Russian invasion of Ukraine | Fewer tweets, more discussion

Looks like the public blame game has begun in Kremlin, it will collapse soon (Regular army vs FSB vs Kadyrov/Prigozhin and co.). I think the war might end much sooner than some are expecting and the trigger will be from within.
 
Another Ukrainian offensive seems to be in full swing. Morning coffee could be very pleasant tommorow.
 
I hear that referendum just began in the town of Kreminna on joining back the Ukraine after the short but miserable life under Putin. Imagine what local traitors and collaborators must be feeling right now while they see Russian forces advancing backwards.
 
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I hear that referendum just began in the town of Kreminna on joining back the Ukraine after the short but miserable life under Putin. Imagine what local traitors and collaborators must be feeling right now while they see Russian forces advancing backwards.

I actually hadn’t thought about this as a tactic!
 

Listened to so many of these and very often the families sound…uninterested? I don’t know if it’s me not knowing the language, the translations or a combination of both. But I always feel they aren’t that bothered with the situation of their loved ones.

Maybe thinking about what color Lada they’ll be getting.
 
As I wrote earlier now (after losing Lyman) the only reasonable thing to do for Russian forces would be to drop back to the fortifications from pre-invasion defensive line around the city of Luhansk otherwise they run the real risk to collapse in the northeast completely and lose this war almost on the spot with an open flank as they gonna get overrun.
 
I hear that referendum just began in the town of Kreminna on joining back the Ukraine after the short but miserable life under Putin. Imagine what local traitors and collaborators must be feeling right now while they see Russian forces advancing backwards.

They will have to undergo a special course for re-nazification.
 


Deeply ashamed of this.

Whatever our qualms were with the US propping up Pakistan, or Ukraine voting against Indian interests in Kashmir, or the strong trade relations we had/have with Russia - commitment to democratic values and liberty of life should come first and it should not even be a debate.

What is undeniable is that an unhinged autocratic dictator is waging war on a neighboring nation and illegally annexing their lands. People are dying to this war - soldiers, civilians, children. Families torn apart and lamenting losses. Homes lost, lives changed forever. Millions others suffering indirectly through the energy crises and political turmoil. All of this can be stopped if Putin is stopped.

And we abstained from a vote that merely required us to commit to this position. This silence supports the oppressor.

What a fecking disgrace.
 
Deeply ashamed of this.

Whatever our qualms were with the US propping up Pakistan, or Ukraine voting against Indian interests in Kashmir, or the strong trade relations we had/have with Russia - commitment to democratic values and liberty of life should come first and it should not even be a debate.

What is undeniable is that an unhinged autocratic dictator is waging war on a neighboring nation and illegally annexing their lands. People are dying to this war - soldiers, civilians, children. Families torn apart and lamenting losses. Homes lost, lives changed forever. Millions others suffering indirectly through the energy crises and political turmoil. All of this can be stopped if Putin is stopped.

And we abstained from a vote that merely required us to commit to this position. This silence supports the oppressor.

What a fecking disgrace.

Yep. Will look very bad after this is over when the Ukrainians regain lost territory and India will be remembered as having abstained from criticizing Putin.
 
Yep. Will look very bad after this is over when the Ukrainians regain lost territory and India will be remembered as having abstained from criticizing Putin.

Nope. Nobody will remember or care and the world will spin on. I'm Indian and against our stance on this but I doubt it will make any difference.
 
Here's another potential end game:

Ukraine effectively win the war. But since putin can't back down, he continues shelling and border skirmishing indefinitely out of pettiness.
Ukraine then joins nato in this climate. This gives putin his out, saying he had to end the conflict to save the planet from nuclear war.
 
Here's another potential end game:

Ukraine effectively win the war. But since putin can't back down, he continues shelling and border skirmishing indefinitely out of pettiness.
Ukraine then joins nato in this climate. This gives putin his out, saying he had to end the conflict to save the planet from nuclear war.
If Russia is pushed back to their border i definitely think Putin will keep going. If only to kill all the able bodied men in the provinces so they can't rebel after the army is destroyed.
 
Nope. Nobody will remember or care and the world will spin on. I'm Indian and against our stance on this but I doubt it will make any difference.
Am I right in assuming that India abstaining/supporting Russia has to do with Soviet Union subs blocking the US fleet during the India-Pakistan conflict many decades ago?
 
Am I right in assuming that India abstaining/supporting Russia has to do with Soviet Union subs blocking the US fleet during the India-Pakistan conflict many decades ago?
More likely due to BRICS.
 
