This thread is a mess. All based on speculation.
Sancho won’t return to Man Utd until he's ready - Way too much inappropriate speculation.
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Well I’m glad your able to help a lot of people with that simple attitude.
it all depends on the individual and the situation, hopefully it’s nothing too serious and being blown out of proportion.
You'll have to forgive me for not refreshing the page after I got back from lunch and missing your edits.
Yep, people just seem to have interpreted it that way with very little reason for it.
Indeed, this thread has made for an amusing reading. You'd think this website has the highest number of resident world class psychologists on all of the internet.
What with them being able to pass diagnoses by "reading between the lines" of a few sentences by the manager, quoted by a third party. It couldn't possibly be that Sancho simply isn't up to the level of the PL or that he just couldn't be arsed now that he has made the big bucks. It's all assumptions. As I said earlier in the thread, to me this is Ten Hag offering him a helping hand, which he either embraces or gets sold. The reasons are irrelevant.And now you're resorting to personal insults while at the same time telling me to chill. You need to take some of your own advice pal, before getting on your high horse. I'll reply back to who I want when I want boy.
If you can't handle different opinions, I suggest you do what sancho did and isolate yourself from this thread.
Haha sure thing buddy.
Very funny for this mini rant to start with how people needing to stop making assumptions, and ending with you making an assumption.Indeed, this thread has made for an amusing reading. You'd think this website has the highest number of resident world class psychologists on all of the internet.
You know feck all, like everyone else.
That's strange considering that someone replied to my post at around 18.16 CET and had no issues to pick up the entire post and yet you weren't able to do that at 8.21pm (give and take)
But keep digging doc
Ps I edited the time
This really isn't the GOTCHA! moment you thought it was, kiddo. Exactly, I don't know. I never said people can't make assumptions. But the weird hostility for not being empathetic enough to made-up scenario based on imagined evidence is ridiculous. As is passing serious diagnoses with a light hand.
Indeed, this thread has made for an amusing reading. You'd think this website has the highest number of resident world class psychologists on all of the internet.
Couldn't agree more. It really isn't a complicated situation, you either step up and deliver or you get out the door. United have enough baggage than to carry a 350k player who can't hack expectations along with the pace and intensity of the league.
It would be better for his well being if he is experiencing a MH crisis to move to a smaller club which doesn't have the pressure and scrutiny that comes with playing for a club our size.
With a heavy dose of Caf analysis into EtHs use of the word ‘mentality’ & more than a hint of ‘free ride’. All the ingredients of a Caf Cake at this point.
I'm on Eastern Daylight Time. Left for lunch about the time you made the edit and am busy at work, occasionally checking in on the caf from my phone, where I tend to have threads open. So not really strange at all.
Time for Garnacho to step up and make that left flank his own.
Time for fans to step up and support our own players when they need it.
I agree . Hope he is OK
Hope he gets the help he needs, whatever that may be. What a nice world it'd be if we could all get paid time off to deal with issues causing us to be subpar at our jobs.
So saving £150,000 a week will clear the debt. You should give our financial team a bell and let them know. We’ve been trying to clear this debt for years
TBH I'm not quite sure its mental health. I think he's talking more about the mental aspects of the game. Him saying that Sancho isn't physically ready to play, which was quite clear from his pressing when he did play, in this conversation may mean that Sancho may have some things to learn in regard to aspects like positioning and work rate rather than him having mental health or social issues. This is just me deciphering, but I could be wrong.
Yeah, I think this more likely. If you read between the lines it can just as easily be interpreted as Sancho has lost his way on the pitch. ETH references some good performances early on in the season and pre-season before his form fell away.
He may just need a reset to clear his mind and start making better decisions on the pitch. He seemed to stop going at players and just playing it safe.
So he's either call of duty Dembele mode or has metntal health issues? Glad this thread has cleared it all up 
Let’s be honest Sancho was neve as bad as people exaggerate. We expect more but he’s still usually one of our better players.
Apologies
The faux moral outrage is really something.
Heaven forbid people err on the side of caution and want to support the player.
Right on queue. Assuming someone has a mental health disorder despite no evidence to support such is not supporting them.
From the first moment he joined people on here have been saying he has mental health problems. Based on nothing really.
