Maybe there's another reason.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...ho-earned-respect-owner-Roman-Abramovich.html
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...ho-earned-respect-owner-Roman-Abramovich.html
Oh.
It's not exactly professional to go speaking about it in the media before an agreement is reached between himself and the club.
The only people who care about this ongoing "speculation" are United fans with nothing better to do. And they are likely the ones being catered to by the media gossip columns producing it. Go figure.
What if he hasn't decided?
which strengthens the theory of Mou not wanting a master's pet/snitch.
Oh.
He was the Philip Neville of the two, if Phil was older then Gaz and playing with erm Shitty.
Also Franco Baresi was a much better defender then Gaz (lets see if I can pull out another stating the obvious thread like the Zanetti-Gaz one)
Or wanting yes men.
Well Giggs isn't just another Ryan, it doesn't matter that he's done nothing as a coach/manager. He's one of the biggest legends at one the world's biggest clubs, therefore he isn't just another Ryan, he'll always be in the picture because of his playing career.
The line between 'No men' and snitches/backstabbers is very thin in football
He is. Most top players had to start from very low levels. Charlton started (and ended) at Preston for example. The best player of football ever started at Mandiyúof Corrientes
How would you know? And what is there in that story that shows Holland as masters pet or snitch?
I think it depends which view you see it. A manager's snitch/backstabber tend to be the players hero/'no man' especially when the manager in question wants to bring alot of changes into the team with many of those players being shown the door
Well yeah. If you choose to view it from your pre formed opinion. There's nothing in that story that says he's the players hero. You're plucking that from thin air. Ultimately the story doesn't really mean a lot. Holland stayed on at a Chelsea as a coach. There was no need for him to be demoted. Giggs has allegedly been offered a role to stay on as coach also so it would be the same scenario he had at Chelsea. Doesn't really strengthen your conspiracy.
Poor old Giggs currently trending on facebook - assumed that his future had been announced, but it was for a very different reason 
What was this other reason?Poor old Giggs currently trending on facebook - assumed that his future had been announced, but it was for a very different reason
Yes , should I have written a poem or something?
"I only care about Ryan Giggs and what's best for his career."
"Why doesn't he just feck off."
I didn't say I only care about Giggs because I don't, I care about United but I'd like him to succeed but he needs to feck off
and prove that he should even be considered for the job not hang around waiting for the job just because he's been a great player .Its up to the directors/owners to offer their staff the job. Considering that these directors/owners sacked the manager then its only fair that they retain the people who stood against such manager.
However its up to the manager to decide the proximity between him and the people who are already at the club. For example Beppe Baresi went up the youth ranks during Mancini's administration. Eventually Mancini left Inter because he felt that the club didn't back him up and Mou arrived in town. Mou promoted Beppe as assistant and the guy went in great lengths in describing Mou as the best manager he ever worked with and even comparing him to Trapattoni (a sort of Italian version of SAF). Guess what? As soon as Mancini returned to Inter Beppe was kicked out of the first team coaching and reduced to a mere scout. That what happens when a manager doesn't like a member of his staff or perceive him as a potential danger. We also know that LVG and Mou are pretty close too having worked together in 1997.
Because they were the only two ways to convey your thoughts? Saying somebody should feck off isn't particularly indicative of wishing them well.Yes , should I have written a poem or something?
I didn't say I only care about Giggs because I don't, I care about United but I'd like him to succeed but he needs to feck off
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Would you want to hire somebody who is after your job and has an incentive to see you get fired ASAP as your right hand man?
I'm not sure how any of that relates to what I said or your conspiracy theories. Thanks for telling me who Giovanni Trappatoni is though. Had no idea.
This
read again and maybe you'll understand
hookers shagging United staff in his hotel - complete with pics
Who is that then.
This and no matter how the club dresses it keeping Giggs around the first team after all that's happened is only going to end one way. There is no way any sane man is going to want someone whose only chance of getting his dream job is through you getting sacked during the middle of the season.
Only if you're unwilling to listen to 'no men'. Regardless of one's successes in the past, one should not ignore experienced people's ideas, particularly when things aren't going well.
