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CM10 said:
Guardiola's way of giving his seal of approval for when he becomes United manager? :angel:
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No, just his typical answer when one of the Munich journalists ask questions about players because an English newspaper has talked about Bayern interest. Funnily we usually see the players in Munich the next season nobody talked about... ;)
 
Blackwidow said:
No, just his typical answer when one of the Munich journalists ask questions about players because an English newspaper has talked about Bayern interest. Funnily we usually see the players in Munich the next season nobody talked about... ;)
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He was joking.
 
How has he been for Southampton lately? Haven't heard anything about him at all.
 
VorZakone said:
How has he been for Southampton lately? Haven't heard anything about him at all.
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The few times I've seen them he's been their best attacking player but Southampton are not playing all that well overall so not much is being highlighted.
 
I'm actually hoping Southampton's drop in form might make him available this January.
 
Do we want to line up as a 4-2-3-1 next season with Griezmann/reus/mane in the no. 10 position (which means Herrera and schneiderlin as a midfield two) or a 4-3-3 with three genuine midfielders, and buy someone like Felipe Anderson or Fekir? Having said that we surely can't afford to go into another season without an experienced forward...
 
Sign the lad up along with Moura and with these two and Depay and Martial the pace of the front 4 would be electric.
 
Another flash in the pan.

He would be a great squad player for us but he's nowhere near what we should be aiming to buy to go into the first 11.
 
Lol. Sometimes it feels like champ manager 16 on here, from world beater to flash in the pan? I think there are also 10 other players in that team that have contributed to their crap results of late and not just about where he's actually good or not. To the Mahrez thread....
 
Wilson Litchmore said:
Lol. Sometimes it feels like champ manager 16 on here, from world beater to flash in the pan? I think there are also 10 other players in that team that have contributed to their crap results of late and not just about where he's actually good or not. To the Mahrez thread....
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I know what you mean mate, but he was being ridiculously overrated in the summer.

He's a good quality premiership player, but just not the kind of superstar signing in attack that we are crying out for.
 
Obviously he's not a superstar yet, signing him now and hoping his game elevates to that level is what we want - in the way the likes of Douglas Costa have done. There's not many superstars available too. Alexis, Reus, Bale, Neymar, Griezmann etc. are hardly available.
 
Garethw said:
I know what you mean mate, but he was being ridiculously overrated in the summer.

He's a good quality premiership player, but just not the kind of superstar signing in attack that we are crying out for.
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I know what you mean but I'm not sure anymore what we need...didn't we try the 'superstar' signing and that lasted a season?
 
lem8sh said:
What influence will that have on any future "superstar" signings?
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Rhetorical question? I'm my opinion it makes things a little difficult for the next one if the one before it failed. It's funny cause I remember when we didn't sign superstars cause we already had them in the team. It was more about are they good enough to play for us. Now we are looking for the next messiah....
 
Wilson Litchmore said:
I know what you mean but I'm not sure anymore what we need...didn't we try the 'superstar' signing and that lasted a season?
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What super star signings? Last season we brought ADM + we signed Falcao on loan. This season we brought Bastian and some shrewd signings.
 
I couldn't care if they are superstars or not just got to be better than Blind at Centre back Rooney up top and Mata at right wing and that would be a start. Mane, Ronaldo feck me bring Welbeck back but watching this week in week out in is not easy and we are only getting worse.
 
He would work his ass off every week and not have a Diva attitude when things aren't going right. Southampton aren't in great form this year so might accept a decent fee, it's either him or another like Felipe Anderson etc, we desperately need 1 more pacey winger.
 
Adam-Utd said:
He would work his ass off every week and not have a Diva attitude when things aren't going right. Southampton aren't in great form this year so might accept a decent fee, it's either him or another like Felipe Anderson etc, we desperately need 1 more pacey winger.
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Which is why selling him in Jan doesn't make any sense.
 
devilish said:
What I am saying is that there's nothing different between that season to the one we signed JSV or RVP. Actually both players had bigger reputations than ADM
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I'd say on par to be fair.
 
Not excited about this link. He's looked a good player, but how many Premier League proven attacking players that moved from mid table clubs to the traditional top 4 big clubs have actually replicated their form or got better and worked out in the last 10 years? Not many. For us Valencia and Tevez were the only 2.

When you consider that he'll cost at minimum 30 million, it just seems we'd be better off looking for someone else.
 
manutddjw said:
Not excited about this link. He's looked a good player, but how many Premier League proven attacking players that moved from mid table clubs to the traditional top 4 big clubs have actually replicated their form or got better and worked out in the last 10 years? Not many. For us Valencia and Tevez were the only 2.

When you consider that he'll cost at minimum 30 million, it just seems we'd be better off looking for someone else.
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It hasn't really happened all that often either way that I can think of. Can't really think of many that have flopped... Lallana maybe?
 
manutddjw said:
Not excited about this link. He's looked a good player, but how many Premier League proven attacking players that moved from mid table clubs to the traditional top 4 big clubs have actually replicated their form or got better and worked out in the last 10 years? Not many. For us Valencia and Tevez were the only 2.

