Russian invasion of Ukraine | Fewer tweets, more discussion

frostbite said:
You need soldiers on the ground. It doesn't matter how much material or money you have, without soldiers you can't win a war. Ukraine has been bleeding for three years.

Let me add that our stupid leaders forbit Ukraine to hit inside Russia, till very recently that they changed this policy. For 3 years, Ukraine had the right to defend only. You can't win a war by defending only, especially not against dictators that do not care about casualties.

Yes, of course, we don't want WW3, but then why shouldn't Putin not invade the Baltics, too? Who wants to have WW3 for the sake of the Baltic States?
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On the last point, the UK and France's nuclear deterrent would have to cover the Baltic states. We don't have the number of armed forces necessary to defend them conventionally. Of course, Putin may well test the resolve of the UK and France, to see whether that deterrent would actually be used. A deadly game of chicken.
 
While an absolute shitshow. America has disgraced themselves in front of the entire world.

I also am not sure about this costing Ukraine. It’s very clear who the US is siding with and doing everything towards that.
 
harms said:
Again, conspiracy aside, what can they possibly have on Trump? He’s simply an amoral self-indulgent person with a fetish for authoritarianism — this gives Russia and Putin enough to manipulate him with.

The idea that he’s some kind of a sleeping agent/is getting blackmailed and, well, genuinely have Russia’s needs ahead of his own is… stupid. Every possible bit of blackmail that you can have on a politician is already public and Trump supporters simply don’t care. You’re talking about an open racist, a guy who committed rape (probably many times), countless frauds, including those that he got convicted for… heck, this is a guy who’ve tried to stage an actual coup.

Just to be clear: did he ever benefitted from Russia, monetarily or politically? Yeah, all the time. They’ve invested a lot in him, he suits their interests. It doesn’t mean that he’s theirs — he sees this as a win-win scenario where he either gets a massive profit from Russia or from Ukraine by blackmailing the latter into this absurd 500b deal.
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I'm not necessarily suggesting saying he's a full on puppet under their control. While his own ongoing actions do suggest that, it might well be that they are just working together, quid-pro-quo, collusion, etc, for each others benefit. Is that what you're saying? Doesn't add up for me, he can throw Russia a bone or two without all the other stuff he's doing to harm America at great risk to himself. Hell, he could destroy Putin with ease at this point and actually have something to back up his supposed 'ego'.

Given how easy a mark he is for the reasons you state, I don't see why they wouldn't have got something on him, to guarantee control, he's far too valuable not to. What exactly? Well, I'd expect its well beyond "pee-pee tapes", though it may have started there. Could just be massive debts from his various bailouts. Given what we know about his relationship with Epstein, it would be a stretch to believe he didn't 'partake', a lot, and that it wasn't all filmed. Epstein himself having his own ties to Simeon Mogilevich, the (Ukrainian born) Russian mob boss/godfather, through Ghislaine's dad, who reportedly introduced Trump to Epstein in the 80's, on a yacht later buys off a Saudi arms dealer. It was the son of another close acquaintance of Epstein, Donald Barr, who shut down Mueller's investigation into Russian collusion. An investigation where Mueller stated under testimony he would have indicted Trump if not for Bill Barr's ruling that a sitting president can't be indicted.

Trump's properties practically existed for laundering Russian money, he had kgb for neighbours, including another Russian mob boss Vyacheslav Ivankov, who was later tracked down to Trump's Taj Mahal before the FBI finally arrested him. This guy is known for torture and brutality, just shadowing Trump to do business I suppose.

Its all a bit mental, and out in the open. Perhaps too mental, so people assume it counts as a "conspiracy". Don't even get me started on the people he employed in that first term.

Shit like this too... I mean, c'mon.
 
Vance and his thankfulness rant is hilarious. The guy is out of his depth in this role. I mean, make a logical point, by all means, but he sounds like a twitter troll with the you aren’t even thankful bit.
 
amolbhatia50k said:
While an absolute shitshow. America has disgraced themselves in front of the entire world.

I also am not sure about this costing Ukraine. It’s very clear who the US is siding with and doing everything towards that.
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While I'm sure Ukraine will get through this in the end, I'm really not sure about the US.
 
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