Get out of here with the kind of sensible posts.
Sancho won’t return to Man Utd until he's ready - Way too much inappropriate speculation.
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Most likely. He has had a stamp for being lazy and unprofessional before too. I think this is more a test of his mentality than a mental health thing
Who said this?
Not sure why I’m bothering, but I’ll try one more time as you’ve failed to understand the point. Everything you’ve said here is irrelevant. I don’t need to demonstrate a case study which links racial abuse to mental illness. Your premise here is that many other black players didn’t have mental issues (which, by the way, is itself an unproven assumption unless you know them all) as a result of racism and therefore Sancho didn’t. This is a frankly ridiculous assertion because the whole point about mental health issues is that they manifest in many different ways and because of many different things. And importantly could impact each and every person differently because each person is different with their own background and history and experiences. Your view of pointing to others who weren’t impact to conclude why someone therefore can’t also be impacted is an uneducated viewpoint. And easily refuted in fact because there’s literally billions of examples where two people who react to the same circumstance differently.
And abuse wasn’t from terraces but instead on social media - but whatever that’s by the by.
I may have contributed to him coming off social media. After one of the many lackluster performances, I couldn't bare it anymore, so went on Insta and DMed him the below comment, which was posted by a user on here
"He just hasn't got that inner drive needed to thrive at a club like United, he's too content with himself. One of the things that bugged me from the start with him and I posted it back then. He got the move of a lifetime to a huge club like United. He should have been eager to impress and had himself in top physical condition for the start of the season. Instead, he accepted an extended holiday and returned to the club totally out of shape. Even Maguire and Shaw returned to training before him that summer and they played almost every minute of the Euros. Grealish was even back in time for the Community shield for City. Sancho should have been back early for preseason eager to impress last year but instead, he shows up out of shape. That winning drive just isn't his nature. He'll 100% never succeed here."
"You gotta be better man, make us eat our words"
I do hope he turns it around but currently, looks like he lacks the physicality and mentality needed to be a success for Man united, in the premier league.
"He just hasn't got that inner drive needed to thrive at a club like United, he's too content with himself. One of the things that bugged me from the start with him and I posted it back then. He got the move of a lifetime to a huge club like United. He should have been eager to impress and had himself in top physical condition for the start of the season. Instead, he accepted an extended holiday and returned to the club totally out of shape. Even Maguire and Shaw returned to training before him that summer and they played almost every minute of the Euros. Grealish was even back in time for the Community shield for City. Sancho should have been back early for preseason eager to impress last year but instead, he shows up out of shape. That winning drive just isn't his nature. He'll 100% never succeed here."
"You gotta be better man, make us eat our words"
I do hope he turns it around but currently, looks like he lacks the physicality and mentality needed to be a success for Man united, in the premier league.
You DM'ed him this?
Is this still even a thing?! The Euros were in London. Sancho was moving from Germany. Any reasonable employer would have given him extended holiday to sort himself out and settle - and being offered Sancho was well within his rights to accept it and take the time. There is literally ZERO issue here. Ole didn’t exactly rush him into the side anyway.
Just wow.
1. You don't know that
2. Just because one player shakes it off doesn't mean the next player automatically will
What he's saying isn't outlandish.
C'mon now. Still doesn't have to be mental issue, just pure adaptation reason. I remember Szczesny deleting his social media somewhere in 2012 temporarly which was purely to concentrate on football.
Donny is not playing for even more extended period and there was not a sign of psychological complication whatsoever in any media. Sancho was clearly happy he's returning to England, he talked openly about being close to close ones is important for him.
Usually when ETH says you're not playing, it means it strictly in football language, without deeper meaning behind. He could be aswell ready to get minutes on FA Cup vs Everton in January.
Come to think of it, If he reads your message and comes back, scoring vs Pool again then you're basically Jesus.
You need professional help, not Sancho.
Never ever pick your nose, there is a massive chance your head will cave in.
Deli Alli mark two, mark my words ETH has insinuated he isn't fit enough and he often doesn't have the right attitude.
Money is the problem, some people get wealthy and think the new drive is to keep going, push on to earn more in whatever it is they do. Others make lots of money and just think I can take my foot off the gas now.
Imagine having a poor attitude and being given a 5 year contact on 350k a week. Over a million pounds a month for five years. That's not including the millions he's made already in his career.
ETH will need to try and get him going again, we can't afford to be embarrassed again by a footballer taking us to the cleaners paying out his contract. The Sanchez debacle was enough.
Money is the problem, some people get wealthy and think the new drive is to keep going, push on to earn more in whatever it is they do. Others make lots of money and just think I can take my foot off the gas now.
Imagine having a poor attitude and being given a 5 year contact on 350k a week. Over a million pounds a month for five years. That's not including the millions he's made already in his career.
ETH will need to try and get him going again, we can't afford to be embarrassed again by a footballer taking us to the cleaners paying out his contract. The Sanchez debacle was enough.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/footbal...ls-sleeping-problem-has-caused-late-borussia/
Unconfirmed rumors at the time were that he was playing games all night.
