Sancho won’t return to Man Utd until he's ready - Way too much inappropriate speculation.

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Based on pure speculation. Many were saying Rashford was dealing with similar last season based on sweet eff all as well. And he ended up coming out a month or two back and basically saying he wasn’t in the right frame of mind to succeed then.

It comes down to coping and doing your bloody job like everyone else on the planet has to. And that’s assuming he is dealing with depression or summat which is still unconfirmed.

Kids these days. Soft as feck.

I feel like you've held back on what you really wanted to say; "what a bunch of snowflakes".
 
I appreciate Ten Hag appreciating the mental aspect of the players.
 
I generally like Ten Haag’s Dutch bluntness but maybe he could have been a bit more discrete? I wonder how Sancho feels about that level of detail reaching the press?

I think it's good, raises wider awareness and stops people being dicks "Where is Sancho?" constantly or when he comes back and isn't 100% "He's shit" etc. which wouldn't help

I think this way people are more likely to give him space
 
I feel like you've held back on what you really wanted to say; "what a bunch of snowflakes".

I know. It wasn’t a very nice thing to say was it. So I must be a right wing wacko.

Bless.
 
Some serious lack of empathy and emotional intelligence by a few posters. Thank God our manager has both and is renowned for looking after his players and being well sought after and respected by them. Especially the younger ones.

Absolutely, tbh there’s been some shocking posts in this thread alone that show how rubbish some football fans are as people, frankly.
 
That doesn't sound good. It is good that the club are giving him some time to get his head right. I thought there was some issue, because he had supposedly been 'ill' for quite a while.

I hope his mental health improves soon. It is quite clear that playing for this club is mentally very difficult.
 
There's clearly something not right and for whatever reason it wasn't getting fixed at Carrington with the rest of the squad.

I trust the boss to do what's best. Sancho is a long term investment, we should do whatever is needed to get him firing on all cylinders.
 
Based on pure speculation. Many were saying Rashford was dealing with similar last season based on sweet eff all as well. And he ended up coming out a month or two back and basically saying he wasn’t in the right frame of mind to succeed then.

It comes down to coping and doing your bloody job like everyone else on the planet has to. And that’s assuming he is dealing with depression or summat which is still unconfirmed.

Kids these days. Soft as feck.

Idiotic post but that's the state of some posters these days.
 
Mental health issues are seriously under-communicated in football or sports in general. At least publicly.

I hope this is a case of a player being honest and seeking help early and the club dealing with the situation competently, rather than being such a severe case that it can't be ignored.
 
Absolutely, tbh there’s been some shocking posts in this thread alone that show how rubbish some football fans are as people, frankly.

Exactly. There’s a thread about the toxic culture at the club active at the moment..

Newsflash!

You are part of the problem you moaning toxic bastards!
 
I’m glad he’s getting the support he needs. He can be a difference maker when he’s at it. Health over football always.

Only thing I’d say is it wise to broadcast he’s suffering mentally? Could that have an adverse affect on him?
 
I mean is referring to people as ‘wackos’ what they teach in Psychology these days at degree level @EtH ?

You need to get a refund.
 
I’m glad he’s getting the support he needs. He can be a difference maker when he’s at it. Health over football always.

Only thing I’d say is it wise to broadcast he’s suffering mentally? Could that have an adverse affect on him?

I’m sure it’s been done in discussion with him and the topic is not to be frowned upon as it has been historically.
 
We've technically bought a bust if the mental health issues are to be believed.


From experience people with proper mental health problems, never really are right no matter what help they seek, it's a lifetime of healing and relapsing.


Real shame he all the talent in the world.

Let's hope it's not too serious
 
Absolutely, tbh there’s been some shocking posts in this thread alone that show how rubbish some football fans are as people, frankly.

Nah, I think these things are hard to understand. They haven't been dealt with before and disguised as something else. X has ‘glandular fever’ or whatever. ‘Post-Covid’. An infection that won’t let go.

There is just little awareness of it.

If you don’t deal with it, you get a player that shies away from situations that the player finds stress full. You get a player that won’t be in great shape at times. You get a player that perhaps develop issues outside the game.

Part of dealing with them is surely to not sweep it under the rug and treat it like it’s some tabu weakness of the player. Will that result in that 20% think they are snowflakes? Perhaps, but it’s better than the alternative.
 
I think it's good, raises wider awareness and stops people being dicks "Where is Sancho?" constantly or when he comes back and isn't 100% "He's shit" etc. which wouldn't help

I think this way people are more likely to give him space
You’re not actually reading this thread are you?
 
They give degrees out for fun these days. Not sure what that proves tbh.

You also don’t need emotional intelligence to get one..

It's a weird flex for sure. I worked with psychologists in my last job and an undergraduate degree means very little in the grand scheme of things. To be a fully trained psychologist you need further qualifications and several years of experience, which is often quite difficult to get because it's a very over-subscribed field with few positions available. Particularly if you want to be a clinical psychologist, the type who work in the NHS.

I work at a university now and our social science department is easily the biggest school in terms of students. The most popular course? Psychology, of course.
 
It's a weird flex for sure. I worked with psychologists in my last job and an undergraduate degree means very little in the grand scheme of things. To be a fully trained psychologist you need further qualifications and several years of experience, which is often quite difficult to get because it's a very over-subscribed field with few positions available. Particularly if you want to be a clinical psychologist, the type who work in the NHS.

Ironically I work at a university now and our social science department is easily the biggest school in terms of students. The most popular course? Psychology, of course.

I’ve upset the OP but they were trying to be Bertie Big Bollocks so meh.

Obviously achieving a degree is an accomplishment and can take plenty of hard work and dedication but it is certainly not what it once was in terms of prestige nor does it make you an oracle not to be questioned on a subject.

