Russian invasion of Ukraine | Fewer tweets, more discussion
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Holy shit!
The one thing we can be sure of is he will get a say in what happens at his doorstep.
In the end that is what this is all about.
It obviously is costing him.
But Russia has what the West needs and vice versa.
Lets hope clear heads prevail in the end.
Too many lives already lost.
Ukraine are fighting to stop Putin having that say and it doesn’t matter a feck what Putin thinks he needs.
It’s not just the west anymore though; the whole world is coming together to isolate Russia. No one will back down either hence him having so many wobbles in the past few days.
If he think he can ride that out he’s even crazier than I thought.
The performance of Ukrainian air defenses vs Russian air power has been astonishing
Not quite. It's the West and Singapore, South Korea and Japan who joined in on the sanctions. As far as I can tell.
This is getting ridiculous. Zelensky is not Anne Frank. He has an army on the battlefield and Rubio -while he seems to have acted recklessly- certainly didn’t expose his exact location.
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It wasn’t a real meeting! They green screened him in!
I mean you just don’t go from sitting 10meters away from your closest circle to this in a day.
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The key players are the NATO countries and Russia.
I feel hopeful we will see some movement to de escalate the situation sooner than later.
No one wants this to go on too long.
Far too much uncertainly some nut does something.
Technically he wouldn't have been exposing Anne Frank's exact location either.
Excellent. The timing is also perfect as Japan is reopening their borders these days.
A number are becoming quite vocal about it and expect to join the sanctions in coming days and weeks.
I’d say this narrative that its purely the west that disapprove is wrong.
That makes sense.
So I assume no chance of it happening.
I wonder does the US have nukes near China for similar reasons?
It's more the performance of the cutting edge manpads that have been provided.
To be honest I don't like the celebration we've seen of downing these aircraft. The pilots are somebody's son or husband or father, and about as far removed from Putin's gang as the Ukrainians shooting them down.
What a powerful photograph this is.
Read half of that letter (not a russian, but can read, very slowly though), and some interesting points there:
Nobody from higher ups said anything about war. FSB were told to analyse all possibilities and ways the war could go. Then when the war broke out, higer ups started going ape shit, that everything didn't go to a T as they had analysed.
Kadirov is really pissed off. Almost started a conflict with the russians. He feels somebody from FSB blew the whistle on his troops, that got annihilated first days in.
Reckon they can't win anymore, there's no plan, just plodding along now. If they somehow get Kiev and remove Zelensky, they don't have anybody to step in and sign a treaty with.
Agrees as most, they won't be able to hold Ukraine even if they took it.
Nobody knows how much they lost, they kept track first 2 days, now it's all over the place. Could be 2, 5 even 10 thousand, thinks it's closer to 10000. Important note: thats without counting LNR and DNR casulties. Troops wandering off by themselves, even commanders don't know whether they died, deserted or got captured.
Their deadline is june. Then economy collapses.
Next week, one of the fronts will start to fall apart. No analytics, nobody knows anything for sure, chaos and instinctive actions.
Trying to scare the west into removing some sanctions.
Will attempt to put on Ukraine, that they secretly were making nuclear weapons.
Does anyone know how these rockets actually work? Do you aim several meters in front of the aircraft when you fire - all down to timing, or is there some kind of guidance system? In essence, does it take skill to hit that helicopter?
If this is true then Ukraine will be stupid to cede anything to Russia. It really looks like they could be driven out of Ukraine on their ass.
Yeah I can't say I have those worries when using social media. And as you say they're not even in Russia, but yet Russia choose to spend time and money on finding critical Russians on social media and then find their families in Russia just to suppress criticism.
Nice, thanks
Did they not get the choice to enlist in the Russian forces or is it forced upon them?
Ok read last bit too, not much to add apart from his thoughts on whether Putin could press the red button:
He says no and gives 3 reasons -
1. There is no "red button", but a chain of command. It won't be just Putin blowing shit himself,
2. Few doubts about whether it properly functions (chain of command i think). My lack of russian forbids me translating this, but think he means there might be breaks in that chain, where somebody doesn't really know how and what to do exactly (not sure on this),
3. He doesn't believe that somebody, who is afraid to let his closest advisors and ministers, be it because of covid or assassination attempt, is going to off himself like that. If you're that scared to die, how are you going to kill yourself and everyone around you like that?
I’m fully aware that the Ukrainians aren’t karate chopping Russian aircraft out of the sky.
As to the second bit… I’ve already spoke about this before. A Ukrainian victory is going to come at the cost of Russian casualties. I want Ukraine to win.
Exactly. The real world alternative to this Russian soldier dying is him killing Ukrainian civilians/soldiers.
Would love to know more about this bit, as losing Kadyrov would probably mean Putin's internal support is on the ropes.
Mentions Kadyrov built an all conquering powerful figure, but if things start going south, chechens are likely to take him out themselves.
Also important point I missed, says a "localized" nuclear explosion might be possible in Ukraine, but need to find a way how to pin it on them.
Don't know validity of the letter, but I take Cristo Grozev as a reputable source.
Seen a report yesterday or 2 days ago, saying they went in, got to first checkpoint/town/village and are refusing to go further. They were meant to link up on Kyiv front.
It's relatively easy if it's a US Stinger or similar. A bit of basic setup required to get it to lock onto the target and you do have to aim a little ahead for a fast jet (not a helicopter) but once its locked on and fired it uses infrared and UV to home in on the target automatically.