Russian invasion of Ukraine | Fewer tweets, more discussion
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100% on-brand.
I think earlier there were reports that he was involved in the tactical decision-making at the level of colonel, bypassing generals etc.
Very predictable, but hopefully stupid and dangerous - they must surely revolt, knowing that Putin does nothing to improve their lives and happily uses them to do his dirty work.
At least he will get to spend some quality time with daddy.
Proud of where he comes from, remember, although the place where from which he comes only sees him as cannon fodder.
I'm not sure what an IT specialist is supposed to do on the frontlines in Luhansk.
Best to defect immediately, focus on providing humanitarian aid in Ukraine in exchange for asylum and never return. His life in Russia is now done.
Best to defect immediately, focus on providing humanitarian aid in Ukraine in exchange for asylum and never return. His life in Russia is now done.
That is fecking scary. I've scrolled through and it's too big of a list to falsify — and you'd need an access to an enormous amount of private information on all men in Russia (full name, passport number, address, date of birth) to compile it.
I am not saying it's fake but this data and more can be compiled for pretty much every person on earth from various data leaks that have happened during the years. So it has as big of a chance of being some random filtered list as the real draft.
Yeah, of course. If you have an access to police/military/FSB database you can compile such a list.
That's fecked up.
Seems like a recipe for mutiny and attempted secession.
Perhaps the real nazis were the ones we became all along.
I would pay good money to punch lavrov in the face.
Tragic that many of them will never return home, all because they were forced to become cannon fodder to protect the megalomanical interests of one man.
Nobody is forcing them, if you’re a decent human being you take a prison sentence or hide if you can (Russia is massive and it’s difficult trace someone), now they’re heading for a certain death as Nazis. They would revolt if people would be dead against it 100%.
I think we should not underestimate the effectiveness of the propaganda. Many of those people most likely actually believe they are defending their country and will be seen as heroes.
Honestly, 15 years is a very long time - I'd not imagine that is an easy decision to make. Plus even if they could, I am sure they will be pressured into going anyway with stories of what would happen to them in prison. Hopefully a sizeable number defect.
It’s a tough choice between a 15 year prison sentence and the potential prospect of fighting for a period of time then returning to one’s family. No guarantees of course, especially since Putin has already moved the goalposts several times with previous soldier contracts.
All because of one man's ego.
Russian prisons are absolutely horrible.
Looks like they're playing with the old Stalin play book. The enemy may have more ammunition, but we have more bodies and they're cheaper. This could be a bloodbath. Hopefully the Russians will turn on Putin now.
I think the kind of sentence, threats to members of their families, and the repercussions in prison might just be said to be co-ercion. Of course they're being forced - given the choice I suspect very, very few of those young men would be there.
Same as they did during Afghan war. Went swimmingly.
This combined with 300k untrained reservists will result in nothing else than a huge bloodbath.
Are they being given that choice. I remember when we had conscription over here we didn't have the choice of going to jail in stead. You fought or were hung as a deserter
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Does anyone know how many troops Ukraine has on the frontline and what is their situation in terms of reserves, recruitment and training?
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This was as of 11 July but take it with a pinch of salt. I don't know if there is a independently verified figure. Just added a sky source don't know which one is true.
This is desperately sad to see.
I know at the end it’s people dying for little reason (in this war especially) but it’s different if it’s professional soldiers where if you choose to sign up there is a chance you might have to fight and get killed.
This is like cattle on the way to the abattoir.
I know at the end it’s people dying for little reason (in this war especially) but it’s different if it’s professional soldiers where if you choose to sign up there is a chance you might have to fight and get killed.
This is like cattle on the way to the abattoir.
China and India should abandon Putin completely.
Yeah yeah, it doesn’t take much convincing for them:
Until west understands that Russian people are real nazis nothing will change, it’s not Putin. Did you not see Paxi’s posts in this thread? Well that’s how at least 50% of russian think.
Nationalism is definitely a problem, but so is constant propaganda that supports the conditions for radicalization and dehumanization of Ukrainians. When you are limited on your sources of news and information, you are likely to buy into what the state is selling.
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Does the caf have a "biggest balls award"? I want to nominate someone.
I can help you with nominations:
Which one are you?
Now you have to have balls to say basic facts in this thread?