Russian invasion of Ukraine | Fewer tweets, more discussion



Regular russians are against the war though. When the west will finally get that putin is only a reflection of majority in russia, we’ll be able to move forward properly with our policies on russia. It’s not putin’s war as they try to paint in some western countries.
 
Wonder what the feeling in Russia is about the release of Azov PoW.


Girkin, who is one of the main opinion-makers for radicalized warmongers, talks about the treason somewhere in the Russian higher-ups.
 
Can you even seek asylum to avoid conscription?



No but yes.


3. The position can be summarized in the following terms:

a) Fear of prosecution or punishment for draft-evasion does not in itself constitute well-founded fear of persecution under the definition. Conversely, draft-evasion does not exclude a person from being a refugee. He or she may be a draft evador and a refugee;

b) There are cases where the necessity to perform military service may be the sole ground for a claim to refugee status, i.e. when a person can show that the performance of military service would have required his participation in military action contrary to his genuine political, religious or moral convictions, or to valid reasons of conscience;

c) Not every conviction, genuine though it may be, will constitute a sufficient reason for claiming refugee status after draft-evasion. Where however the type of military action, with which an individual does not wish to be associated, is condemned by the international community as contray to basic rules of human conduct, punishment for draft-evasion could, in the light of all other requirements of the definition, in itself be regarded as persecution:

d) A person whose refusal to perform military service is based on genuine religious, moral or political convictions can also be considered a refugee, provided that the genuineness of such convictions and the likelihood of prosecution and sanction, or other treatment amounting to persecution, are established.

e) Assuming that the religious, moral or political conviction advanced is reasonably credible, and surrounding circumstances of the case do not argue otherwise, a draft evador of that description may be accorded refugee status even though the punishment be faces does not differ substantially from that meted out generally for this offence because of simple disinclination to serve.
 
@harms , I remember when you posted a while ago about recovering from some health issues. I'm really sorry to hear that it was an accident that also cost the life of your best friend, I can't begin to imagine your pain. And having to go through it all while the country you're from and live in engages in this horrific conflict that I know that you're against.

Thanks for your continued posts here which provide a lot of clarity and context as far as what's accurate and what isn't coming out of Russia. Stay safe, man.

this 100% harms, massive respect to you man. Caught between a rock and a hard place. Keep your chin up, and keep safe for fecks sake. Easy for armchair rambos to say you should do this or that. Do what's right for you and your family.
 


Regular russians are against the war though. When the west will finally get that putin is only a reflection of majority in russia, we’ll be able to move forward properly with our policies on russia. It’s not putin’s war as they try to paint in some western countries.

You make out as if propaganda isn’t a thing. If the people with influence all day one thing, it convinces people that it’s the truth (see: Brexit)
 


Regular russians are against the war though. When the west will finally get that putin is only a reflection of majority in russia, we’ll be able to move forward properly with our policies on russia. It’s not putin’s war as they try to paint in some western countries.

Yakutsk. Couldn't be much further away from Ukraine, but more importantly perhaps, couldn't be much further away from Moscow.
 
They aren’t even making any attempt to save her either. That’s grim.

Indeed it is.
But they were sure to drag her out of the way of the cameras into some kind of doorway.
To my mind. Those protesters are just as brave as the Ukrainian soldiers fighting against the Russian invaders.
 

So much for 35km queues.

Out of these 4824 a total of one person sought asylum and 36 temporary protection.

That particular one was debunked really i think, but the queues are still there, not that bad yet though. Our police is monitoring and sharing the information with their Finnish colleagues in terms of people crossing the border also. It was covered in our news last night.
 


Regular russians are against the war though. When the west will finally get that putin is only a reflection of majority in russia, we’ll be able to move forward properly with our policies on russia. It’s not putin’s war as they try to paint in some western countries.

You concluded that from 2 tweets? Its not all black and white, especially since one video is concscripted people saying goodbyes to their love ones and the other is a queue in Yakutsk, long way from Moscow. Also add protests in a lot of cities and your post sounds wrong.
 
That particular one was debunked really i think, but the queues are still there, not that bad yet though. Our police is monitoring and sharing the information with their Finnish colleagues in terms of people crossing the border also. It was covered in our news last night.
The queues have been 50-250m which is normal. Slightly more people crossing than a week ago but about 30% less than in 2019.
 
