probably serious, some have lost the plot
Saido Berahino
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) are here to discuss Amad saving our blushes in a win against Southampton as well as our now annual loss at home to Brighton. They discuss Amorim's post-match comments, revisit how mid-table we may or may not be, and discuss some transfer news.
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probably serious, some have lost the plot
Austin doesn't have half of Berahino's potential, he's a lot better than people seem to be giving him credit for.
you know what I wouldnt be surprised if Austin scored more goals than Berahino this season and next season, but Berahino has the potential to be a much more rounded player - that said many many players don't fulfil their potential
Very true, but I don't think their current abilities are far apart, in fact due to style I think even now Berahino would benefit from being in a bigger team, Austin would be very "Lambert at Liverpool" in my opinion.
Neither are our level. But serious comment if you said both are available and you have to have one. Think Austin is more of a predator who will get you goals at any level, seems a good bloke too and knows how hard he's had to work. Think Berahino may blow hot and cold over his career.
Fair point, I can see him developing nicely, but I can see a potential Defoe too.
However scoring 20 in 45 for West Brom, when you are only 22? Can't think of many strikers who have scored 20 in the league for a side outside the top 12 who didn't make it big.
In fact, how many strikers at 22 have scored 20 in the PL outside the top 12 teams?
He hasn't scored twenty in the Premier League in two seasons combined.
Excuse me, sorry 6 came in cups. Rephrase my question to:
In fact, how many strikers at 22 have scored 20 in all comps outside the top 12 teams in the EPL? While still having a scoring rate of 0.44 to appearances/ goals...
well berahino has actually played 70 games if you include subs appearances as well
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saido_Berahino
Its like saying solkjear scored 92 in 151 games for united and ignoring the 84 subs appearances
http://www.soccerbase.com/players/player.sd?player_id=9713
http://www.soccerbase.com/players/player.sd?player_id=57997
I'm talking this season only... http://www.soccerbase.com/players/player.sd?player_id=57997&season_id=144
Detailed analysis at bottom.
He had 2 long barren spells without scoring last season 11 and 9 games, can't afford to do that for a team looking to win the league
Yet still managed to out score anybody in our team.
He'd be a great addition with a view to developing him over the next couple of years...he's a rough diamond and has the pace our attack line craves.....There's been plenty of strikers over the years that thrived with better service once they moved to massive clubs (not saying Berahino will ever be close to anyone on this list) - Dwight Yorke, Samuel Eto'o, Thierry Henry, Eric Cantona etc
This, playing for WBA at that, also playing a number of games as a wide man and not a Striker
Indeed.
Cant see how anyone could question the transfer given how limited our options are.
He's a good player. It's impossible to write him off as not good enough until he attempts to make the step up to a big club. He's good to watch though. His first touch is similar to Harry Kane, both are very good at receiving the ball under pressure and at pace. Berahino's pace certainly carries a lot of threat, and he seems to give us a torrid time when we play West Brom. He's a decent finisher as well, for the very limited supply he seems to get.
So did Charlie Austin
Buying on potential, 20m on Berhinho or 40m Kane. Berhinho is a no brainer for me.
Berhinho has more to his game and has the potential to be a better player overall. If we buy one this season, i hope its Berhinho, I am pretty confident he will score 10-15 goals as back up to Rooney.
And if Kane is ends up being the world class class player what people claim him to be (i think hes good, but not 40m good, yet) than next season, he can be lined up as a Rooney replacement.
Berhinho has more to his game and has the potential to be a better player overall. If we buy one this season, i hope its Berhinho, I am pretty confident he will score 10-15 goals as back up to Rooney.
And if Kane is ends up being the world class class player what people claim him to be (i think hes good, but not 40m good, yet) than next season, he can be lined up as a Rooney replacement.
Makes too much sense! C'mon Woody and Louis, surely you have figured this one out by now!
He reminds me of Andy Cole
amen
Not many top line strikers available out there. Levy is not going to sell Kane this summer, no matter how much money we put on the table. Berahino is the player we should be targeting. Rooney looks shot this season, not sure if he needs a longer rest or if his decline is due to his age. If we are to achieve anything, we need a striker who can give us movement and prove to be a danger to the defenders. Berahino can provide what we are lacking, and for the price that WBA are asking, it should be a no brainer.
Berahino would improve us at the moment, with Rooney offering nothing and Chicharito/Wilson just not really challenging him for the spot. Pay the fecking 15m, who cares
Really not good enough.
We don't need a Rooney back up we need a replacement.
Not true as Rooney is our captain and guaranteed starting striker.
Hence we need a replacement, he's finished at the top level. An unproven and frankly overrated youngster like Berahino is of no use to us we need a top class, proven striker.
Doesn't he have some mentality issues or something? Remember him being left out of the squad a few times at West Brom.
I think he is a pretty good player but his goal scoring record last season is deceiving and padded out with 4 penalties and 4 goals against Gateshead.
So, spurs buying 2 new strikers eh
Bye bye Kane
Bye bye Kane
Geebs, we all know what you're doing.
With Rooney or more Rooney being on the pitch we need a new striker, but I think we should aim a bit higher than Berahino.
I think we've been doing that all summer an being told to feck off. If we are to achieve anything this season, we ened a decent striker. For me, Berahino is around the level Saha was before we signed him, and is a better striker than Rooney at the moment. For all those implying Berahino's record was not all that, Rooney would get feck all in the West Brom team.
I think he can have a similar impact to Saha/Sturridge if he steps up. Very unfortunate not to have gotten into the England squad, and I think big club bias (and big striker bias perhaps) have worked against him. Welbeck is not better than him. Given what he's achieved at WBA, and the self-confidence he seems to have, I think he could join us next week and get us 20 goals this season, which would put us right up there.
He'd also be the level of signing that would not restrict us from adding a 'bigger name' striker next summer should one become available.
Sort of player I could easily see SAF signing.
Has some potential to be a bit like Andy Cole.
Has some potential to be a bit like Andy Cole.
@Rozay you are undervaluing Saha there but I agree with your point..
I'd like to see us move for Berahino... He's a young exciting talent who I could see being a long term replacement for Rooney.
He's fast, skillful and I'm sure for this season would accept not being first choice. Obviously spurs would be a good move for him but I think we are the only other top side where he'd get a good chance.
Not going to happen of course.
He's fast, skillful and I'm sure for this season would accept not being first choice. Obviously spurs would be a good move for him but I think we are the only other top side where he'd get a good chance.
Not going to happen of course.
I don't think he's good enough, and don't believe that we're in for him. That said, this would be a very Chelsea type of signing. I can't help but think of players like Ba and Remy - clearly not good enough, but purchased to fill holes in the roster...almost "disposable" players, so to speak. If they happen to take their game to new heights, then great. If not, move them on and don't lose any sleep. We should have loftier ambitions. If we can't bring in a truly classy striker, then we should stick with Rooney, Chicharito, Wilson and Januzaj, while trying to strengthen in wide areas.
Both Ba and Remy are considerably older than Berahino, though. Signing a young player with a lot of potential is considerably different than filling holes in your roster with known quantities.
True. The commonality, though, is that none of them are good enough for a top club, regardless of age. Of course, how highly you rate Berahino is a matter of opinion. Personally, while I think he's a nice player with promise, I don't think he's anywhere near good enough for United. If others rate him more highly, then that's fair enough. Chelsea has taken a similar approach with young, promising players as well. Lukaku is a prime example. My fundamental point is that we should be setting our sights higher. If the right player isn't available, then I'd prefer to wait.
Fair points, no doubt. I'm sure there are many posters who just want to sign someone that might score 15 goals for us in a season.
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