Twitter is just absurd at the minute. They need to get back to doing regular Covid briefings because in that absence created you've got the usual charlatan journalists spreading nonsense and twitter is resembling the anti-vaxer movement.
SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
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We get a lot of the evidence of it because we’re in the UK but I’m not sure there’s anything other than anecdotal evidence that the UK have been much less compliant. Were there not protest marches about restrictions throughout Europe? That doesn’t suggest huge compliance to me.
Are British people really more self interested than the French for example? I don’t know. I think a lot points to the Government and they’re delighted that people are targeting each other. Police checks showed that 75% were complaint with the quarantine so any studies are prone to the bias of those conducting them.
A balanced approach is making people aware of all the issues. They’re steadfastly refusing to admit that keeping schools and universities open is a big problem. They’d rather focus on the individual because it absolves them of responsibility.
UK figures - 87 deaths, 13,864 cases.
does that include the 1080 cases in their 6 county colony of Northern IReland?
No idea on the specifics, the data on https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/cases reads as follows for NI:
| Date | England daily | Northern Ireland daily | Scotland daily | Wales daily | England total | Northern Ireland total | Scotland total | Wales total |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 08-10-2020 | 144 | 667 | 262 | 1 | 491,428 | 18,190 | 37,033 | 29,028 |
| 07-10-2020 | 4,618 | 997 | 1,025 | 164 | 491,284 | 17,523 | 36,771 | 29,027 |
| 06-10-2020 | 10,638 | 813 | 1,009 | 496 | 486,666 | 16,526 | 35,746 | 28,863 |
| 05-10-2020 | 13,130 | 760 | 1,067 | 631 | 476,028 | 15,713 | 34,737 | 28,367 |
Test averages are about 3 days, so wouldn't surprise me if we see the NI jump occur over the weekend.
2nd wave taking hold now.
Cases per 1000 in Norn Iron are off the charts. Some of the very worst in Europe. Apparently nobody knows why. So much for this alleged advantage of being an island.
My brother tested positive for Covid 19 a few days after going to university and was showing symptoms. It has been just over a week and my parents are insisting on bringing him back tomorrow from Leicester to a house which contains me, my wife, my four month old and both my parents in their mid 50s. The scary thing is, they see nothing wrong with it and laughed it off.
Luckily, I have managed to get hold of my cousin who is a doctor who has been ridiculously busy throughout the whole pandemic and has worked in Covid 19 wards from the start, to speak with my brother and convince him to quarantine in his uni accommodation another 7 days before coming home.
The absolute state of it, I can’t believe I’ve got to sit down tonight and convince my parents its for the best.
Luckily, I have managed to get hold of my cousin who is a doctor who has been ridiculously busy throughout the whole pandemic and has worked in Covid 19 wards from the start, to speak with my brother and convince him to quarantine in his uni accommodation another 7 days before coming home.
The absolute state of it, I can’t believe I’ve got to sit down tonight and convince my parents its for the best.
Wow, I'm sorry you have to suffer through this kind of ordeal.
Lockdown already. Come on. Before hospitals get swarmed.
Do wonder what they'll do, when you factor in those numbers are a week-2weeks behind the virus. Deaths are 3-4weeks behind.
4.8k cases today from 30k tests, highest since pandemic started. We were on 4k yesterday with 44k cases so it’s getting much worse. 52 people dead today, almost 200 in the last 3 days. I fear to think what the numbers will be like in 2-3 weeks. I was wondering all Summer how cases were not going up with virtually no restrictions, probably was the weather or the fact people had been traveling all over the place so hardly in large groups at the same time. We will certainly surpass 100 deaths a day and people on the Internet are laughing about ‘fake pandemic’. I want to vomit.
Don’t tell me about it, half of my FB wall is conspiracy nonsense and people want to come out on the streets to protest against masks.
617 in Ireland today, 123 in Dublin, 107 in Cork, rumours of the schools getting a 3 week midterm, it's only a matter of time till we get a level 4 or 5 lockdown.
Few people in my area have got it, one of my old man's friends has it and didn't even know
Few people in my area have got it, one of my old man's friends has it and didn't even know
To sum up schools by me at the moment:
The local one has just had every single member of the English department test positive. 40+ kids have got it.
Another school by me have all of Year 11 off after six confirmed cases, most of Year 9 off after three confirmed cases and half of Year 7 off after two.
There has been a big argument on the local Facebook group as it’s just been confirmed another school nearby has had a Year 10 girl confirmed as being positive on Snapchat but her parents sent her in.
The local one has just had every single member of the English department test positive. 40+ kids have got it.
Another school by me have all of Year 11 off after six confirmed cases, most of Year 9 off after three confirmed cases and half of Year 7 off after two.
There has been a big argument on the local Facebook group as it’s just been confirmed another school nearby has had a Year 10 girl confirmed as being positive on Snapchat but her parents sent her in.