Am I right in assuming that India abstaining/supporting Russia has to do with Soviet Union subs blocking the US fleet during the India-Pakistan conflict many decades ago?
India has to be careful about such annexation stuff because they would like to take Kashmir themselves under full control. They don't want to tie their hands by condemning actions they maybe want to take themselves.
 
Point is, what happens when reality really kicks in? After the sham annexation of entire territories they do not even occupy, let alone control or govern, what is left to Mad Vlad? Even idiots like Lukashenko and Kadyrov can see through the smoke, particularly because they would be wiped out as well if Putin is toppled.
 
Point is, what happens when reality really kicks in? After the sham annexation of entire territories they do not even occupy, let alone control or govern, what is left to Mad Vlad? Even idiots like Lukashenko and Kadyrov can see through the smoke, particularly because they would be wiped out as well if Putin is toppled.
My guess is that Putin will look for ways to freeze or drag out the conflict. But obviously Ukraine is not going to stop.

 
Maybe this is some Ukrainian psyop or whatever but for those interested, this is what Ukrainian head of defence intelligence said on 30 September.

The war between Ukraine and Russia will not last long and its active phase will end soon, Chief of Defense Intelligence of the Ukrainian Ministry of Defense Kyrylo Budanov believes.

“This whole war won’t last that long. It will end soon,” Budanov said in an interview broadcast on the national telethon on Friday, Sep.30.

At the same time, answering the clarifying question of the presenter about whether it will last “two or three weeks”, he said that we are talking about a longer period.

“At the end of May, I told what the algorithm of military operations would be. Then I said bluntly that June would not be good for us, we would lose. In July there will be a conditional stagnation, and in August we will begin to gradually move towards the restoration of the territory, which it will be clear to everyone. In winter, the war will largely subside, but after the winter, the end of this conflict will begin. At the first stage, reaching the administrative borders as of 1991,” Budanov said.

He also added that, probably, the Ukrainian army will enter the territory of the Crimean peninsula by the end of spring 2023. “Perhaps a little earlier. You can make a mistake in the days, but not in the algorithm,” he said.
https://www.kyivpost.com/ukraine-po...ef-budanov-on-likely-duration-of-the-war.html
 
10 NATO members have already expressed their wish for Ukraine to join the block:
1. Czech Republic
2. Estonia
3. Latvia
4. Lithuania
5. North Macedonia
6. Montenegro
7. Poland
8. Romania
9. Slovakia
10. Canada
 
He is a despicable idiot usually talking bullshit about Covid, but nonetheless remarkable rethoric from the German Health Minister (member of Scholz' party, which makes this even more astonishing):


"Honestly: Why kneel in front of Putin? We are at war with Putin and not his psychotherapists. Victory has to be consequently pursued meaning the liberation of Ukraine. It doesn't matter if Putin's mind can deal with it"

So far no other German government official has said that we are at war.
 
Point is, what happens when reality really kicks in? After the sham annexation of entire territories they do not even occupy, let alone control or govern, what is left to Mad Vlad? Even idiots like Lukashenko and Kadyrov can see through the smoke, particularly because they would be wiped out as well if Putin is toppled.

 
From "we're going to crush them in 3 days" to "the might attack us". Speaks volumes about how the russian army was ridiculed.
And it keeps going. Reportedly AFU is currently attacking east of Kupyansk, according to Russian sources about 10,000 Ukrainian soldiers take part and currently fire massive amounts of artillery at the Russian positions. Doesn't look good for the Russian army there.
 
And it keeps going. Reportedly AFU is currently attacking east of Kupyansk, according to Russian sources about 10,000 Ukrainian soldiers take part and currently fire massive amounts of artillery at the Russian positions. Doesn't look good for the Russian army there.
Moving quickly towards Kreminna too, east of Lyman.


 
There are stories of advances in Kherson too - anyone know anything about this?
There are always stories about that, Ukraine takes back about half a village a day and that's it. Russia moved a lot of good troops to that region (which are now missing in the region where Ukraine really is successful), so they can't do much, but they keep going and keep the Russians busy.
 
There are always stories about that, Ukraine takes back about half a village a day and that's it. Russia moved a lot of good troops to that region (which are now missing in the region where Ukraine really is successful), so they can't do much, but they keep going and keep the Russians busy.
Cheers.
 
any wideview maps? to see where ukraine is now compared with last month? even a projection would be interesting as they've made a lot of progress going by the succession of towns and oblasts.

found this.



don't know how accurate it is but suggests ukraine has focused on the north.
 
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