Its quite disturbing that so many posters simply don't care about a person's mental well-being let alone a person who plays for the club they support.
Reported to have been late for training quite often while he was at Dortmund. Seems to have been well liked there, but also somewhat laid back and not massively “driven”.
Sickening. Isn't it.
There's a close relationship between sleep and mental health.
Most agree that the inability to 'switch off' is the number 1 sign off mental issues.
i’ve heard through a verified source that sancho has an entourage at training that he makes open doors for him and do stepovers. tenny h asked him to put a bit more effort in and beat a man by himself but jado said there was no way.
Love the thread title change!
As per above and I also remember him getting a haircut during Covid when he obviously knew he'd be breaching protocols and the Germans were not happy.
Generally, I think he's got a bit of a rep as someone who is not always 100% professional but not in a major way, I'd say.
My impression is more like an Eden Hazard - he just doesn't live to play football and while that's perfectly fine, it might not be conducive to being successful at a club like United.
It’s just basic and not detailed but it stops speculation. Backs people off from making up stories especially after his socially media got deleted and then turned back on with only Dortmund photos.
Now journalists will, hopefully, stop speculation and be more mindful about what they write and ask. I’d imagine a significant amount of fans too.
This sounds pretty much like a transfer is on the horizon though.
Has there been any indication in the media that he might be mentally unwell? Apart from the EtH quotes about the "combination of physical and mental" thing?
Several reports on this from his time in city and with England. Him being frequently late and being up late playing computer games
Not seeing much evidence of that here.
Can this fake rumour die already? Which platform is this social media? His Instagram is fully deactivated. Twitter is full of photos of United. It takes 2 seconds to confirm this, yet the rumour keeps circulating.
https://instagram.com/sanchooo10?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
Unfortunately, this is now the standard on the Caf. Express an unpopular opinion, and it's open season for insults and a pile on, but if you reply to the vitriol with a bit of snark, you're quickly put on notice. I'm indifferent about the topic, but as I read through this thread, I knew exactly how it would turn out. While I think calling him soft is a bit insensitive, it certainly doesn't warrant such juvenile responses, such as assuming you are lying about your psychology degree. Groupthink at it's worst.
Cheers. Yeah, this thread has been a bit of an eye-opener. I certainly didn’t mean to offend anyone. But the level of vitriol based on pure speculation has been a bit disturbing, even from staff members. It has been nice to see the tide turn somewhat and credit to @Jippy and others for bringing some balance.
For the last fricking time, he isn't on £350k a week,
wish this rumour along with many others about Sancho would die.
It's not deactivated nor deleted since you can still see the profile. He deleted all his posts and changed his profile pic to a blank pic.
All of that points to him returning at some point, hopefully soon.
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Indeed it is.
Apparently having mental issues makes you weak to a lot of people.
Despite elite athletes like Serena Williams, Michael Phelps, Simone Biles, Gianluigi Buffon, Andres Iniesta and many many more discussing their mental health issues.
Some quite awful takes on here.
I think that remains my biggest issue. Not with the view he needs to perform better, and it’s possible this is a performance matter more than a health one, but the complete and utter dismissal by many posters, including some very harsh use of language, in terms of criticising MH.
I think enough has happened and been said for posters to conclude there’s something having a detrimental impact on the players mind and I’m of the opinion we should trust Ten Hag and support the player until we know exactly what’s happened.
It was, and still is, the same with Rashford though.
People can be so insensitive.
I'm not against discussions on MH related topics but since we don't know what is really going on with Sancho, I wonder if it's best if such thread is even needed, a lot of speculations and assumptions based on very little information
Mental health awareness and understanding is improving, but still pretty low. If you add in the Caf having a global readership, with posters from all different backgrounds and cultures, it's not surprising you see varied takes, some of which are insensitive at best or seen as very dated now.
Given the prejudices, if you have an extremely highly paid footballer who is underperforming potentially having mental health issues, some will have a Norman Tebbit-style view on the matter. It's probably partly a generational thing, but not entirely, given I'm sure the people dismissing mental health problems are not exclusively 50+.
The fact it's not confirmed he has mental issues and the thread is full of wild speculation either way is not particularly conducive to constructive discussion either.
I feel like someone should point out that working with football coaches in the rain and snow in amateur club facilities in the Netherlands, in December I might add, is not a standard or even experimental treatment for depression.
This has to be a joke. Surely?
I'm sure you're being somewhat tongue in cheek, but a specialised programme to work on your mental health/confidence and conditioning isn't quite as drastic as it being an experiment to cure depression. People say that the conversation surrounding mental health is improving and while it undoubtedly is, people see it and immediately conjure up the most severe dimensions of it such as depression. It really doesn't have to be as significant as that.
While I'm sure this is not entirely serious, lack of sun is a major no-no for me, personally. Sun just makes things better and this is why money is not always correlated to happiness.
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