I suppose he might but equally he could just be lazy?
Being sent to a physical training camp on his own in Holland suggests its more of a physical health problem than anything.
I suppose he might but equally he could just be lazy?
Being sent to a physical training camp on his own in Holland suggests its more of a physical health problem than anything.
Why do you keep coming back for more?
Hasn’t Rashford already done that this season?
We know nothing of the work he’s doing in the Netherlands other than that he’s working with people Ten Hag recommended so can’t really call it a physical training camp. Given his profession it’s very likely that anybody Ten Hag recommends will have at least some level of physical training even if it was just to keep him ticking over.
We know literally nothing.
It’s interesting to read about Roberto Baggio, who came a buhddist in response to the pressures he experienced, and who won Serie A in it’s heyday for two different clubs, the Italian cip and the UEFA Cup, took Italy to a bronze and a silver medal
two WC’s, being joint player of the tournament with Romario in 94, winning Ballon d’Or (90, 94) and World player of the year (94, 95), scoring the most goals for Italy ever in WC tournaments. The conclusion that he was unsuitable at top level football seems a bit off, though.
It’s also interesting how several people who have been described as ‘vulnerable mentalities’ in this thread, have, like Baggio and more, reached the absolute highest levels that football has to offer (Christiano Ronaldo, Diego Maradona, Ronaldo9, Ronaldinho, or for us, George Best, Eric Cantona, Ryan Giggs, Roy Keane).
On further thought, maybe our scouts should focus more on volatile psychologies as a plus(!?) when looking for players to take us to the top levels of football?
The idea that ie a psychology expert should screen and exclude mentally vulnerable players, certainly wasn’t suggested by many psychologist (except a few looking for the job), as they know human beings and mental capabilities don’t work like that.
You're right, let's keep him then, what's one more underperformer to add to the list. He's only one of the highest paid footballer's in the world who can't even make the 26 man squad for his country. We can easily afford to see out the remaining three and a half years of his contract, it's not like we had to pay for the last couple of signings on the company credit card (we literally did by the way).
The squad needs weeding. Sancho, Maguire, AWB, DVB. There is about 40m a year there in salaries with close to zero in output. That's way more than what is paid out in the hated dividends annually. Over the life time of the glazer ownership that's close to 700m, enough to clear the large debt. Maybe I will give the financial team a call
We know nothing other than a player is going on a specialist training programme in what is essentially the off-season. There's no indication he's in need of 'a therapy outreach patient care centre', and if he was, so what? We're Manchester United, we're too big to care for the mental health of our staff? What kind of garbage is that?
Let's park your needlessly bullish, hard-man twaddle - it's pathetic. Grow up.
He's not had the best start to his life at Manchester United but that's not unusual. He's shown brilliance in his early career and to think it's magically disappeared so needs to be shipped out overnight is ridiculous. You don't scrap your car because it got a flat tire. He's a 22-year-old multi-million-pound asset who'll almost certainly prove you wrong.
If you're a representative of my football club, something has gone very wrong.
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I assume it's because Rashford's playing well, so they have to pick on someone else in what is generally a fairly optimistic time to be a United fan. I don't know if it's the short attention spans, the lack of understanding of what real football fan culture is or just the sheer number of proper thick FIFA-wankers in here.
Whatever he needs... and I'm expecting him to come back with some focus and power.
Just think he needs to bleedin' well take ownership of his career and potential.. and he can!
He has everything he needs at Manchester United. Hope he sorts himself out and smashes his way through the rest of the season.
Just think he needs to bleedin' well take ownership of his career and potential.. and he can!
He has everything he needs at Manchester United. Hope he sorts himself out and smashes his way through the rest of the season.
Sancho was fantastic in preseason and decent early on this season. But even then he was being subbed at the hour mark regularly due to being absolutely gassed. And then his performances went from bad to worse. To the point he was subbed at halftime on more than one occasion.
I see that and that's why the player and manager are doing something about it. I don't think we've quite hit the stealing-a-living-sell-the-cnut button just yet.
I’m all for anything that gets the best out of him. But to say he isn’t one of our worst performers this season is nonsense.
I hope he is doing well whatever the situation and I'm confident in that ETH is at hand to manage this.
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