You clearly excelled at comprehension in school, Since you can't tell the difference between abuse and constructive criticism and a call to action.
Sancho won’t return to Man Utd until he's ready - Way too much inappropriate speculation.
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messaging Sancho that is insane and makes you a right weirdo.
there were so many points at which you could have stopped and thought about what you were doing - but you went ahead with it. wild
If that’s Sancho at his best then we really should just give up now and sell him while we can still get some of the fee back. Honestly, that’s one of the least inspiring highlight videos I’ve ever seen.
I think you meant well buddy, we all want Sancho to succeed at Utd. It's not worthy of the derision you've received, just a bit odd.
A bit harsh, it's not the best highlight video given Dortmund lost 2-0 but Sancho had a decent game. If I remember right he was the only one playing fairly well in that loss to PSG, while his team mates all looked sub par so difficult to have a spectacular highlight video from that match. They were simply worse than PSG.
Read it again mate. I do empathise with you a bit. I think people are too harsh in their criticism of you as silly as that DM was. What I couldn’t understand was your decision to copy and paste that message here. I mean why? You are smart enough to know that what would happen. Right? That was my point.
And no, I’m not judging you nor I think you are toxic. I have no reason to doubt your love for the club so we are good there.
I love reading threads where based on feck all, people have these crazy theories assuming so many things regarding the footballer. Why do you guys do that ? I hope he comes back with his best form.
Just out of interest, two genuine questions - do you see any issues with messaging Jadon directly with criticism? Would you message other players in the future?
Only you opened your message about this with "I may have contributed to him coming off social media" - that to me strikes me that you probably do see the fault in messaging players directly I hope?! Honestly just take the flak on the chin and move on, it was a bit of a daft thing to do.
However if you say you would message other players in the future though then yeah unfortunately I do believe that to be a bit toxic, sorry.
That clip is good as it's not against german dross teams which there is plenty of compilations of him destroying.
The PSG one just shows him taking charge of situations or what ETH describes "finding solutions" when usual passing lanes aren't open, operating at consistent high intensity on and off the ball making darting runs and never being static or slowing it down unless looking for a third man run slicing pass which was one of his specialities at dortmund.
@Luka Mora is right mostly, using pace to beat an opponent or penetrate in behind has never been key to his game, he is not a Rashford/Leao/Mane/Salah athlete profile although I don't see why he couldn't adapt a bit as he is not a total slouch in pace terms he just needs strength and conditioning on his core which he is presumably getting some of in netherlands atm.
He is much more of a wide link-up playmaker profile like Mata when he came here, Mkhitaryan type, doesnt generate enough power in his ball striking to consistently threaten the goal from range or with pace in transition, but thrives in possesion based overload situations. He actually suits #10 or a free role better truthfully where he can drift to pockets, jink and use his mazy dribbling and cute short passing without needing pace.
This clip below perfectly illustrates the issues he was facing last season that has also bled into this one where what @Luka Mora said is right, that he has actually been trying to do what he was used to, but it was not coming off, although last year it had a lot to do with his team mates not being on his wavelength. This year he has had good games actually where he does drop a shoulder and "find a solution" himself instead of passing it back when movement is not happening around him, but not to ETH liking obviously.
That is what makes this year with ETH slightly odd as Sancho natural game actually suits ETH positional attacking system very well he is technical and secure in possession and can work overload situations and deliver chipped passes through the lines to runners - Like Garnacho did to Mctominay for that recent goal. Also why I found it odd him not rejoining the group and missing this Burnley game, link-up play comes from team training not solo..
I do actually see a future for Sancho in our team as he is clearly very talented and adding physical power and endurance is the easier side when you already have the footballing brain. The only problem for him is his bed has already been made with the Antony signing as he was originally signed as our RW of course. Unless Antony now goes on to be a flop, Sancho is not starting in our first 11 which from where he was 18 months ago, is already quite a fall from grace. I don't mind him being a first/second sub to change games and rest our starters, although you ideally want power/pace or passing range coming on which we don't have much of atm.
Honestly can see ETH just wanting to move him on eventually to recoup a fee the way things are going at the moment, will only get harder to recover from this situation after January/Gakpo and in summer getting more frontline reinforcement.
He’s a class player and will come good. I have no doubt.
probably naive but I’m hoping Martial and Rashford can solve our no.9 issue, freeing up Jadon to play on the left with Antony on the right.
probably naive but I’m hoping Martial and Rashford can solve our no.9 issue, freeing up Jadon to play on the left with Antony on the right.
Not saying he’s autistic. I’m saying you have no idea what the kid is dealing with… only he and potentially the club know. If it is mental health issues, it’s best those are worked through with a therapist. We all want what is best for the club and Jadon Sancho. The club feels this is the best way to get him back on track. What purpose does it serve to criticize him and the club?
Jesus Christ
That's nothing. In fact it's pleasant considering what's usually said online. And he's gone and tried to motivate him.
If he can't handle that then he probably needs additional professional help to do so.
No dude, that was very very weird.You people are seriously making a huge deal out of this.
It's the very idea of DMing a player something like this at all. It's an odd move.
Indeed - i'd say it's incredibly scummy personally. What gives you the right to personally message another human being messages which put them down just because you think if they can't take it they shouldn't be here. Honestly the fecking delusions of some people just because they have access to social media. The poster above should be ashamed. He's part of the problem.
