Is that because the US health system doesn't afford the everyday person a free test and consultancy?
SARS CoV-2 coronavirus / Covid-19 (No tin foil hat silliness please)
- Thread starter Don't Kill Bill
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Indeed. It started from one person in Italy, I don't think it's realistic to at this point aim to control everyone unless you are using extreme methods. People will still be locked at home with other people, so for families of 6 you'd basically be looking at closing them down for three months, considering one can get it from the other... and that is even disregarding the possibility of getting infected twice, which has apparently happened.
Sorry, it was totally in jest and in relation to this: https://www.redcafe.net/threads/help-ive-ran-over-both-of-my-neighbours-cats-2-days-in-a-row.453635/
The US is taking heavy blows now to what we care about the most ($) before this virus has even exploded here.
The spring holiday season looms large...
The spring holiday season looms large...
I hope that the Cobra meeting leads to some hard ass measures, economy be damned.
Really don't want to hear flippancy from Boris
Really don't want to hear flippancy from Boris
Sounds like you both need to search for some middle ground.
Yeah I'm waiting to see what they say. As I work for the County Council if the advice is to work from home then I expect we'll go along with it. Certainly puts the hotdesking policy into perspective. Always thought that was a terrible idea.
According to the Beeb nothing is going to change after this Cobra meeting, we'll just be expected to take care of ourselves so the economy doesn't get hurt. Sounds about right for this lot.
This is pretty scary stuff, mainly because the hospital I’m currently working for the past two weeks barely had any beds, and so many people just in AE corridors and no place for them to be seen.
NHS is barely coping as it is, I honestly can’t imagine what it’s going to be like even if 10-20% of the UK population get this, let alone the projections that are coming out.
NHS is barely coping as it is, I honestly can’t imagine what it’s going to be like even if 10-20% of the UK population get this, let alone the projections that are coming out.
It'll all be for nothing though. Outside of mass transit the biggest problem area for spreading surely has to be schools?
But if they close the schools then they'll have millions of parents who have to stay at home instead of go into work, and we can't have that.
If the kids get it the parents get it simple as that, then you have the bigger problem of older relatives getting it. Government hoping that they can contain it and will only shut schools at the very, very last minute.
Absolutely utterly disgraceful if so.
Indeed. And now we're praying that the same Government who've left the NHS in this state can act to save lives.
It's so sad to see the country in this state. And I guess this, ultimately, is where greedy leadership ends up when met with brutal, unrelenting force of nature.
For context, chances of dying:
Catching COVID-19 aged 10-40 = 1 in 500
Hang gliding = 1 in 560
Those odds aren't too terrible.
Unfortunately, if you are over the age of 70 and catch COVID-19, your chances of dying are comparable to those of someone climbing above 6000m in the Himalayas (approximately 1 in 10).
I think its important to remember no country is anywhere near 10% of the population getting this.
Do you have a source for this? I've doubts about this claim.
My firm are also being a bit frustrating on this.
We got an email about the actions we can take, and it was 4 points all of which covered different ways we can 'support our clients'.
It wasn't the only email we've gotten on the matter, but none of them have been direct advice on how individual employees can protect themselves.
We got an email about the actions we can take, and it was 4 points all of which covered different ways we can 'support our clients'.
It wasn't the only email we've gotten on the matter, but none of them have been direct advice on how individual employees can protect themselves.
Well your odds of dying from hang gliding are precisely zero if you don't go hang gliding in the first place.
Those numbers include people living in China.
Aslong as you haven't been China, those odds decrease significantly.
Also just how full on is the Milan lockdown?
Is it to the point even AC and Inter players can't leave for away games? Or away teams come to The San Siro.
Is it to the point even AC and Inter players can't leave for away games? Or away teams come to The San Siro.
0.2% death rate in that age group according to ~50,000 Chinese cases. However those figures never said whether those people were otherwise healthy.
It's not really a lockdown, despite the media reports. Trains are still running, planes are still flying, roads are still open. Only now apparently the police/army can ask you why you are travelling and stop you if you don't have a valid reason, but i have not yet heard of that happening to anybody i know. I actually think it would be better if they were blocking main roads to make it more difficult for people to move around.
The main difference is everybody is at home now. All companies have to offer home working from today and people are being told (not forced) to stay home as much as possible, and all restaurants/cafes have to close at 6pm.
You can still come and go for important work reasons and Serie A games would count as that.
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https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-age-sex-demographics/
I've been on this daily since it started, its updated regularly, its not right using an out and out mortality rate for Corona.
AGE | DEATH RATE confirmed cases | DEATH RATE all cases |
80+ years old | 21.9% | 14.8% |
70-79 years old | | 8.0% |
60-69 years old | | 3.6% |
50-59 years old | | 1.3% |
40-49 years old | | 0.4% |
30-39 years old | | 0.2% |
20-29 years old | | 0.2% |
10-19 years old | | 0.2% |
| 0-9 years old | | no fatalities |
That is the data from the Chinese CDC. The mortality rate for that age group was 0.2%. See the table under 'Prognosis', here:
https://emcrit.org/ibcc/covid19/
Thank you for this. I've been searching for something like that.
Its a really informative site, shows daily the hotspots and new cases. Probably the best page of the site for ongoing information, based country by country, Spain is the latest European country to see a massive spike in cases.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries
Have no idea why. The mayor of NYC has requested to reduce public transport use and my company comes up with business as usual notice, when more than 75% of staff can work from home.
So yeah, still in the containment phase apparently. Not exactly clear on what measures are being put in place to contain anything but there you go. I feel like it's bury your head in the sand and hope for the best.
2 suspected cases at one of the schools I work at, parent of one of them is a TA here.. Not sure if shes in or not.
UK government still sitting on there hands.
UK government still sitting on there hands.
Advice on large gatherings remains unchanged 
1 confirmed case at my company. The person has not been at work in 2 weeks though. About 60 confirmed cases in the area of my medium sized city in total, well well well...
I am genuinely flabbergasted.Advice on large gatherings remains unchanged
Surely they have to be in the delay phase now?! Ridiculous to still be in the containment phase but also accept that the virus will spread significantly.
Don't know where this is from but this is ridiculous!
Also, South Korea appear to be reducing the number of new cases and they have quite a low death rate.
Spain getting hit hard now 326 new cases, totalling 1000 in total, thats 1000 cases in 2 weeks.
Depends on how many cases we have today I guess. If there’s a decrease then that may be enough for them to wait a little longer. Also we don’t now know how many new cases have ties to previous. If there’s a confirmed case, I’d expect family/close contacts to be tested anyway so if they are part of the further spread, it’s less of an issue that community transmission.
There won't be. This won't be brought under control until the Government actually does something.
Like when they stepped in to prop up banks that were going under - now they are needed to step in and prop up the national Healthcare system, if they don't lives will be lost.
so what exactly was the point of that Cobra meeting? waste of time.
The UK is still in the contain phase, but it is accepted that the disease will spread at speed.
what a non-sensical statement.
The UK is still in the contain phase, but it is accepted that the disease will spread at speed.
what a non-sensical statement.
1 in 10 people die over 6000m in the Himalayas? Jaysus.
My Italian boss just came back from Northern Italy (well 7 days ago) and 2 people in the city where I work have the virus.
Don't post anything near me.
Don't post anything near me.