When you consider that he'll cost at minimum 30 million, it just seems we'd be better off looking for someone else.
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Well it all depends on their actual ability doesnt it. Mane's ability with the ball is exceptional, he is a step ahead of most other players. His footwork is superb, he has very quick feet, can use either foot and is a heads up player. He works hard off the ball and is very effective on the ball. Some of his passes are absolute killers but on top of that he can dribble superbly. Add in that he has great acceleration and lots of speed both physically and technically you end up with a player who is a little bit special. He is playing in a weak team but the important thing is that his actual footballing ability is so good that he has a very very good chance of being a success at a big club. If a player is to have a chance of success moving to a bigger club the most important thing is footballing ability and Mane has that. He is a far better footballer than Lallana, he just hasnt had a chance yet to showcase it at a big club. Next season will be interesting, he wont be at Southampton.
 
devilish said:
What I am saying is that there's nothing different between that season to the one we signed JSV or RVP. Actually both players had bigger reputations than ADM
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Don't agree. JSV wasn't signed as the jewel in the crown that was going to take us onto the next level, neither was RVP. We just signed a player from Real in the top 3 players in the world arguably. Neither JSV or RVP have ever been that....
 
Wilson Litchmore said:
Don't agree. JSV wasn't signed as the jewel in the crown that was going to take us onto the next level, neither was RVP. We just signed a player from Real in the top 3 players in the world arguably. Neither JSV or RVP have ever been that....
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You don't remember alot don't you. Ultimately one failed and the other succeeded like. We wouldn't have won our last epl title without robin
 
Lawman said:
I'd say on par to be fair.
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I disagree. RVP was Mr Arsenal the equivalent to what Cantona was for us. He wasnt just world class, he was also their leader, their best player and their regular scorer and he had that role for quite some time. JSV was considered in his time the second best playmaker in the world. SAF brought him in because he actually believed he could do a better job than Scholes in CM which does say something. ADM is an excellent player but he was never the crown jewel of Real until THAAT season.

In my opinion last season was so impressive because it took us to another level. We spent years under investing and throughout those years we seem to have lost some confidence in our ability to bring in quality players on for LVG. The situation was so dire that Paddy literally humiliated a caller for daring to mention Herrera as a potential signing. Than LVG came in and bam we were bringing in ADM, Herrera and Falcao (even though on loan). That made an effect. The only transfer window I can think of which had a similar effect was that year we brought Stam, Yorke and Blomqvist. At one point we were struggling to compete against the Serie A giants and we were bringing 33 year olds to replace our best player and bam we went on buying the most expensive defender of the time, stealing him under the noses of Juventus and co
 
Still have question marks about Mane. Usually when we sign players from midtable clubs I expect them to prove beyond reasonable doubt that they definitely ready for the step up to play for us. The final seasons of Carrick, Saha, Shaw and Rooney at their previous clubs gave me confidence that they could be first team players for us.

With Mane this season, I have been a bit disappointed and I'm a fan of his. We cannot justify a big money move for him based on what he has done on the pitch this season. I think because we're in need of a player of his type it has led to overrating him. Players like Mahrez and Deulofeu would be more worthy of being linked to us and would probably be cheaper.
 
devilish said:
You don't remember alot don't you. Ultimately one failed and the other succeeded like. We wouldn't have won our last epl title without robin
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It's amazing on here how everything turns into a argument around something actually not related to the original comment. Anyway for the purpose of your statement, you've changed the goal posts a few times. Never mentioned whether RVP was a success or not. Just said we signed a player that was labelled arguably to be the first of many superstars post Fergie. Wasn't a success hence after one season selling him. Not saying it will influence any further signings but certainty makes anyone consider whether this is the right transfer strategy
 
Wilson Litchmore said:
It's amazing on here how everything turns into a argument around something actually not related to the original comment. Anyway for the purpose of your statement, you've changed the goal posts a few times. Never mentioned whether RVP was a success or not. Just said we signed a player that was labelled arguably to be the first of many superstars post Fergie. Wasn't a success hence after one season selling him. Not saying it will influence any further signings but certainty makes anyone consider whether this is the right transfer strategy
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read my post for Lawman
 
devilish said:
Its relevant to our argument ie the difference between ADM, RVP and JSV
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It's like comparing apples n' pears. Different players, different positions, different club in a different era. Expectations of all players was to contribute to the club and all have in different ways....good, bad and indifferent!!
 
devilish said:
I disagree. RVP was Mr Arsenal the equivalent to what Cantona was for us. He wasnt just world class, he was also their leader, their best player and their regular scorer and he had that role for quite some time. JSV was considered in his time the second best playmaker in the world. SAF brought him in because he actually believed he could do a better job than Scholes in CM which does say something. ADM is an excellent player but he was never the crown jewel of Real until THAAT season.

In my opinion last season was so impressive because it took us to another level. We spent years under investing and throughout those years we seem to have lost some confidence in our ability to bring in quality players on for LVG. The situation was so dire that Paddy literally humiliated a caller for daring to mention Herrera as a potential signing. Than LVG came in and bam we were bringing in ADM, Herrera and Falcao (even though on loan). That made an effect. The only transfer window I can think of which had a similar effect was that year we brought Stam, Yorke and Blomqvist. At one point we were struggling to compete against the Serie A giants and we were bringing 33 year olds to replace our best player and bam we went on buying the most expensive defender of the time, stealing him under the noses of Juventus and co
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There is a big difference between Madrid and Arsenal Devilish, ADM was Madrid's most important player (after Ronaldo of course) that season. RVP and SJV were also considered world class hence the reason I said they were on par. The fact ADM was in the team that won the champs league (MOM in the final) and one of the best players in the world cup is a feat that neither SJV or RVP were when we bought them, so not sure why you are saying he wasn't at least on par regarding reputation?
 
Looks brilliant, playing a dual role. He's a #10 in attacks and drops to midfield when defending, showing great work ethic and quality, an almost essential #10 for the big games. The complete opposite of a luxury player.

Dare I say it, a "Mourinho-esque" player.
 
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