I agree. Still, it is risky/difficult to compare both or draw firm conclusions from last season for two reasons: (1) Mkhi is in his prime, Mane is not; (2) Mkhi played for a much better side.
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I agree. Still, it is risky/difficult to compare both or draw firm conclusions from last season for two reasons: (1) Mkhi is in his prime, Mane is not; (2) Mkhi played for a much better side.
A couple of posts suggesting this is not the area we need to strengthen. Don't forget we have already signed Karius and Matip. Matip might prove to be a world class centre back. If we can get a left back and left sided midfielder we're good to go.
Mane will be a good player for them, and typically he always used to score against them too!
Why can't Southampton keep their players? It's seems every season they get raided. Such a shame tbh
that your opinion, he was also pretty poor for dortmond the season before, and showed he takes time to settle in, which at 27ish we might get 1 or 2 seasons out of him, giving jose aint one for giving players a real chance if they dont perform straight away i think its a big gamble.
The entire Dortmund team played poorly then, and it could be argued that Klopp wasn't the right manager for him. We can't assume Mourinho is going to use him like Klopp did. He may well do what Tuchel has done and work wonders.
Mkhitryan and Mane are different kind of players so hard to compare them but the former is a much better player right now. Mane has the advantage of being a couple of years younger though, and I can see him thrive under Klopp. Still don't like the guy and think the fee is too high but hope that changes quickly.
And according to BBC Radio Solent, the fee which Liverpool have agreed to pay Southampton is an initial £34m, rising to £36m.
Journalists close to Southampton are saying Mane's fee is £34 million rising to £36 mil.
Probably Liverpool are trying to keep the rumour as £30 to keep fans slightly happier.
Probably Liverpool are trying to keep the rumour as £30 to keep fans slightly happier.
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Good signing for them. They're attacking options needed a healthy dose of raw speed which Mane has got in abundance. I'm guessing Klopp is going to try and properly convert him into a winger or wide midfielder since all his best stuff so far has been centrally from the games I've seen of him but they're overloaded with #10's as it is.
Out of interest what are we expecting Liverpool's budget to look like this summer? Can they stretch to £100m with the new TV deal?
Out of interest what are we expecting Liverpool's budget to look like this summer? Can they stretch to £100m with the new TV deal?
I doubt it re Matip.
Your central midfield is a bit shaky still IMO.
I wouldn't say you didn't need to strengthen re. Mane though, I think he will do well.
That is a lot of money..
I suppose his skill level has just gone up massively.
I'm not sure we have the right to laugh at this transfer fee. What we've spent over the last three or so years, for the players we've bought in, looks just as bad.
Will be a great asset if they can get some consistancy out of him. He's definitely an upgrade on what they currently have.
Modmins, please edit the title to reflect the sum
Modmins, please edit the title to reflect the sum
Maybe under LVG. Mourinho seems to have other ideas.
Watch him have a stormer against us after all this.
34 million?
My word.
My word.
I like this. The fee for Mane is rising, while Micky's dropping.
Southampton really are the Sevilla of English football aren't they? They could probably move Pelle on for 25m too.
Mane was Louis' pick I guess. Love the guy. Price is what I expected too considering how important he is Southampton.
Because this is what you wrote,
So if I read it right, you're saying Klopp doesn't want Mkhitaryan because he doesn't rate him. He rates Mane hence he's signing him, right?
Then you wrote,
Here you're saying Klopp doesn't want Mkhitaryan because they don't have a good working relationship.
So which one is true,
1) Even if Klopp could sign Mkhitaryan, he won't because he doesn't rate him.
Or
2) He won't sign Mkhitaryan because they struggled to work together while he's at Dortmund.
That's why I raised the contradiction thing. Id' not say the second one was guesswork because from Mkhitaryan's own words we know it wasn't all good between them. Anyway, there is no point in quibbling over petty things.
I'd just add one last thing, as for whether or not Klopp rates Mkhitaryan, Mkhitaryan is Klopp's most expensive signing ever!
Don't you think there is a different between "I don't think Klopp rates him" vs "Klopp does not rate him". If you think they are the same thing then fair enough, maybe I should've been more clear.
If I rephrased, to me it seems like Klopp doesn't rate Mkhitaryan as highly as Mane. But I am willing to accept that maybe it's not about who Klopp rates but just that him and Mkhitarayan don't have a good relationship.
As far as my own opinion is concerned, I think for the same price, Liverpool is getting a younger, stronger, faster and a better finisher who is also PL proven.
Typical Liverpool transfer. Unproven talent for too much money. I start thinking they are actually a money laundering operation.
How is he unproven? Been quite good in the premier league the past two seasons. Still a lot of money mind, but that's quite cheap these days considering it's from another English club.
He's pretty highly regarded and was even discussed as a potential United target.
Going by the BBC there is a fair bit of difference in price.. I also don't think Mane is a better finisher.
Very good player, overpriced, obviously, but very good.
Liverpool should really be focusing on other areas of the pitch though. His position is arguably their strongest.
Liverpool should really be focusing on other areas of the pitch though. His position is arguably their strongest.
Bizarre, Mkh scored almost twice as many goals as Mane last season, how's he not a better finisher?
PL proven is such a silly myth, too. Were Aguero, Silva, De Bruyne, Hazard, Willian, Toure, Kante, Mahrez PL proven? Nope.
1 goal in the PL worth 3 goals in other leagues, same thing with assists and opportunities created.
@Raoul could you please edit the thread title to reflect the sum, which is said to be £34 (rising to £36m), don't want to give the scouse credit for a better deal than they absolutely deserve
But he isn't going to play as a No 10, he's more an upgrade on Lallana who is a weak link by all accounts.
Decent player but at that price? Not a chance.
I swear when I went to bed they were the same price. They are not anymore according to Sky. At least makes me feel a little better.
34m for Mane and 26 for Micky...
Crazy money in England..
Crazy money in England..
He has speed and proved to be quality for Southampton 2 seasons ago. Last season was an on and off season for him as far as i can remember. Also has an attitude problem if i remember right. I think we are fortunate he did not come here in the first place. We'll see how he does at Liverpool but i seriously doubt he is what they need and 30 million pounds for him is just too, too much.
He's been pretty good the past two years. His pace and ability to work off Firmino and Coutinho will be a massive advantage for Klopp's style.
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