Sweet tap dancing Jesus get that within range of the Kyiv convoy
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Sweet tap dancing Jesus get that within range of the Kyiv convoy
I also don't think that they'll give it up. Just as I don't think that there will be any option that does not involve a massive amount of suffering. There were over 30K people who died in the battle of Aleppo for example. Aleppo is smaller than Kyiv, and Russia is stronger than Syria.
If Kyiv does not surrender soon, I fear we might have hundreds of thousand of deaths.
That's what I think too! Too bad it looks pretty banged up though
I could see a tactical nuke used first by Putin, like an old Davy Crockett. What happens after would be anyone’s guess.
He'll have plenty of those once everyone starts phasing out theirs. Also good on you to make apologies for him not wanting a world war, just a wee war with Ukraine, it's fine lads.
The NATO cavalry is not going to come riding over the hill so what’s your proposed solution?
Think it's probably safe to say they have.
Look how terrible that ground is. Don’t think that fecker is moving anytime soon.
No fecking way China would involve military in a no-fly zone. And I think there is next to no chance they will join the sanctions.
Scary stuff. You can actually see the muzzle flash of the tank at 15 seconds.
I’m not making apologies for him? I’m stating that’s what he wants? This whole madman wants a war narrative is just childish. He’s an absolute Cnut but he isn’t after a nuclear war. That’s just a fact.
Please point me to where either was suggested ?
But they’re fighting for their country, again that decision is made. If they were worried by people dying then surely they’d have simply gave into Russians demands from the outset? They’re defending their country and I can’t see them ever giving up Crimea because Russia invaded them again. The loss of life isn’t on Ukraine and it’s unfair to put that on them imo
No idea why they have gone to war with a Porsche Cayenne though.
Yeah I was just reporting what I heard here and also giving my view that Putin will not leave the country with (from his perception) less than he entered it with (Crimea which he considered Russian and Luzhansk/Donetsk which he considered independent). It is right for Ukraine to fight for this and it is wrong for him to take it. Ukraine will have to cause Russia to retreat to take those lands back though which is very hard to imagine.
Also with the damage done already things will not be normal anyway. We are probably past the point of ‘it can be solved with negotiations’.
I am not putting it on them, neither saying that they are doing anything wrong, those people are heroes.
Just predicting that this will go that way.
Not the Holocaust. I also don't think Russification compares to the Holodomor, in sheer horror. I get that many Ukrainians feel like this is the end, but I just don't think evoking the Holocaust even for an aggressive war of expansion is right. Putin is not going to try to exterminate the people of Ukraine, he just isn't.
This is pretty much what I think but I think he also wanted a puppet russian loving government in Ukraine but his thinking is that even without that, his worst case scenario still gives him what you have described and all this nuclear sabre rattling is just to scare everyone thus putting more pressure kn the west to back a better deal for russia to de-escalate.
Interesting points, time will tell if you are correct. Russian experts in the media who have followed Putin for years don't seem to agree that his ambitions stop at part of Ukraine.
Assuming you have kids, we'll rather sacrifice your mom and one kid, you can keep your dad and the other kid.
I doubt he could even start a nuclear war considering what we have seen so far from the Russian military.
Do we have to keep posting Marco Rubio tweets? It's not like they have any new information, it's literally just Marco Rubio's take on events.
I agree with you. If Russias conditions are honestly just independence for the 2 breakaway regions, recognition of Crimea as russian and ukranian neutrality. Ukraine should take that.
The left guy seems oddly familiar. Think he's in one of the photos in this thread posing with Kadyrov, iirc, must be high ranking.
Well written and sounds like a very likely outcome
Yes. His tweets are grounded in far more reality than any other tweeter in this thread.
I agree with you, will be hard for the Ukranian army to go on the offensive and regain land. I wish it could be the case but think it is unlikely.
This is early days and we're sort of looking for decisive victories and/or a negotiated settlement to arise quickly. But there's a chance this conflict could stretch out over months to even years at a lower intensity, which would cause even more suffering.
And the sanctions remain? Or does Putin get literally everything he wants by starting a war?
More chance of him blowing his own cock off the way his military service has been fumbling around
The EU would accept...
What makes you think that it is up to the EU to decide where and how Ukraine is carved up.
Bit more on this, the claim was made by Ukraines head of security council. Also states, they were tipped off by russian FSB insiders, who don't want to partake in this war. Plot thickening or misinformation?
I thought that as well. Wasn’t he one of Kadrov’s generals who was killed when his convoy got bombed en route to a Ukrainian city?
Zelinsky's position is that Ukrainians won't give up an inch of Ukrainian land, which is the correct position imo.
This whole accepting giving parts of Ukraine to Russia business is crazy.
Imagine it in England for a second, we'll just take Lancashire and Yorkshire please and you can keep the rest. The way people just back down due to threats is mental.
I actually agree we shouldn't be sending troops, but let's leave the decision on what Ukraine should accept to Ukranians maybe?
Imagine it in England for a second, we'll just take Lancashire and Yorkshire please and you can keep the rest. The way people just back down due to threats is mental.
I actually agree we shouldn't be sending troops, but let's leave the decision on what Ukraine should accept to Ukranians maybe?
He’s honestly had such a resurgence since this started, actually using his access and then tweeting quite factually it would seem.
Just did a bit of google research, and yes, indeed that's him. He was offed couple of days ago.
It’s troubling, and the more I think about it, Putin is a madman who is hell bent on maintaining his power in Russia and exerting ‘ maximizing his world influence. But either it was a gross miscalculation, or he is deluded to think that he’s going to “win” anything from this move. It smacks of Hitler and his irrational confidence in invading Russia.
* The economic sanctions will cripple the Russian economy. For a country that has a huge gap in standard of living between the haves and have nots, and a very small middle class, the effects will be widespread.
* Suddenly, very powerful oligarchs will see their assets frozen, and more importantly, their ability to continue business operations, revenues and profits in the west will be severely hamstrung.
* Let’s assume Putin gains control of Kyiv and most of the country? Then what? He’s going to have to deal with massive insurgency. The economic sanctions won’t be lifted as long as he has a finger in Ukraine. Even installing a puppet regime won’t change the economic sanctions.
His only hope is that he can get a stalemate, say, for Ukraine to agree to not join NATO and in return, the sanctions are lifted, but Ukraine’s borders remain unchanged and they continue as a self determined democracy. But he sort of had that option before the war and without firing a shot.
* The economic sanctions will cripple the Russian economy. For a country that has a huge gap in standard of living between the haves and have nots, and a very small middle class, the effects will be widespread.
* Suddenly, very powerful oligarchs will see their assets frozen, and more importantly, their ability to continue business operations, revenues and profits in the west will be severely hamstrung.
* Let’s assume Putin gains control of Kyiv and most of the country? Then what? He’s going to have to deal with massive insurgency. The economic sanctions won’t be lifted as long as he has a finger in Ukraine. Even installing a puppet regime won’t change the economic sanctions.
His only hope is that he can get a stalemate, say, for Ukraine to agree to not join NATO and in return, the sanctions are lifted, but Ukraine’s borders remain unchanged and they continue as a self determined democracy. But he sort of had that option before the war and without firing a shot.