Sancho won’t return to Man Utd until he's ready - Way too much inappropriate speculation.

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Really hope he's OK. The pressure of joining a club like United must be absolutely enormous and not everyone is built to be able to handle that.

Nevermind his United career, but his football career will be interesting to follow after this. There's a very real possibility he never turns his United career around, I wonder if he'd be able to turn it around elsewhere. Or I wonder if he's one of those footballers that doesn't really fancy it like Danny Rose.
 
MrSingh2002 said:
The take home is that Ten Hag won't accept any passengers and I welcome the approach. Too many managers weren't ruthless enough to create exactly what they want or go against highly paid players. He's actively going against alot of ours. If De Gea, Sancho or Maguire are to be replaced in our squad I'd bet the replacements are exceptional for us.
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Oh they will be replaced but maybe its a coincedence with the World Cup break but ETH taking this extra step with Sancho (recommending coaches to work with on a specific program) looks more like a salvage job, an intervention of sorts on a player he admires but sees on a downward spiral. If he didnt care he wouldn't have attempted to arrest the slide this way.
 
afatzp said:
Whether Sancho is on 250K / week or 350K , the fact is he is one of top earners in the league. Only those deliver top performance whatsoever rise to the top of pyramid and earn the most. That's how competitive sport works. If you did not deliver top performance, you are under-performed towards your level.

It is just nonsense that we have to keep giving Sancho leeway or excuse to explain his under-performance. At the end of the day, EPL is a paid entertainment; supporting a local team might add a layer of emotional connection, but it should be no difference with paying ticket/subscription fee to watch a movie. If an actor in the movie performed terribly and ruin the movie, audiences have all the rights to feel disappointed and criticize the actor, especially those earned big to lead the line of the show. I really don't care what happened behind the scene; it is all about what you bring on the table to serve your audiences.

Sancho has ben such disappointment by far since he joined . It is already 2nd season with the 3rd coach around , and he still did not sort himself out and find a way to deliver. Now to put in short, he is expelled from the team to regroup when we need him the most to carry. Some of the posts here pretend they have the most sympathy and seize the high ground to accuse those showing anything less, it is ridiculous.
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So, what you're saying is he's a lazy fekker who needs to stop pissing about and just get on with it, especially because he earns a lot of money.
 
I don’t know much about his personal circumstances, but surely the whole pressure and criticism thing isn’t any more than the likes of Maguire, Rashford, and many others have suffered?
 
Zen86 said:
I don’t know much about his personal circumstances, but surely the whole pressure and criticism thing isn’t any more than the likes of Maguire, Rashford, and many others have suffered?
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Less if anything while others have taken all the flak. It went under the radar how poor he was last season while all the focus was on Ronaldo, Maguire and Rashford.
 
Zen86 said:
I don’t know much about his personal circumstances, but surely the whole pressure and criticism thing isn’t any more than the likes of Maguire, Rashford, and many others have suffered?
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And the great thing with humans is we all react exactly the same to every single scenario placed upon us.
 
Do we even have anything to suggest he is facing mental issues? To me (baseless opinion), his spell at the club has been pretty disastrous so far and our coaching staff are probably not that impressed with him in terms of performances. IF it's mental issues, that's very worrying considering he wasn't even the one getting all the criticism, he was being shielded from most of it because he was our shiny new toy while everyone else got the blame so if he cannot handle that, no way he is gonna succeed here.
 
dove said:
Do we even have anything to suggest he is facing mental issues? To me (baseless opinion), his spell at the club has been pretty disastrous so far and our coaching staff are probably not that impressed with him in terms of performances. IF it's mental issues, that's very worrying considering he wasn't even the one getting all the criticism, he was being shielded from most of it because he was our shiny new toy while everyone else got the blame so if he cannot handle that, no way he is gonna succeed here.
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There's no proof of any mental issues, other than the manager saying he's up not to task mentally and physically. His fanboys want to drill home the idea he's mentally ill to make excuses for his poor performances, even though he's been sent to train alone in isolation somewhere Holland as if that's the best medicine you give to someone struggling with mental problems
 
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Luka Mora said:
There's no proof of any mental issues, other than the manager saying he's up to task mentally and physically. His fanboys want to drill home the idea he's mentally ill to make excuses for his poor performances, even though he's been sent to train alone in isolation somewhere Holland as if that's the best medicine you give to someone struggling with mental problems
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Come again.
 
i’m glad ten hag out and end to all the mindless speculation earlier when he came out and said jadon’s having a simple penis enlargement procedure and will be back playing once he’s able to sling dick again.
 
Bubz27 said:
And the great thing with humans is we all react exactly the same to every single scenario placed upon us.
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And the ones who don’t react particularly well are probably not suitable for football at the highest level?
 
If he thought he would turn up, put up shit performance week on week and get away with it, he sure has had a reality check now.

Good luck on him fighting back into the team, hope he has the stomach for it if not it would be another waste of talent not to mention waste of time and investment.
 
Zen86 said:
And the ones who don’t react particularly well are probably not suitable for football at the highest level?
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You know people can improve and learn right? That's kind of why there are jobs like sports psychiatry around?

You don't write off a multi million pound investment without trying to help it work.
 
Bubz27 said:
You know people can improve and learn right? That's kind of why there are jobs like sports psychiatry around?

