Southampton job'd be a good one for him.
What'd be the chances for him?
What'd be the chances for him?
Ryan Giggs | United confirm he's left
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Well Pochettino got it on a recommendation from Jose so maybe Fergie could to the same for Giggs.
I mean if he went there, that'd be great for his career, but do you honestly think Southampton would want someone completely unproven?
Yea because if was Saints I would risk hiring one unproven and inexperienced guy after having Poch and Koeman at the helm. Makes it even more insane that some people here wanted us to do it.you do acknowledge that there are people who do not limit themselves only in watching football at the Manchester pond don't you?
I can see him going for the Wales job after the Euro's if they have a stinker and get a humiliating defeat.
It's high profile enough and he could stay in the North West.
However I think it would be a bit of a "road to nowhere" and not lead to a more significant post.
It's high profile enough and he could stay in the North West.
However I think it would be a bit of a "road to nowhere" and not lead to a more significant post.
I hate how the red tops are making it seem like some mouth dropping event that Giggs might end his lifelong "association" with the club. Legendary players leave their clubs all the time. The reality is that he's failed as an assistant manager. He should have known that the only way he was going to get the top job was if LVG succeeded in building a squad that could challenge on all fronts. As it ended out, it's time for Giggs to move on
He'd be wise to stay at United, I don't see the rest of the footballing world clambering for his signature.He's also had to assist two of Uniteds worst ever managers, it might do him the world of good to work with a winner.
Wishful thinking ?
What if Jose doesn't want him as he has his own team to work with?
Now, I think he will, but Jose hasn't won anything with United yet. That is the measuring stick you're using right?
Moyes unfortunately wasn't the right man for the job, but Van Gaal for all his faults won't be remembered that way. He won titles everywhere he went, but at United he bought and promoted youth, but was let down by the performances of many of his once world class players (Rooney, BFS, Di Maria, Van Persie, Falcao). He lost his job after winning the FA Cup in a season with a ridiculous injury list, not because he was one of our worst ever managers, but because there was a better option available. To define Jose as a winner because he's won trophies elsewhere contradicts your assessment of Van Gaal.
On the subject of Giggs, I'm a romantic at heart. I'd love to see him succeed in the United job. Hate to see him leave, he's one of us... but just recently I've found myself becoming more in to the idea. Our fans, in the current mindset, would show him very little patience.
It's a sorry situation for Giggs. His stints as coach with Moyes and Van Gaal have tarnished his footballing reputation and his off-field indiscretions haven't helped his cause either. I don't like the treatment he has received from United fans who have seemingly forgotten his playing career - his brilliance and his unwavering commitment. I'm not willing to portion blame on him during his time as Van Gaal's assistance - because, whilst we know that his role included opposition analysis, we don't know to what extent he was able to impart his thoughts on how we should play. Does anyone honestly believe, that given what we know Giggs believes in, that he would willingly allow United to setup in the way they have in the last two years? I don't.
Unfortunately for Giggs, the timing isn't right. United simply couldn't afford to go into next season, having missed out on Champions League football, without a proven manager who can go toe to toe with Guardiola, Klopp etc. He must surely recognise this. Unless of course, he genuinely believes he possesses the ideas and the skill-set in which take the United job on now. Which he may well do, but we won't find out.
I suspect leaving United is the last thing Giggs' wants to do. It is all he has ever known. Even if there were managerial positions available to him in the lower leagues, they wouldn't be at all appealing - because when you have spent the best part of the three decades at United and had the best facilities and resources at your disposal, going anywhere else would be a reality check. As snobbish as it is, I just can't see Giggs working at a lower league club. He's a different character to that of Scholes, Butt, the Neville brothers etc.
I would have dearly loved to see Giggs manage United. The only way I could've foreseen him failing is if he:
My heart wants him to stay. My head knows he should go and forge his own path.
And since I never let my head rule my heart, I hope he stays, I hope he can make a significant contribution and I hope to see him managing Manchester United one day.
