Ryan Shawcross back at United?
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) are here to discuss Amad saving our blushes in a win against Southampton as well as our now annual loss at home to Brighton. They discuss Amorim's post-match comments, revisit how mid-table we may or may not be, and discuss some transfer news.
Could be but he s not as bad as people are making him up over here for sure,,
Was sold by Big Ron not Fergie.
United boss admits Shawcross regret - Manchester United News from football.co.uk
United boss admits Shawcross regret
United boss admits Shawcross regret
Old quotes, we really shouldn't sell any young player without a buy back clause.
Yes, But Fergie bought him back, so it counts.
Not really. I bet there's more players that have left and come back over the years but specifically under Fergie was the question i thought.
It didn't say that though, it just pondered who Fergie had brought back to United. Thats how I read it anyway.
I really cannot think of many who have left and then come back as players. I keep wanting to say Ronaldo, but that is for the future!!
If I m not wrong, if Stoke sell we will get a percentage of the fee. If that's the case Fergie has an interest in hiking Shawcross' price.
We usually sell young players because they're not good enough (Shawcross) or they'd rather be somewhere else(Pique). That doesn't change after they've left.
Very rarely is there a young player we let go of that we really regret letting go of, so I can't see why there's any need to put in a buy-back clause. Except because it works in FM.
There's obviously a reason most teams don't do it.
I can't think of any academy players you've let go that you would regret (same with us).
Not in Ferguson's time no, think Big Ron got rid of a few, most notably David Platt and Peter Beardsley.
Hughes wasnt Fergies player to start with
Upson?
You could argue that if you'd kept Upson, Pennant and Bentley for that little bit longer, you could have commanded much higher transfer fees. Upson is probably around the same level of the likes of Squillacci, Djourou and Koscielny anyway.
And I believe a certain Andrew Cole came from the Arsenal academy..
I dont want him back here at all, hes a bit rubbish and would get found out at our level of competition.
Apparently we have first option on him?
News to me!
News to me!
no it doesnt fecking count
you said "how many times has Fergie brought a player back"
the inference drawn from that was "back" meaning back to Manchester Utd
if you meant Fergie buying a player back who he had originaly sold you should have made that clear
Hes actually not.
Better option than evans? I think so
thats because your knee is jerking...
Nowhere near better than Evans
I suppose by your standards then Carrol is Better than Rooney as Carrol is in good form and Rooney isn't.
What a retard.
Wouldn't want him back. He's a decent defender but a bit one-dimensional. Would rather an intelligent player like Evans getting his shot, who has so much more potential.
Shawcross is physically tough, but rash, positionally naive and hopeless on the ball. It's what you get when you're learning you way in the EPL for Stoke I suppose.
Shawcross is physically tough, but rash, positionally naive and hopeless on the ball. It's what you get when you're learning you way in the EPL for Stoke I suppose.
m.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/oct/20/sir-alex-ferguson-ryan-shawcross?cat=football&type=article
Ferguson talks up ryan shawcross. Is our interest real or simply we re making life difficult for other parties interested?
Ferguson talks up ryan shawcross. Is our interest real or simply we re making life difficult for other parties interested?
Fergie does rate Shawcross very highly, and has said in previous interviews that if he had known that Pique would leave on ground of being "homesick" a few months down the line then he wouldn't have sold Shawcross at all. I think he just means that given our defensive problems with injuries it would have been handy to hold on to a talented CB, can't see us going for him now he's built his reputation as being a "brute", and that's not the kind of player that we want to be associated with.
i dont think that fergie is bothered by shawcross 'brute' reputation. Vidic is not very different in that regards.
There's a big difference between being a tough-tackling, body-on-the-line type of defender in comparison to the generalisation of the Stoke defence.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/aug/18/ryan-shawcross-stoke-city
From an article in 2009
"Manchester United have [a buy-back clause] and they have the first option on Ryan at any price or bid we receive. So if we get a bid for him, we tell Sir Alex and then it's up to him. I think that Alex is being very astute and clever and experienced and you would expect no less from the man."
From an article in 2009
"Manchester United have [a buy-back clause] and they have the first option on Ryan at any price or bid we receive. So if we get a bid for him, we tell Sir Alex and then it's up to him. I think that Alex is being very astute and clever and experienced and you would expect no less from the man."
I doubt he would be as brutish if he had stayed here, he has alot of talent tbf but it won't come to fruition at Stoke.
He is considered 10 times more brute after his tackle on Ramsey and because he plays for Stoke.
Wouldn't mind him back.
Wouldn't mind him back.
Don't see how we need him, unless Jones is going to play in midfield.
I rate him highly.
I used too.
For me he hasn't really kicked on in the way he should have. In his first 2 Premier League seasons I was impressed with the way he read the game and snuffed out attacks but his game has shifted now to being about how much of a mark he can leave on his opponent.
He's still very good, obviously, but not someone I'd like to see us sign.
Very good defender a bit like Wes Brown but less injury prone and haven't we got some kind of option? Would be a very handy addition to our squad.
I doubt it. If we had one to begin with (which i doubt personally) I doubt it would still be in place 5 years after we sold him.