We get a lot of the evidence of it because we’re in the UK but I’m not sure there’s anything other than anecdotal evidence that the UK have been much less compliant. Were there not protest marches about restrictions throughout Europe? That doesn’t suggest huge compliance to me.The reality is that the restrictions placed on the UK have been less severe than countries in comparable situations and yet they've had lower levels of compliance. Part of that can be put down to poor communication but part of that is because people make personal choices not to comply.
From my perspective they've made very little of that given some of the studies out there about the majority of people skipping quarantine because they feel they're entitled to do frivolous things like going on holiday without having to face consequences that were made clear to them from the outset. Or that even though masks are requested in many fewer places than comparable countries, fewer people have worn them. There's lots of instances to that.
Not pointing them out at all would not be a balanced approach, and given they clearly haven't pointed it out all the time, deciding what the appropriate degree of balance is amounts to little more than quibbling. People need to be reminded of their responsibilities when they don't exercise them in key situations, that's a normal part of society.
UK figures - 87 deaths, 13,864 cases.
does that include the 1080 cases in their 6 county colony of Northern IReland?
Date | England daily | Northern Ireland daily | Scotland daily | Wales daily | England total | Northern Ireland total | Scotland total | Wales total |
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08-10-2020 | 144 | 667 | 262 | 1 | 491,428 | 18,190 | 37,033 | 29,028 |
07-10-2020 | 4,618 | 997 | 1,025 | 164 | 491,284 | 17,523 | 36,771 | 29,027 |
06-10-2020 | 10,638 | 813 | 1,009 | 496 | 486,666 | 16,526 | 35,746 | 28,863 |
05-10-2020 | 13,130 | 760 | 1,067 | 631 | 476,028 | 15,713 | 34,737 | 28,367 |
Wow, I'm sorry you have to suffer through this kind of ordeal.My brother tested positive for Covid 19 a few days after going to university and was showing symptoms. It has been just over a week and my parents are insisting on bringing him back tomorrow from Leicester to a house which contains me, my wife, my four month old and both my parents in their mid 50s. The scary thing is, they see nothing wrong with it and laughed it off.
Luckily, I have managed to get hold of my cousin who is a doctor who has been ridiculously busy throughout the whole pandemic and has worked in Covid 19 wards from the start, to speak with my brother and convince him to quarantine in his uni accommodation another 7 days before coming home.
The absolute state of it, I can’t believe I’ve got to sit down tonight and convince my parents its for the best.
Don’t tell me about it, half of my FB wall is conspiracy nonsense and people want to come out on the streets to protest against masks.Twitter is just absurd at the minute. They need to get back to doing regular Covid briefings because in that absence created you've got the usual charlatan journalists spreading nonsense and twitter is resembling the anti-vaxer movement.
Does anyone have any idea about the overall % of people that had it any country? I know some studies have been done on Stockholm, New York, certain regions of Italy, but nothing nation-wide.
The reason why I am asking is that, with this number of recorded cases again, surely the herd immunity has at least a chance of being accomplished before the vaccine arrives?
Or if not, what is the way out? It has been seven fecking months and I feel no closer to a resolution than in March - this is still something that no one is talking about.
A few weeks ago before it kicked off again it was less than 8%.
When you have well known local gps standing on a soapbox in the middle of Derry’s shopping district spouting Facebook type nonsense about flu being a bigger danger, you can understand why people don’t give a shit. Plus Derry people travel for work to Belfast, Dublin etcCases per 1000 in Norn Iron are off the charts. Some of the very worst in Europe. Apparently nobody knows why. So much for this alleged advantage of being an island.
Does anyone have any idea about the overall % of people that had it any country? I know some studies have been done on Stockholm, New York, certain regions of Italy, but nothing nation-wide.
The reason why I am asking is that, with this number of recorded cases again, surely the herd immunity has at least a chance of being accomplished before the vaccine arrives?
Or if not, what is the way out? It has been seven fecking months and I feel no closer to a resolution than in March - this is still something that no one is talking about.
Sent her in AFTER a positive result?To sum up schools by me at the moment:
The local one has just had every single member of the English department test positive. 40+ kids have got it.
Another school by me have all of Year 11 off after six confirmed cases, most of Year 9 off after three confirmed cases and half of Year 7 off after two.
There has been a big argument on the local Facebook group as it’s just been confirmed another school nearby has had a Year 10 girl confirmed as being positive on Snapchat but her parents sent her in.
When you have well known local gps standing on a soapbox in the middle of Derry’s shopping district spouting Facebook type nonsense about flu being a bigger danger, you can understand why people don’t give a shit. Plus Derry people travel for work to Belfast, Dublin etc
Don’t know if you saw Dr Black on RTE tonight live from Derry? He said people are continuing with communions etc, hugging each other with no masks in sight. The buck stops with the people
Sounds like Derry Girls was more realistic than I first thought.When you have well known local gps standing on a soapbox in the middle of Derry’s shopping district spouting Facebook type nonsense about flu being a bigger danger, you can understand why people don’t give a shit. Plus Derry people travel for work to Belfast, Dublin etc
Don’t know if you saw Dr Black on RTE tonight live from Derry? He said people are continuing with communions etc, hugging each other with no masks in sight. The buck stops with the people
1400 out of 38,000 enrolled at that particular Uni thought.It is. Although there’s apparently well over 2 million students at universities in the UK. So still just a drop in the ocean.
Cases per 1000 in Norn Iron are off the charts. Some of the very worst in Europe. Apparently nobody knows why. So much for this alleged advantage of being an island.
I've alot of friends in the border areas and they are all saying the same. Nobody cares there.
I’ve heard similar stories. And geebs said the same thing. It’s weird though. Why are they being so reckless compared to the rest of Europe?
Since the pandemic started, I've watched Mass online every week from lots of different Irish churches. They're all observing the measures of mask-wearing, distancing, hand-sanitising, they're not passing the collection around or having the congregation singing. No handshakes, either.When you have well known local gps standing on a soapbox in the middle of Derry’s shopping district spouting Facebook type nonsense about flu being a bigger danger, you can understand why people don’t give a shit. Plus Derry people travel for work to Belfast, Dublin etc
Don’t know if you saw Dr Black on RTE tonight live from Derry? He said people are continuing with communions etc, hugging each other with no masks in sight. The buck stops with the people
Deprived areas, lack of investment, high unemployment, feck all to do apart from reading shite on FB and the likesI’ve heard similar stories. And geebs said the same thing. It’s weird though. Why are they being so reckless compared to the rest of Europe?
Im in a border area. Its a shitshow.I've alot of friends in the border areas and they are all saying the same. Nobody cares there.
It was very unfortunate that the end of the first wave coincided with the start of the summer months, at least in the northern hemisphere. It was just the wrong time, because warm weather and long daylight hours will definitely get people out, particularly if they've felt confined for a few months before that.4.8k cases today from 30k tests, highest since pandemic started. We were on 4k yesterday with 44k cases so it’s getting much worse. 52 people dead today, almost 200 in the last 3 days. I fear to think what the numbers will be like in 2-3 weeks. I was wondering all Summer how cases were not going up with virtually no restrictions, probably was the weather or the fact people had been traveling all over the place so hardly in large groups at the same time. We will certainly surpass 100 deaths a day and people on the Internet are laughing about ‘fake pandemic’. I want to vomit.