after a slowdown but it's a normal 'burst'.
The megachurch element 'skews' their data in that it can mask the actual progression if one is just looking at the total case numbers and not by region. That particular local anomalous burst is slowing down but within the larger population, the normal progression is growing at the 'normal' rate.
Edit: Here's 90 of those 242.
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Does anyone have the timeline for Italy? I want to compare it with my country(Norway)...
We got our first confirmed case 14 days ago. Now around 450 people have been confirmed, with 3-4(?) people hospitalized. I don't think any of the hospitalized people are in critical condition. Everyone else seems to have mild/regular symptoms. At the current rate we'll be into the thousands by next week, though. I fear it's only a matter of time before the deaths start rolling in
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_coronavirus_outbreak_in_Italy#Timeline
The outbreak was detected on 21st February, although the government says it actually started mid-end January.
Yes they had planned to test all 250,000 of the Shincheonji members. It's a great case study of whether mass testing of everybody will help stop the disease spread. So far so good, until today it seems.
Let's see how the next few days go for them. If they manage to quell the disease spread so quickly (less than 2-3 weeks since their outbreak) and with only tens of fatalities then we need to follow their lead.
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Does anyone have the timeline for Italy? I want to compare it with my country(Norway)...
We got our first confirmed case 14 days ago. Now around 450 people have been confirmed, with 3-4(?) people hospitalized. I don't think any of the hospitalized people are in critical condition. Everyone else seems to have mild/regular symptoms. At the current rate we'll be into the thousands by next week, though. I fear it's only a matter of time before the deaths start rolling in
Might be useful
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/italy/
@robinamicrowave should be able to sort you out on that one.
Everyone should listen to the JRE podcast with Michael Osterholm. It is a serious issue and most information that ghosts around is false
“82,000 People are sick with Coronavirus at the moment,
of which 77,000 are in China.
This means that if you are not in or haven't recently visited China, this should eliminate 94% of your concern.
If you do contract Coronavirus, this still is not a cause for panic because:
81% of the Cases are MILD
14% of the Cases are MODERATE
Only 5% of the Cases are CRITICAL
Which means that even if you do get the virus, you are most likely to recover from it.
Some have said, “but this is worse than SARS!”. SARS had a fatality rate of 10% while COVID-19 has a fatality rate of 2%
Moreover, looking at the ages of those who are dying of this virus, the death rate for the people UNDER 50 years of age is only 0.2%
This means that:
if you are under 50 years of age and don't live in China - you are more likely to win the lottery (which has a 1 in 45,000,000 chance)
Let’s take one of the worst days so far, the 10th of February, when 108 people in CHINA died of Coronavirus.
On the same day:
26,283 people died of Cancer
24,641 people died of Heart Disease
4,300 people died of Diabetes
Suicide took 28 times more lives than the virus did.
Mosquitoes kill 2,740 people every day, HUMANS kill 1,300 fellow humans every day, and Snakes kill 137 people every day. (Sharks kill 2 people a year)
That is all.
Thank you Ken KJ Carter for putting it so educationally clear.
STOP FREAKING OUT!!!!”
Found this rather interesting
of which 77,000 are in China.
This means that if you are not in or haven't recently visited China, this should eliminate 94% of your concern.
If you do contract Coronavirus, this still is not a cause for panic because:
81% of the Cases are MILD
14% of the Cases are MODERATE
Only 5% of the Cases are CRITICAL
Which means that even if you do get the virus, you are most likely to recover from it.
Some have said, “but this is worse than SARS!”. SARS had a fatality rate of 10% while COVID-19 has a fatality rate of 2%
Moreover, looking at the ages of those who are dying of this virus, the death rate for the people UNDER 50 years of age is only 0.2%
This means that:
if you are under 50 years of age and don't live in China - you are more likely to win the lottery (which has a 1 in 45,000,000 chance)
Let’s take one of the worst days so far, the 10th of February, when 108 people in CHINA died of Coronavirus.
On the same day:
26,283 people died of Cancer
24,641 people died of Heart Disease
4,300 people died of Diabetes
Suicide took 28 times more lives than the virus did.
Mosquitoes kill 2,740 people every day, HUMANS kill 1,300 fellow humans every day, and Snakes kill 137 people every day. (Sharks kill 2 people a year)
That is all.
Thank you Ken KJ Carter for putting it so educationally clear.
STOP FREAKING OUT!!!!”
Found this rather interesting
Also games in Portugal for the next match day are being limited to 1000 fans
That's this story
The college is still open with lessons continuing for now, but the sports centre is closed.
https://www.manchestereveningnews.c...-bury-college-lockdown-after-17904560#2032073
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_coronavirus_outbreak_in_NorwayDoes anyone have the timeline for Italy? I want to compare it with my country(Norway)...
We got our first confirmed case 14 days ago. Now around 450 people have been confirmed, with 3-4(?) people hospitalized. I don't think any of the hospitalized people are in critical condition. Everyone else seems to have mild/regular symptoms. At the current rate we'll be into the thousands by next week, though. I fear it's only a matter of time before the deaths start rolling in
Could you provide some info here?
Thanks!
They started 2 weeks before us and it seemingly spread at the same pace. But after 2 weeks more than 20 people had already died. Wtf?
I've seen that floating around Facebook a few times and every time the poster gets torn to shreds by real doctor's on the ground. Now you've spread the infection to this forum.
Quarantine him @Damien
Yeah i've seen that shite on my facebook too.
So i'm not sure where you are on this. Do you think they are fecked and the disease is still progressing within the other regions of the country, or do you think they have it under control nationwide?
So no one will notice any real difference then ?