All about the optics. Russia knows it. We know it. But not enough for Putin to escalate. It’s semantics but semantics make a big difference at this level of tension.
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Unless a NATO military shoots at Russia, sinks a ship, etc. then its still Russia/Ukraine
Very good point actually.
Totally agree with this. The Russian army has been shown up to be tin pot. Their saving grace is that they have nukes... Otherwise America would have been in to wipe the floor with them already. I honestly think if they went to launch a nuke it would turn out to be like a damp firework... Prob get about 5 foot off the ground. Obviously the worry is that no matter how shite we think they are..... It only take 1 nuclear sub off the east coast of the US and it's game over
So did Germany and France, Putin still spoke to Scholz and Macron
I take those points. But that doesn't necessarily mean that they want a hostile Russia on their border, or an Assad regime whose military is rebuilt by Russia (I am leaving the long term impact of sanctions to one side).
What was the outcome of the downed Romanian jet couple of days ago in the Black sea?
The cynic in me thinks, everyone and their dog knows Russia is gonna win, they also know they can't get involved so we (the West) are fine with exploiting this. Its a case where the only viable course of action is to weaken Russia financially,
There is no way they are expecting Russia to overthrow Putin, maybe to slowly change their culture over time but this war is not gonna change Russia in the short term.
So imho option B above.
If this war is anything to get by ...
I think Israel are pretty fine. They have comfortably the strongest Air Force in that region, probably the strongest (or second strongest after Turkey) army, and have enough nukes to obliterate any country nearby.
Bad weather, most likely.
It was more the whole doing it in secret thing that was the issue as far as I was concerned.
Thoughts on Russia's lack of cyber warfare? Still yet to come?
Poor little lamb.
Israel would wreck them in a conventional fight
No. Shooting at someone with weapons made elsewhere doesn’t make elsewhere a belligerent.
I doubt the regime in Israel cares about Zelensky or sees him as a "real jew" at all. Actually, I think I remember reading that Zelensky resisted Trump's pressure to move their embassy to Jerusalem back in 2020.
I guess Putin invited Bennett in order to use the visit and project the image that he is not isolated. And Bennett had to oblige. It is all about your own interests and making sure that Putin (who controls Syria) understands you're sitting this one out and not his enemy.
Bad weather and an old MIG. Then a heli flew to the rescue to find it, crashed and 6 people died.
Apparently just an accident. If you like wild theories you can assume that they just tried everything they have if it still works in case they need it.
Israel can easily eliminate the Russian forces in Syria. Israel has a modern air force comparable to any advanced NATO country.
Hey dude, you probably answered this question before, but how hard is it for a Russian to find global news? And I have another question - have prices for ordinary household things gone up?
What if they are supplied by that person's.
I suppose that's what I'm having a hard time with, distinguishing the line between being actively aggressive and being defensive as NATO want to be.
I'd say supplying weapons in the open is aggressive, but hopefully Putin doesn't!
But I have had some good answers to my questions from various on here, so that's much appreciated.
I have no idea. I live in California, haha.
Apart from the financial hit to the currency, I don't think anything has changed dramatically yet. But as soon as the SWIFT ban hits most things are expected to start getting scarce and expensive.
I have no feckin' idea why, but I thought you were @harms. WTF? There isn't even an H in that post
Thanks! And what about news from the outside? Any idea?
No. In WWII, Britain was supplied by the US before the US ever got into the conflict. There were also wars fought by countries supplied by bigger powers throughout the entirety of the Cold War.
Absolute snakes. Not surprising if this was the case.
No one does land stealing better than Israel.
It was pretty much the defining feature of the Cold War. Proxy warfare was the order of the day. And usually the involvement was a lot more direct than the West in Ukraine today.
Sorry I just meant that Russia stepping into a totalitarian political situation, is that something that's a western narrative whilst the reality on the ground might be different?
We have too many commies in this place.
Disagree with that.
Pretty much this. Both used different tactics too but it’s blatantly obvious Russia is struggling.
Disagree.
The fact Putin is complaining and threatening so much indicates a man under pressure. He knows his country is crumbling.
It couldn’t be more true. And Russia was a pretty totalitarian state already, but this is different.
Well, 2-3 days ago the Russian MOD themselves confirmed 500 casualties while at the same time their Ukrainian counterpart claimed 9000 RU soldiers killed. Whilst we would like to believe the Ukrainian claims, the truth is probably somewhere in the middle. That would still mean 25-30x as many soldiers killed than US soldiers during the entire Iraqi war. And that is just after a week after the invasion started. And we have had 2-3 more days of battles since those reports came out. Also you have to take into account the staggering amount of tanks, armored vehicles, helicopters and airplanes lost in just a week. Add to that apparent logistic issues after just 3-4 days right across their own border (I mean, it is now 5-6 days ago we heard about the massive RU convoy on its way to Kyiv, and it still hasn't arrived) and it paints a picture of an invasion force that is struggling massively.
We can't be naïve because it's still early days, but so far Putin has managed to get the Russian army to completely lose their fear factor.
…yes there is.