Does anyone have any idea about the overall % of people that had it any country? I know some studies have been done on Stockholm, New York, certain regions of Italy, but nothing nation-wide.
The reason why I am asking is that, with this number of recorded cases again, surely the herd immunity has at least a chance of being accomplished before the vaccine arrives?
Or if not, what is the way out? It has been seven fecking months and I feel no closer to a resolution than in March - this is still something that no one is talking about.
The reason why I am asking is that, with this number of recorded cases again, surely the herd immunity has at least a chance of being accomplished before the vaccine arrives?
Or if not, what is the way out? It has been seven fecking months and I feel no closer to a resolution than in March - this is still something that no one is talking about.
A few weeks ago before it kicked off again it was less than 8%.
Well feck.
When you have well known local gps standing on a soapbox in the middle of Derry’s shopping district spouting Facebook type nonsense about flu being a bigger danger, you can understand why people don’t give a shit. Plus Derry people travel for work to Belfast, Dublin etc
Don’t know if you saw Dr Black on RTE tonight live from Derry? He said people are continuing with communions etc, hugging each other with no masks in sight. The buck stops with the people
Spain was 5% and Madrid 11% in the summer. And that's a country with ~45k excess deaths with 48 mill population and 950-1000 dead per million, one of the highest in the world like the UK.
Sent her in AFTER a positive result?
350k cases worldwide in the last 24 hours, new record 
Mad if true
Feck’s sake.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-54486613
Three tiered system to be introduced on Monday, with North England and the Midlands facing pub and restaurant closures.
Three tiered system to be introduced on Monday, with North England and the Midlands facing pub and restaurant closures.
Sounds like Derry Girls was more realistic than I first thought.
1400 out of 38,000 enrolled at that particular Uni thought.
Well that's just bizarre, and very worrying. It may reduce Richmond's headline number but does that mean the Fallowfield (Manchester) number, fo example, is undercounting, in which case the universities need to go online sharpish and send the uninfected home - because it must be like living in a petri dish there right now.
I've alot of friends in the border areas and they are all saying the same. Nobody cares there.
I’ve heard similar stories. And geebs said the same thing. It’s weird though. Why are they being so reckless compared to the rest of Europe?
I dont know. Are they just a little arrogant?
My wife lived in UK for 10 years and has alot of friends there. At the start of this they were all part of the stuff upper lip brigade. You know the Keep Calm and Carry on types.
This is going to get bad.
We need to lock down again unfortunately.
feck it anyway.
Resilience is really going to be tested
Since the pandemic started, I've watched Mass online every week from lots of different Irish churches. They're all observing the measures of mask-wearing, distancing, hand-sanitising, they're not passing the collection around or having the congregation singing. No handshakes, either.
Mind you, these are the ones who broadcast the Mass online, so they know they're being watched!
Deprived areas, lack of investment, high unemployment, feck all to do apart from reading shite on FB and the likes
Im in a border area. Its a shitshow.
It was very unfortunate that the end of the first wave coincided with the start of the summer months, at least in the northern hemisphere. It was just the wrong time, because warm weather and long daylight hours will definitely get people out, particularly if they've felt confined for a few months before that.
Govts can be complete feckwits, actually I should replace the word can with the word are. This taking place here in NZ is awful https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/griev...peedboat-accident/3XF7JRON3STNIT4OXZQAV64QI4/
Awful for a number of reasons, the first is obvious of course, simple human compassion. But also awful because this family has been at sea and has long since gone past any 14 day quarantine type requirement. Awful because it feels like we are allowing people in based on how much money they have, there are still non NZ citizens coming here in small numbers and getting through the red tape because they have a lot of money are are seen to be providing employment opportunities. The Hollywood influx being the clearest example.
Of course this is in the world picture a tiny blip but it does show how hopeless govts can be at being able to think sensibly and adapt to situations that dont fit into a check box.
Awful for a number of reasons, the first is obvious of course, simple human compassion. But also awful because this family has been at sea and has long since gone past any 14 day quarantine type requirement. Awful because it feels like we are allowing people in based on how much money they have, there are still non NZ citizens coming here in small numbers and getting through the red tape because they have a lot of money are are seen to be providing employment opportunities. The Hollywood influx being the clearest example.
Of course this is in the world picture a tiny blip but it does show how hopeless govts can be at being able to think sensibly and adapt to situations that dont fit into a check box.
I don't think even the worst hit places have a chance of getting to the HIT without collapsing the health systems on that sort of time scale. I think exact figures are hard to get but the UK has about 8% infected to date although it will be higher than that as not everyone with it will have been tested/diagnosed. Still miles off HIT though. It does gradually reduce Ro though but HIT is where R0 is below 1 which in effect prevents it spreading.