Didn't you admit a couple of pages back you share stuff you know is not true?
It’s very close to being black and white though. What’s not clear for you in all this? Russians have been brainwashed into being imperialist nationalists to the core, I’m sorry you can’t see it. Many live in informational vacuum alright (don’t get the news from any other sources) but it doesn’t change that simple fact. After Putin reign we’ll still have to deal with the brainwashed nation, people should stop living under the illusion that it will become all rosy once he leaves.
You claimed 50% of russians are nazis. It's a pretty extraordinary claim to put forward without extraordinary evidence.
The quote suggests that he was already at the frontline. If they decide to desert there I wouldn’t be surprised if they were killed (there were many similar reports about killings, imprisonment and torture of those who refused to fight). If they decide not to abide by their conscription, they should just get in jail, but in the current Russia you can never be sure of how different laws are going to be implemented (or ignored).
Well even the most liberal people (which make up like 10% of country give or take) celebrated the genocide of Ukrainians in Donbass and occupation of Crimea. Most supported genocidal war up until now, does that not qualify you as a nazi just on this basis alone? It does in my book. It’s also the most racist country in Europe by far, I think you can connect the dots. Just look how they treat their own ethnic minorities.
It’s worth noting that the Russian force in Ukraine is usually estimated to be between 150-200k. That active military personnel number doesn’t seem to indicate the number of available manpower in reserve though.
You sound like those american trumpers who call everyone communists without knowing what it means.
I have no idea how you've come to this conclusion, the few local Russian posters we have (which I am assuming is probably your only actual contact with a Russian) are very clearly anti-Putin and anti-war.
These are massive outliers let me tell you that. I’m glad they exist meaning not all is lost but they’ll tell you themselves that there are handful people like them in the country. Massive respect though.
Cheers. They were 2 sources I could find in the UK but basic numbers mean nothing, you need someone how has more accurate knowledge.
Thanks for the links. I got to thinking about it when it became known about conscription and the Ukrainian defence ministry(?) said they assumed it and were prepared(or something similar)
Unfortunately, vast majority (90%, including many so called liberals) cheered on it.Who were these guys then? In 2014.
How do you know this? You’re just making it up.
I'll ask again, since you ignored my previous question, where are you getting all these figures you're citing from?
Thanks I was just about to post the same and sorry for derailing this thread. While I go over the board but the main point is that people in the west should understand that it’s not Putin’s war only or this history will keep repeating itself. Many people (in leadership positions too) delude themselves thinking that problem will be solved by getting rid of Putin. I know russia has many beautiful and good people but I closely watch many russian bloggers etc. (being russian speaking myself) and opposition tv channels I can still see the imperialist mindset slipping through at times (unintentionally), you can only notice those things if you know what those things are and I’m not even talking about russians outside of main cities. Example: while working in London I had a coworker from Moscow, she was very sweet and really supportive to me personally but even she started waffling about rusophobia in Estonia people are segregated as Russian people, even those who were been born there don’t get the proper passport (without knowing the fact that those Russians have been brought to Estonia during soviet era as part of the ethnic displacement and that the requirement to obtain the proper Estonian passport is piss easy as long as you know how to count to 10 in Estonian but many refuse to learn the basic language in the country they want to live in (imperialist mindset) or enjoy having visa free regime with Russia that have been granted to such passport holders by Russia, while enjoying all the benefits of living in EU). This imperialist mindset even at the smallest of scales later turns into genocide of the neighboring countries.
I'm under no illusions about how powerful their propaganda has been - I also don't think people should expect the country will meaningfully change in our lifetime but it can get onto a much better path. It doesn't matter if that path is EU friendly either as long as it's peaceful.
Ironically, until Russia goes through the real desovietization (similarly to what Germans had to go through) there won’t be any real changes, you can mark my words.
Why would that be ironic?
Zhyve Belarus! I’m so sad you guys did not manage to overthrow “chik chirika” but looking back you had no chance with Putin set on invading Ukraine through your territory. I was there though rooting for your free people:
Em, denazification of Ukraine, anyone?
No one calls them liberals aside from Putin and his supporters by the way.
You said "desovietization" in your post
You just made my point for me, thanks.