You don't write off a multi million pound investment without trying to help it work.
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I’m not writing him off, but it certainly doesn’t bode well that he’s struggling to cope with the same kind of things many other players face, and often to a worse degree. Again, assuming there’s not other stuff behind the scenes.
 
Zen86 said:
I’m not writing him off, but it certainly doesn’t bode well that he’s struggling to cope with the same kind of things many other players face, and often to a worse degree. Again, assuming there’s not other stuff behind the scenes.
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Yeah but you're speaking like others know how to deal with that from the get go, when in reality they've all probably developed the ability to deal with the pressures and the mental stresses it brings, which is what it seems Sancho is doing now.

If that is indeed the issue in the first place.
 
I hope he is ok. He’s a young lad and has had immense pressure put on him. We forget sometimes these players are humans like us.
 
Preying he comes back stronger and gets back to the form he showed at Dortmund. Can’t see it happening as I don’t think he was ready for a massive club like United but let’s hope….!
 
It really could be for any one of a number of reasons why his head isn’t in the game. The manager was actually quite vague which is fine. It might have little to do with mental health and more to do with below par strength and fitness or slack behaviour. He could be developing bad habits or problems off the pitch or with teammates. This is probably just the best way to shield a player until he is ready is give it another shot. We will hear more about it from Sancho at some point anyway I’m sure.
 
Zippycup said:
There's a close relationship between sleep and mental health.
Most agree that the inability to 'switch off' is the number 1 sign off mental issues.
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Zippycup said:
There's a close relationship between sleep and mental health.
Most agree that the inability to 'switch off' is the number 1 sign off mental issues.
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This is 100% correct, from personal experience. I have type 1 bipolar disorder, which causes extreme insomnia and that's how it was diagnosed.

You feel unable to sleep so you try to do other things to distract you. Then you get afraid that it's got so late you'll fall asleep and miss the whole day so you end up staying awake.

Healthy sleep is critical for everyone regardless of their job, money etc
 
Luka Mora said:
I meant to say the manager said he's not up to task physically and mentally
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:lol: Read what you actually said, and consider the fact that it is also true

‘There's no proof of any mental issues, other than the manager saying’

If only we had better proof than the manager confirming it :confused:
 
Zen86 said:
And the ones who don’t react particularly well are probably not suitable for football at the highest level?
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In the last 18 months I’ve watched another sportsman take 6 of those off recovering from mental health problems, come back, be named captain of his country in a sport where captain is way bigger than in football, changing the form from I think it was 1 win in 17 to 8 wins in 9, and play a starring role in winning his country a World Cup.

Stop talking about things you don’t understand with such conviction.
 
phelans shorts said:
In the last 18 months I’ve watched another sportsman take 6 of those off recovering from mental health problems, come back, be named captain of his country in a sport where captain is way bigger than in football, changing the form from I think it was 1 win in 17 to 8 wins in 9, and play a starring role in winning his country a World Cup.

Stop talking about things you don’t understand with such conviction.
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What conviction? :lol:
 
How the frick has this topic reached 18 pages, do I really have to go through them all or can I expect you all be just have been posting 18 pages of Get Well Soon and Be Back Stronger messages :wub: ?
 
Obviously, the world cup snub hasn't been a positive thing for him and people are writing him off like he's never showed his potential. I recall just this season, in an epic game against Liverpool, watching Sancho send the entire Liverpool defence for a hot dog, and calmly slot the ball into their net.

If Ten Hag thinks he needs an extra bit of love, then it's all good by me. He will come back better for it. People forget, but Fergie sent Rooney off to the US for a few weeks, back in 2010/11. He came back super lean, like he'd had a torso transplant. And then he went on a mad scoring run. Including the overhead goal against City. He probably had his best season for us.
 
Jeppers7 said:
:lol: Read what you actually said, and consider the fact that it is also true

‘There's no proof of any mental issues, other than the manager saying’

If only we had better proof than the manager confirming it :confused:
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There's a difference between being mentally ill and not being in the right frame of mind. The manager did not confirm he had mental illness, simply that they don't know why his quality levels is dropped and is unfit and are trying to get him back to a respectable level so he can be fit and mentally focused. You don't send someone who is mentally unwell to a training camp in another cold country in the middle of winter in insolation. If he was genuinely suffering from mental illness they would give him leave.


''I don't think he will be back this week, no,' said Ten Hag. 'We want to bring him back as quickly as possible, but I can't give a prognosis of when that will be. Sometimes there are circumstances with fitness and mood. We got a drop of quality level and sometimes you don't know why or what is causing it.

'That is what we are doing now to try to get him back there. It is a combination of physically and mentally.'

Bunch of drama queens
 
Leftback99 said:
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2010/nov/05/wayne-rooney-nike-town-manchester-united

https://metro.co.uk/2010/11/05/wayne-rooney-sent-to-us-for-a-week-to-work-on-his-fitness-571824/

What's the difference?
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Rooney was mentally ill, he was still suffering from the world cup where the england fans jeered the team off the pitch that's why they was sent away to Netherland. It had nothing to to do with turning up to pre-season unfit, and needing to work on his fitness and being out of form at the time. Didn't you see the signs?
 
He's only 22.. I'm sure he can turn it around.
If not, he'll have to go back abroad and do his thing
 
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