You’re spot on in terms of the need to acquire work based experience and supplementary qualifications these days in order to really round your development and practical understanding.

This also helps you stand out amongst the growing sea of degree level candidates.
 
Loving the passive aggression.

I’m loving the salty pile-on due to me simply stating the obvious. There is no evidence of any sort that this is a mental health issue. Never mind the fact that we’re talking about a player with a history of attitude and fitness issues. He doesn’t look up to it and feels he isn’t up to it. As a few posters who aren’t complete sheep said, it is a total crisis of confidence.

The irony is that what I’ve said is far nicer than what you and any of the other supposedly empathetic Caftards who are ridiculing me are spouting. Just assuming that a young lad who’s struggling to deal with the adversity of a new challenge has mental health issues is actually hurtful. And beyond stupid.
 
I’m loving the salty pile-on due to me simply stating the obvious. There is no evidence of any sort that this is a mental health issue. Never mind the fact that we’re talking about a player with a history of attitude and fitness issues. He doesn’t look up to it and feels he isn’t up to it. As a few posters who aren’t complete sheep said, it is a total crisis of confidence.

The irony is that what I’ve said is far nicer than what you and any of the other supposedly empathetic Caftards who are ridiculing me are spouting. Just assuming that a young lad who’s struggling to deal with the adversity of a new challenge has mental health issues is actually hurtful. And beyond stupid.

why have you decided to label them soft as feck then when there is no evidence that it is or isn’t mental health issues? Aren’t you also assuming?
 
why have you decided to label them soft as feck then when there is no evidence that it is or isn’t mental health issues? Aren’t you also assuming?

Yeah, there are two very obvious camps here. Split according to preconceived notions about Sancho. He’s either a diligent pro who’s been laid low by mental illness or a soft twat who isn’t putting the effort in.

The truth is no doubt somewhere in between…
 
why have you decided to label them soft as feck then when there is no evidence that it is or isn’t mental health issues? Aren’t you also assuming?

His work ethic has already been questioned by Pep. That is evidence. It is also an issue of players making the big bucks younger and younger these days. It can go either way. Some players like Mbappe and Haaland have a singular focus while others aren’t willing to put in the work or don’t have the mentality for it or both.
 
I’m loving the salty pile-on due to me simply stating the obvious. There is no evidence of any sort that this is a mental health issue. Never mind the fact that we’re talking about a player with a history of attitude and fitness issues. He doesn’t look up to it and feels he isn’t up to it. As a few posters who aren’t complete sheep said, it is a total crisis of confidence.

The irony is that what I’ve said is far nicer than what you and any of the other supposedly empathetic Caftards who are ridiculing me are spouting. Just assuming that a young lad who’s struggling to deal with the adversity of a new challenge has mental health issues is actually hurtful. And beyond stupid.
You’re framing people being concerned for a player’s mental well-being as hurtful or offensive? It’s 2022 mate, mental health isn’t anything to be embarrassed about.
 
I’m loving the salty pile-on due to me simply stating the obvious. There is no evidence of any sort that this is a mental health issue. Never mind the fact that we’re talking about a player with a history of attitude and fitness issues. He doesn’t look up to it and feels he isn’t up to it. As a few posters who aren’t complete sheep said, it is a total crisis of confidence.

The irony is that what I’ve said is far nicer than what you and any of the other supposedly empathetic Caftards who are ridiculing me are spouting. Just assuming that a young lad who’s struggling to deal with the adversity of a new challenge has mental health issues is actually hurtful. And beyond stupid.

I mean feck me, you have absolutely no inside information on it, yet have happily jumped to the assumption he’s soft as feck.
If you have a degree in psychology, I’m an astronaut.
 
Yeah, there are two very obvious camps here. Split according to preconceived notions about Sancho. He’s either a diligent pro who’s been laid low by mental illness or a soft twat who isn’t putting the effort in.

The truth is no doubt somewhere in between…
Stop being so basic Pogue
 
I’m loving the salty pile-on due to me simply stating the obvious. There is no evidence of any sort that this is a mental health issue. Never mind the fact that we’re talking about a player with a history of attitude and fitness issues. He doesn’t look up to it and feels he isn’t up to it. As a few posters who aren’t complete sheep said, it is a total crisis of confidence.

The irony is that what I’ve said is far nicer than what you and any of the other supposedly empathetic Caftards who are ridiculing me are spouting. Just assuming that a young lad who’s struggling to deal with the adversity of a new challenge has mental health issues is actually hurtful. And beyond stupid.

Hang on. What's a total crisis of confidence if it isn't a mental health issue? If I had a total crisis of confidence at my workplace I'd be happy to say I'm struggling with my mental health (not because it's trendy but rather because there's few other ways to categorise it).
 
His work ethic has already been questioned by Pep. That is evidence. It is also an issue of players making the big bucks younger and younger these days. It can go either way. Some players like Mbappe and Haaland have a singular focus while others aren’t willing to put in the work or don’t have the mentality for it or both.

That’s evidence for him not having mental health issues? Are you sure you have a psychology degree?
 
You’re framing people being concerned for a player’s mental well-being as hurtful or offensive? It’s 2022 mate, mental health isn’t anything to be embarrassed about.

Yes, it’s almost 2023. And it’s fancy and all you saying that but stigma is still a very real thing.
 
Yes, it’s almost 2023. And it’s fancy and all you saying that but stigma is still a very real thing.
So in this thread we have people who have broken that stigma and openly discussing mental health in a positive fashion and you think we should stop that because… stigma still exists. Where did you get your degree?
 
So in this thread we have people who have broken that stigma and openly discussing mental health in a positive fashion and you think we should stop that because… stigma still exists. Where did you get your degree?
University of Life
 
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