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This shit is crazy. I really hope they can overthrow the government, but i highly doubt they will. He still has a lot of support
 
spiriticon said:
Because I'd only get in the way these days with my poor fitness. They need proper help, not a fat hindrance.

I can best help in other ways.

www.u24.gov.ua

Donate.
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Not to worry, you can be useful in other ways. You can go there to help distribute humanitarian aid, for instance. There are foreign volunteers in Ukraine doing all sorts of different tasks, If you're not in Ukraine right now it's because you don't want to. Not because you can't be useful in some way, that's an excuse and people with their balls in wheelbarrows don't need excuses.
 
NotThatSoph said:
Not to worry, you can be useful in other ways. You can go there to help distribute humanitarian aid, for instance. There are foreign volunteers in Ukraine doing all sorts of different tasks, If you're not in Ukraine right now it's because you don't want to. Not because you can't be useful in some way, that's an excuse and people with their balls in wheelbarrows don't need excuses.
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And how do you know I haven't or am not planning to? How do you know I have or haven't had a few refugees in my home?

Please. I don't need to prove anything. I will help in my own way.
 
@harms , I remember when you posted a while ago about recovering from some health issues. I'm really sorry to hear that it was an accident that also cost the life of your best friend, I can't begin to imagine your pain. And having to go through it all while the country you're from and live in engages in this horrific conflict that I know that you're against.

Thanks for your continued posts here which provide a lot of clarity and context as far as what's accurate and what isn't coming out of Russia. Stay safe, man.
 
harms said:
Party pooper harms incoming.

She’s not a liberal, she works for RT and is a member of Putin’s “presidential council on human rights”. In a country without any.
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I just found it funny, because why did the protests kicked off now? Apart from those genuine people (like yourself) on 25th of Feb. The reason is because people in Moscow/Leningrad didn’t care enough as long as Ukraine was slaughtered by some chechens, buryats, prisoners, low-lifers and alcoholics from the most remote and poorest parts of russia.
 
spiriticon said:
And how do you know I haven't or am not planning to? How do you know I have or haven't had a few refugees in my home?

Please. I don't need to prove anything. I will help in my own way.
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Cool, send us a picture when you arrive in Ukraine.

How do I know? Come on.
 
So this idea that a "cornered Putin" is even more dangerous doesn't stack up to the evidence according to this (slighty older) article...

There is just one problem with the assumption that Putin never backs down. It’s incorrect—part of the myth-making that the Russian president has successfully constructed around himself and has been all-too-easily swallowed by many Western politicians. Contrary to the commonly held belief, when faced with strength and resolve, Putin often backs down instead of responding with more escalatory steps.

Sometimes, a cornered rat is just a cornered rat. And when faced with a superior and committed adversary, it will simply scurry away.
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https://foreignpolicy.com/2022/07/08/vladimir-putin-backs-down-russia-ukraine/
 
Bobade said:
Combat experience needed.
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Surely someone with balls of that size already has some, if not there are a variety of different tasks to do.

People living under authoritarian regimes have to protest and work against it in a way that satisfies @spiriticon's standard of bravery, but @spiriticon will help in their own way and don't need to prove anything at all. Russians doing things in their own way? Cowards, gulag or bust. Ukrainian refugees are cowards as well under that standard, I assume.
 
spiriticon said:
And how do you know I haven't or am not planning to? How do you know I have or haven't had a few refugees in my home?

Please. I don't need to prove anything. I will help in my own way.
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Stop spouting shit then.
 
Rajma said:
I just found it funny, because why did the protests kicked off now? Apart from those genuine people (like yourself) on 25th of Feb. The reason is because people in Moscow/Leningrad didn’t care enough as long as Ukraine was slaughtered by some chechens, buryats, prisoners, low-lifers and alcoholics from the most remote and poorest parts of russia.
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A lot of those are the same people that went on the streets in February. This is just the single most notable change in Russian internal/external politics in months that could’ve lighten up the spark with less political public, hence the reaction — while all the other time those same people are protesting the war by different methods.

I doubt that the people that you think are getting out would’ve went out today, certainly not en massé. They’ll need time to understand what’s going on and to figure out the way to state their disapproval. And yeah, I fully share your frustration about that part of Russian society, especially those that weren’t truly convinced by Putin’s propaganda but simply went ahead with their lives since it was easier.
 
spiriticon said:
Even those in Iran have bigger balls

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What do you mean even Iran?

Stop being offensive, please.

So easy for certain people on here, who've probably never had to undergo that much real hardship, to turn their noses up at people who live in a country where the system can and does kill and imprison its citizens for prolonged periods of time without any justification.
 
NotThatSoph said:
Not to worry, you can be useful in other ways. You can go there to help distribute humanitarian aid, for instance. There are foreign volunteers in Ukraine doing all sorts of different tasks, If you're not in Ukraine right now it's because you don't want to. Not because you can't be useful in some way, that's an excuse and people with their balls in wheelbarrows don't need excuses.
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How big is too big when it comes to testicles in Ukraine? What if they become a landmark to help Russian artillery targeting?
 
Rajma said:

Unlucky lads
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Yeah, this is one of the biggest impacts of today’s mess and possibly even a more important one than the actual mobilization (at least short-term). The current contracted soldiers that were on short-term contracts (usually 3 months and most of them were signed in June) are now there indefinitely and they don’t have an option of nulling them void. And you’d imagine that not many of them would’ve signed a new one after what they’ve seen, especially with colder seasons incoming.

I find it hard to empathize with them but that is a huge blow.
 