Unfortunately for Giggs, the timing isn't right. United simply couldn't afford to go into next season, having missed out on Champions League football, without a proven manager who can go toe to toe with Guardiola, Klopp etc. He must surely recognise this. Unless of course, he genuinely believes he possesses the ideas and the skill-set in which take the United job on now. Which he may well do, but we won't find out.
I suspect leaving United is the last thing Giggs' wants to do. It is all he has ever known. Even if there were managerial positions available to him in the lower leagues, they wouldn't be at all appealing - because when you have spent the best part of the three decades at United and had the best facilities and resources at your disposal, going anywhere else would be a reality check. As snobbish as it is, I just can't see Giggs working at a lower league club. He's a different character to that of Scholes, Butt, the Neville brothers etc.
I would have dearly loved to see Giggs manage United. The only way I could've foreseen him failing is if he:
- Didn't have a Plan B - if his attacking style wasn't working, does he have the ideas in which to adapt?
- Could he manage the dressing room, make the tough calls?
My heart wants him to stay. My head knows he should go and forge his own path.
And since I never let my head rule my heart, I hope he stays, I hope he can make a significant contribution and I hope to see him managing Manchester United one day.
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It will be a sad day to see him go from the club, if thats going to be the case. He was a great player and has more records than the Beatles.
The results of his stint as manager, 4 games, 2 wins, 1 draw and 1 loss, he didn't do too bad considering the situation at the time.
Kidd and Phelan found pastures new and made a fist of it, so I can't see it being a problem if he decides to go on a new venture away from United.
The results of his stint as manager, 4 games, 2 wins, 1 draw and 1 loss, he didn't do too bad considering the situation at the time.
Kidd and Phelan found pastures new and made a fist of it, so I can't see it being a problem if he decides to go on a new venture away from United.
Has anyone considered the fact that just maybe Giggs had no interest in this whole coaching malarkey until someone whispered in his ear he'd get the United job? Hence his reluctance to do anything else
I've believed for a while now that he's only interested managing Manchester United.
It's a romantic idea, the most decorated British player becomes manager of the most decorated English club and goes on to win countless silverware. It even warms the heart of an old cynic like me until I give me head a wobble and realize that he has no experience whatsoever. So far we've seen him pick the old guard and play 4-4-2 with some pace on the wings for the few games he was in charge. We have absolutely no concept of what he brings to the first team in his role as assistant manager except that one article which said he gave a small team talk about the importance of beating Liverpool; a team that finished 8th last year who other than being our historical rivals are completely irrelevant in the modern game. Ryan Giggs has been an excellent servant to the club, his loyalty a rarity only matched by a handful of players across Europe but our club infrastructure is nothing like Barcelona's and trying to emulate the success they enjoyed with Pep Guardiola who happened to take over a team on the cusp of peaking with one of the best players to ever play the game in their squad is madness.
He first started working towards his coaching badges and coaching with age group players back in 2008
He's been doing his badges for 10 years so probably not.
There was a report that on mourinho's first job at the club was to contact port vale and recommend someone for the managers job.
Giggs or robbie williams for the role?
Giggs or robbie williams for the role?
Ignoring whats best for United and purely in terms of Giggs development process for being a future manager somewhere else surely spending a season as part of Mourinho's backroom staff would be extremely valuable. A year of learning what Mourinho does on the training pitch has got to be a huge help to him.
What's best for Gigg's managerial career is not really any business either me, you or Manchester United. We don't owe him the duty of "helping" his managerial career. He should stay if the new manager thinks he'll benefit the club and help him in his job, if not he can leave.
I think the best solution for the whole club would be to make giggs DOF. He can set out a plan for the future, still let Mourinho have final say on signings, but give Giggs the leeway to buy lads for the future, then when and if Jose is leaving in a few years everything is in place for Giggs to do his thing.
There u go.. Settled!