Granted it's all just speculation and the daily fail obviously times their article perfectly, but even Mourinho, who is arguably my favorite manger in the game, should not easily dismiss others.
or perhaps someone who is good enough to sit beside hime
This is an extract of how Mourinho chose Beppe Baresi. Its comes from Inter official site not tribal football
" Prima di arrivare, ho preparato un documento per la società: ho scritto il profilo dei collaboratori che volevo, ho detto che funzione dovevano avere. imageUna delle cose che è scritta in quel documento, che abbiamo io e la società, sono le ragioni per le quali voglio con me una persona con un determinato profilo che conosca la storia del club. È Giuseppe Baresi, ma poteva essere Riccardo Ferri o Giuseppe Bergomi o un altro uomo importante per la storia del club, questo per avere una persona che mi rappresentasse con dignità, qualità, classe e status davanti ai tifosi, ad altre società ed alla stampa."
'Before I arrived I have prepared a document which was given to the society. In it I've written a profile of all the people I wanted and the roles they should have. Among those roles I wanted a person with a certain profile, someone who knows the history of the club. That man was Giuseppe Baresi but it could be Riccardo Ferri or Giuseppe Bergomi whose another important person for this club's history. I wanted someone who can represent me with dignity, quality, class and status in front of the fans, the society and the media'
Mou is not afraid of hiring outside his inner circle and he actually search for that one person who knows the club well and is loved by the fans. the media and the society. Even within in his inner circle its not as if he has a pack of yes men. Character wise Faria seem closer to Roy Keane then to Philip Neville. Which makes you wonder why he doesn't want Giggs as no 2? He fits the profile mentioned above perfectly.
You can downgrade my theory as a conspiracy theory but I can't come out with any other plausible idea rather then that of LVG leaving quite a handover to his former no 2 and disciple
Interesting you bring up Baresi. If you believe the media reports Giggs won't accept any job other than assistant manager. Contrast this with Baresi. Since Mourinho left Inter, Baresi has repeatedly shuffled between being assistant manager and technical adviser depending on the manager's wishes. Why can't Giggs take a 'backwards step' and become first team coach while Mourinho is around? All seems a bit self-involved to me.
To think that he was assistant manager when Inter won the treble. If Giggs was in that role then he would probably end up our manager by now
After being assistant the next step should always be to become a manager, which shouldn't be here of course, but if he can't continue as the assistant, he should leave the club an seek a job as a manager somewhere.
No need. It was gibberish.
There's a need cause you haven't understood a thing. Oh well
Think Giggs needs to take the hint. Or is he waiting to be paid off?
Exactly. He banged my Mrs. That's why I'm so irritated that he's still at Utd. Not only did he bang his brother's Mrs, he also banged mine.
Also I can't imagine how incredibly disruptive it'll be to have him loitering around behind Jose Mourinho, continually nosing over Jose's shoulder and leaking to the press when things go badly that he should be the new manager, or leaking to the press when things go well that it's now safe to hand him the job as new manager.
What's to understand? It's you talking about something that doesn't make sense and trying to pretend your google researched knowledge is really impressive. It isn't.
Jesus, sorry for hurting your feelings
, I'm sure Giggs doesn't give a shit about what you or I say on here, stop being so precious.He still needs to feck off and prove himself though, or should I say he needs to go out on his own and prove himself, is that better?, so much difference but if it stops you crying then fair enough.
I'm not the one getting worked up about a man deciding whether to accept a job. What a child like post.Jesus, sorry for hurting your feelings
He still needs to feck off and prove himself though, or should I say he needs to go out on his own and prove himself, is that better?, so much difference but if it stops you crying then fair enough.
I'm definitely not worked up lol, you're the one picking an argument because I said he needs to feck off, yet there's probably hundreds of people who have said the same thing.
If anything you're being childish by reacting the way you are, anyway that's my last word on it, goodnight.
I think this is the first time in his time here that we've apparently had any sort of drawn out 'contract talks' with Giggs (or whatever is going on right now, if anything at all).
Sort of why I'm surprised at people expecting the worst of him. Yeah he fecked his brother's wife - he's always been a womaniser. But I don't recall him ever causing the club any trouble over anything, so I'm not sure why he'd start now.
Sort of why I'm surprised at people expecting the worst of him. Yeah he fecked his brother's wife - he's always been a womaniser. But I don't recall him ever causing the club any trouble over anything, so I'm not sure why he'd start now.
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