Seems like dissent is increasing all throughout the land.



Translation: Kadyrov for sending young people to war in Ukraine.

“You call people to go to Paradise, but you yourself do not go there. You don't want to die. You want to lie warm, eat delicious food and have fat conversations, ”Salah Mezhiev said.
 
Genuinely, how does this end?
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Either there is some kind of coup in Russia or this.
 
Indeed it is.
But they were sure to drag her out of the way of the cameras into some kind of doorway.
To my mind. Those protesters are just as brave as the Ukrainian soldiers fighting against the Russian invaders.
Soldiers have guns . These people just go knowing theres a fair chance of getting their heads smashed and left for dead in an alley.
 
Seems like dissent is increasing all throughout the land.



Translation: Kadyrov for sending young people to war in Ukraine.

“You call people to go to Paradise, but you yourself do not go there. You don't want to die. You want to lie warm, eat delicious food and have fat conversations, ”Salah Mezhiev said.

Wow. The same guy claimed that the Chechens that are fighting in Ukraine are fighting for Koran and will become shahids in case of their deaths earlier.

It takes some courage to say that to Kadyrov especially since he’s apparently still in Chechnya.
 
Does he get arrested or conscripted at the end of the video?

Absurd that I have to ask the question, but hey, Russia.
Arrested. They gave out conscription notices (not sure what the right word is) to some of the detained men in Moscow last night though.
 
Arrested. They gave out conscription notices (not sure what the right word is) to some of the detained men in Moscow last night though.
For what? Expressing support?

See also
 
For what? Expressing support?

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For participating in an uncoordinated protest. The police doesn’t take time to ask the detainees their opinion on the matter, if you were seen near a place where a protest happens and you’re not lucky to somehow evade them, you’re done for.

There’s a Belarusian anecdote which is quite apt in this case:
Police detains a guy on the street during the public protests against Lukashenko after he stole the presidential election. He’s furious:
— what are you detaining me for? I’m on your side, I voted for Lukashenko
— don’t lie, no one voted for him
 
For participating in an uncoordinated protest. The police doesn’t take time to ask the detainees their opinion on the matter, if you were seen near a place where a protest happens and you’re not lucky to somehow evade them, you’re done for.

There’s a Belarusian anecdote which is quite apt in this case:
Police detains a guy on the street during the public protests against Lukashenko after he stole the presidential election. He’s furious:
— what are you detaining me for? I’m on your side, I voted for Lukashenko
— don’t lie, no one voted for him
:lol:
 
For participating in an uncoordinated protest. The police doesn’t take time to ask the detainees their opinion on the matter, if you were seen near a place where a protest happens and you’re not lucky to somehow evade them, you’re done for.

There’s a Belarusian anecdote which is quite apt in this case:
Police detains a guy on the street during the public protests against Lukashenko after he stole the presidential election. He’s furious:
— what are you detaining me for? I’m on your side, I voted for Lukashenko
— don’t lie, no one voted for him
Jokes from this part of the world are class. Some of the old Soviet ones still hold up nicely.
 

If true it’s complete madness. The old school Russian tactic off throwing manpower into situations to overcome it by numbers hardly worked that well when artillery was much less advanced. Now it’s going to be complete carnage.
 
Jokes from this part of the world are class. Some of the old Soviet ones still hold up nicely.
I remember a friend of my grandfather telling a joke he heard when he was in Romania during the Ceausescu days. He was in the street with another man waiting for their ride. A women opens the window behind them. The man buttons up his coat and yells "lady close the window, all the cold is coming out". This guy told me romanians had tons of jokes about how shitty their lives were.
 

From IT specialist in the bank with no military background to a Nazi who will commit genocide on Ukrainian soil in an instant.
 
Putin doing his best Hitler impersonation

WashingtonCNN —
Russia’s military is divided over how best to counter Ukraine’s unexpected battlefield advances this month, according to multiple sources familiar with US intelligence, as Moscow has found itself on the defensive in both the east and the south.

Russian President Vladimir Putin is himself giving directions directly to generals in the field, two sources familiar with US and western intelligence said– a highly unusual management tactic in a modern military that these sources said hints at the dysfunctional command structure that has plagued Russia’s war from the beginning.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/22/politics/russia-military-divided-ukraine-putin/index.html