Must confess, I did find it really concerning when he signed and then took an extended holiday after his disappointing Euros
An elite player would have surely wanted to get back with a point to prove and hit the ground running
But if anyone can get the best of Sancho then I trust Ten Hag can
An elite player would have surely wanted to get back with a point to prove and hit the ground running
But if anyone can get the best of Sancho then I trust Ten Hag can
You brought up autism based on nothing but your own experience. We may as well start assuming he's got all kinds of different mental illnesses and say he bipolar, psychotic, schizophrenic the whole entire works, even though none of his teammates, close friends in the media have at any one time alluded to him going through mental troubles
No one is criticising the club, they've taken him out of the spotlight for whatever reasons, due to his awful performances, which I think people have a right to call out without having to be guilt tripped into thinking it's down to mental illness
If it comes out officially that he's mentally ill, then yes support him and wish him a speedy recovery, but there is no evidence of that and he is rightly judged as any other player at the club who have been shit.
It's disgraceful not just solely to the poster but fans that uphold this type of behaviour to any spots professional. The most critical individual to Sancho would be the manager and I'm sure not even ETH is using such language and connotations to make a point to his player.
You do have the right, you've said it about 50 fecking times. But at least you're not FrankWhite.
This side plot of the thread may be crazier than the main story. I can't believe the reaction you have gotten to this. Number one, there is pretty much zero chance Sancho read your message, first of all, most of the accounts are run by PR teams, there aren't going to pass that one onto Sancho and tell him, to pay close attention to this one, I think it will help. And even if he did read it, it's spot on, this is valid criticism, and if Sancho couldn't hear that criticism from a fan and move past it then he just clearly isn't cut out for top tier sports.
You're probably right. As if this 22-year-old player, whose career already includes stints at Manchester United, Manchester City and Dortmund, is cut out for 'top tier' sports. It's clearly by total chance he's played for top clubs, picked up international caps and commanded a record-breaking transfer fee. With your vast experience of what it takes to succeed at the very top level as an athlete, I'm convinced there's no chance this is just a dip in form; we should probably DM him our expert analysis now and save him the bother of coming back. Just tell Avram to cancel his contract and add it to the debt.
You, my friend, are an absolute belter.
Mitten and Whitwell said it was worse than publicly acknowledged. There were pictures of him training with wool in his ear but nothing was made of it at the time and it was reported later.
Just to be clear I don't endorse the actions of the other @FrankWhite
He was a kid at City, do you remember him playing in league games in March/April, or Cup semi finals, or competing in 2, 3 4 competitions at a time? No, he was a kid in the academy. He did well at Dortmund, but that's a smaller league, a smaller, club, with nowhere near the expectations, attention, reach and pressure of playing for United.
Sorry, maybe he's cut out for Dortmund, but United is a couple steps up, at least, and not every player has the ability, which in fairness he probably does, or the mental fortitude to make it at that level.
And I think my point is being made by reality, certainly a lot more than your point is being made. Have you ever seen a player have a minor dip in form, and in response the club sends him off to train privately in another country, in a shroud of secrecy, with the aid of physical and psychological experts? Is that something that happens all the time? Clearly he's struggling at United.
I understand you like Sancho, and your butthurt because people are criticizing him, but that's the reality of life. If you can't handle your favorite player being criticized when they don't perform than maybe the internet isn't for you.
You need to calm down and stop getting emotional any time someone makes a point of sancho's poor performances. Unless your a relative of his there is no danger of him reading comments off here and losing confidence. He's been sent away for a reason and that's mainly because he's been garbage ever since he's joined.
Some of the posts in here are worrying.
ETH very guarded post match when asked about Sancho, refusing to give any update or timescale. The longer the silence from the club, the more worrying it gets.
EtH giving absolutely nothing away when asked about Sancho, just a straight ‘No’. I love how blunt he can be.
Alarming, sounds like £80m down the drain
Wait, there is two of you?
Just watched the clip. Near impossible to read the man. It could be something really serious or he's just been massively disappointed in Sancho's fitness.
I sense it's on the more serious side as how long does he really need to build up fitness? He was first spotted in the Netherlands a month ago. If it was just a fitness issue surely he doesn't need a couple of months?
Is it safe to say Rashford and Lingard were a huge part of the pull towards the club for Sancho? The so-called ‘Vibes FC’.
All 3 of those players now have had off the field issues, makes you wonder what sort of connection there is between these issues.
More to do with the lack of leadership and team spirit that has surrounded the club I guess, and the mentality fragility that then leads to for our players.
In fact, even the likes Pogba, Ronaldo, Greenwood, Maguire. So many individual sagas that this club has had to deal with in recent years. Feels like our players are always in the spotlight
All 3 of those players now have had off the field issues, makes you wonder what sort of connection there is between these issues.
More to do with the lack of leadership and team spirit that has surrounded the club I guess, and the mentality fragility that then leads to for our players.
In fact, even the likes Pogba, Ronaldo, Greenwood, Maguire. So many individual sagas that this club has had to deal with in recent years. Feels like our players are always in the spotlight
What issues did rashford have?
Not sure about that, there are probably a couple surgeons and such on here. Footballers will be tweeted at incessantly but I'm not sure that's more pressure than having someone's life or livelihood in your hands.
I would imagine that supporters of every big club feel the same. Footballers tend to make news, usually for doing things that most people do normally without comment (get a new gf, have a bad couple months at work, crash a car etc).
As Jadon Sancho scores again……
would you say the same if he had a hamstring injury that kept him out 2 months?
depression/anxiety or whatever it is that’s bothering him can be just as disabling. He is still a young man so has time to work on these issues, get himself in a good shape mentally and physically and get back on track.
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