NotThatSoph said:
Then you go sit in a field as a decoy.
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And how do you KNOW that I’m not already doing that? Why do you ASSUME that I’m not using the gravitational pull of my gigantic testicles to crash Russian satellites? I don’t need to prove anything to you.
 
Nazis are now forcibly mobilizing the men in Kherson/Zaporizhia regions under the freshly arrived Kadyrovites “help”. Pure genocide in its worst form, I’m not sure what US/Nato is waiting for by not delivering the most advanced weapons as quickly as possible! Ukraine clearly has an upper hand in the short-to-medium term and initiative on the battlefield why not let them fully exploit it?
 
Rajma said:
Nazis are now forcibly mobilizing the men in Kherson/Zaporizhia regions under the freshly arrived Kadyrovites “help”. Pure genocide in its worst form, I’m not sure what US/Nato is waiting for by not delivering the most advanced as quickly as possible!
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It does seem that NATO Is keen not to be seen to be overtly contributing to the escalation. If you look back over the last 7 months they’ve clearly supplied better and heavier weapons as time has gone on, but they’ve done a lot of it on the sly. No big leaps forward but a slow build up of pressure. Maybe I’m giving them too much credit.
 
NicolaSacco said:
It does seem that NATO Is keen not to be seen to be overtly contributing to the escalation. If you look back over the last 7 months they’ve clearly supplied better and heavier weapons as time has gone on, but they’ve done a lot of it on the sly. No big leaps forward but a slow build up of pressure. Maybe I’m giving them too much credit.
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That’s how it should be. NATO doesn’t need to go around chest beating, it’ll also be far more embarrassing for Putin if NATO stays in the background given Ukraine + better weapons is seemingly battering the hyped up Russians on their own.
 
Raoul said:
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As predicted though these small peaceful protests have amounted to nothing, unless moscow comes out in hundreds of thousands these protests will be crashed for the breakfast. It seems like I overestimated russian people will for resistance when I said that general mobilization will be the end of Putin. Everyone is for themselves in russia, it’s a lost and sad nation that I don’t think will ever be fixed unfortunately.
 
spiriticon said:
And how do you know I haven't or am not planning to? How do you know I have or haven't had a few refugees in my home?

Please. I don't need to prove anything. I will help in my own way.
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By doing those things are you in danger of ending up in a russian prison? Because that's the fate of those you're accusing of being cowards.

Massive respect to russians protesting and endangering themselves, but I would never criticize those concerned with their well being or families or call them cowards.
 
groovyalbert said:
It'll be months before concripts are ready for the battlefield surely? Unless Putin has gone fully lambs to the slaughter. I'd assume this is Putin onboarding next spring's military in the hope that Ukraine is unable to reinforce as fully as Russia after winter. It would be entirely in-line with Putin's thinking to rely on winter to come to Russia's aid once again. In reality, he's chucking numbers at a problem he's unable to contend with through technology, intelligence and knowhow.
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Lt. Gen. Hertling posted this thread right here.



His account of a first-hand contact with Russian basic and unit training a decade ago is categorical. It is awful and he knows since he supervised the training process for 150,000 rookie US soldiers in 2 years (2009-2011). The US has about 5 basic training sites (for a 10-week course) and 21 advanced training locations (advanced courses can vary in length). In comparison, Russia has one main basic training site and a rather unknown number of advanced training locations. If active Russian troops already look this poorly trained and poorly equipped, I can only imagine how worse it would be for reserves and former soldiers by the time they get there should they get there.

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The "partial mobilization" will only create a serious demographic imbalance in Russia because men will choose to leave the country ASAP. And I don't think that the POS sitting in his Kremlin ivory tower will even consider a form of mobilization of women; there has been none of that in the Soviet/Russian armed forces since the Second World War and that would be met with fiercer backlash.

There is always a moment when one must know that the elastic can no longer be stretched. Looking at the protests in Russia, it hopefully is that moment.
 
Huge reaction to this mobilization story, seems a bit overblown to me. Everything Putin does is primarily to the detriment of Russia and this is no different. Its more a problem for Russians than Ukranians.
 
tomaldinho1 said:
That’s how it should be. NATO doesn’t need to go around chest beating, it’ll also be far more embarrassing for Putin if NATO stays in the background given Ukraine + better weapons is seemingly battering the hyped up Russians on their own.
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completely agree, btw.
 
maniak said:
By doing those things are you in danger of ending up in a russian prison? Because that's the fate of those you're accusing of being cowards.

Massive respect to russians protesting and endangering themselves, but I would never criticize those concerned with their well being or families or call them cowards.
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I have never called them cowards. I think they are brave, but just not as brave as the Iranians or Ukrainians. Nothing will change in Iran I'm sure, but at least the President acknowledged the dissent publicly.

I'm just being objective when I say that these protests won't even cause the local Moscow sheriff to break sweat. Unpopular opinion? Maybe. In these videos, you have 5 police blokes beating the bejesus out of one poor soul while everyone else stands a 5 metre radius behind. I mean, seriously guys, help him out? What are people there for if you're just going to film people getting beat?

We need a little more to make the Kremlin think seriously about their position, otherwise the few brave guys are actually are being hauled off to jail for nothing. And now perhaps even hauled off to the frontlines.
 
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africanspur said:
What do you mean even Iran?

Stop being offensive, please.

So easy for certain people on here, who've probably never had to undergo that much real hardship, to turn their noses up at people who live in a country where the system can and does kill and imprison its citizens for prolonged periods of time without any justification.
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Agree 100%.
calling people cowards for not doing something you think you would do in the same situation when you have minimal idea of what that actually means in real life is despicable.
 
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