There u go.. Settled!
You coming out with that now is quite funny. Fair play though.
All he need to do is say "im happy enough to be a coach. I support mourinho wholeheartedly"
Be a good coach, learn, built some rapport, and maybe next time lucky.
He never utter a word to quell his ambition, he never once voiced his support for moyes or van gaal, even making a show by going against his boss on both ocassion. Storming out of the training ground during moyes, going to the pitch to bark i dont know what just to show his care, only a stupid person would want to raise a wolf.
He fight a war he's not ready to win. He's not smart enough to see where the wind blows and bid his time.
I'd be very surprised if Giggs would want to relocate out of the Worsley area in fairness, with that in mind I'd expect him to be looking for a local club.
In all of Jose's roles as manager he has made a point of keeping continuity with an assistant who either A. use to play for the club or B. use to coach for the club - he did it at Chelsea with Steve Clarke, Real Madrid with Karanka and Inter with Baresi.
With Ryan's legacy and standing at the club with the players and fans he would seem tailor-made for that role.. that is why I think if Giggs decides to leave it is because he wants to fly the nest and try something else.. he isn't getting any younger and like Fergie use to say "the bus waits for nobody".
He doesn't want to be tarnish his legacy by angling around too long - the fans are already starting to turn on him (unfortunately fans have short memories).
With Ryan's legacy and standing at the club with the players and fans he would seem tailor-made for that role.. that is why I think if Giggs decides to leave it is because he wants to fly the nest and try something else.. he isn't getting any younger and like Fergie use to say "the bus waits for nobody".
He doesn't want to be tarnish his legacy by angling around too long - the fans are already starting to turn on him (unfortunately fans have short memories).
Going from an assistant manager to just a coach is a step down that won't do him any favors.
I don't understand, what exactly is funny about what I 'came out with'
Let's not rewrite history here.
Van Gaal was simply crap. Just like he was in his 2nd Barca spell ,his 1st Dutch spell or with us. He's had that kind of career,up and down. Sadly when it gets bad,like it did with us it's awful.
His legacy is the worst football seen at Old Trafford since the Sexton days.
The Jose thing doesn't really contradict at all. The second half of Van Gaal's career was hardly that of a winner. He even admitted that when he said he 'was' s very good manager.
That would be terrible.
Creating two centres of power would just be asking for trouble.
Giggs doesn't have the credentials for the job. I'd rather get an experienced D.O.F or none at all.
He should have put his name in the hat for the Celtic job when it was open. Would have been perfect for him, league isn't the most competitive and Giggs would have had the opportunity to implement his style their and gather valuable experience.
and you completely missed the point.
I wasnt talking about any of that but as usual you completely miss the point
and another who completely missed the point. Did any of you actually pass comprehension in English class at school?
Why is this still under discussion - he should definitely go and prove himself somewhere. We've gambled with Moyes who set us back massively and then gone for experience which again backfired with VG.
Giggs has zero experience (you can't count his spell as caretaker) - why should he get the top job in football? It's crazy he was even being considered!
Giggs has zero experience (you can't count his spell as caretaker) - why should he get the top job in football? It's crazy he was even being considered!
Your point was that he'd learn a lot from mourinho, but that ship has sailed when he wasn't offered the assistant manager job, a demotion would hurt his reputation badly.
How on earth does it badly damage his reputation?
A year later he heads off to apply for other jobs and tells them "i decided to do another year in the backroom coaching staff to learn as much as I could from Mourinho and his methods". I would think most people would see the positive in that.
He doesn't have a reputation...which is part of the problem regarding the debate over his managerial abilities.
Any manager in the world could benefit from working under another world class managers, yet you don't see them rushing to do that, because there's a time for everything.
Giggs thought he's good enough to manage the club, but not only is he not getting that, he's being offered a demotion, not even a sideways step, a demotion, and you don't think it'd damage his reputation because he'd learn from the experience?
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