Exactly my point as well.
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Exactly my point as well.
Good on him. In fairness, it's an easier position to take when they're doing what is ultimately their version of winning. Hopefully, we don't have to find out if that remains if the conditions worsen on the ground.
That would only embolden Putin, unless perhaps all sanctions remain in place for an extended period of time.
“Crazy” Russia will nuke us all eventually, might as well defend Ukraine then.
What aren’t you willing to concede to a crazy dictator threatening to end the world?
He also has access to information before it actually unfolds on the ground, which is quite useful.
I find them interesting, he sits on some intel committee doesn't he?
Same as we've always done, keep the sanctions innolace and gradually remove them once peace and stability returns (could take a decade) or do what we do with Iran like have sanctions but still buy their gas and oil.
Yeah, looks like Magomed Tushayev but the beard kinda make them look alike.
Of course the final decision is up to them, but I don't think it's wrong to debate what you would personally accept if you were Ukrainian.
If Zelenskyy says no land given, then no land is given and I fully support it.
That said, it's taken the Russians so fecking long to restock that I am slowly losing the will to live. Just give me that Russian passport....
So many places to denazify.
I’m expressing the limited nature of his options, I’m sorry if that upset you.
I am not thinking anything, I am just parroting “experts” discussing this matter on TV… the level is not different from twitter experts or this same topic… only the US intelligence seems consistently getting it right, and if nobody relevant is making stupid declarations any more it is because (“experts” are saying right now…) they are all trying to broker some deal.
Surely if Putin is not after the whole of Ukraine, it's 'smarter' for him to do his scorched Earth approach and get peace. His budget can hardly handle rebuilding Ukraine as well.
I don’t know what that has to do with the post. China can do nothing to stop Putin if he has gone crazy, that was my point there. They can pressure him economically if economy still matters for him though.
He does, and is also a member of the gang of 8
https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gang_of_Eight_(intelligence)
What choice will they have?
He's not going to attack the UK and invade us. We aren't of interest to him.
He's also not going to nuke us or he'd get the same back ten fold.
So no he's not much of a threat to us specifically. He's more of a threat to Europe as a whole than just us.
Turn it round and fire it home
That’s not a helpful comparison. Britain is an island with, needless to say, fixed borders, and, within that, England is just about the oldest nation state in Europe. Ukraine has existed an independent entity since 1991 and only for very brief periods before then. It is a separate nation rather than an appendage to Russia or Poland but I don’t see the reason for an absolutist view of its territorial scope when the price is so high. If they emerge without Crimea and potentially without the Donbass but with a meaningful NATO security guarantee and a roadmap to EU integration (and without their country being razed while we cheer them on from armchairs in Western Europe), that is a big strategic win in the grander scheme of things.
Russia is going to heavily rely on China for everything it’s being denied by the West. China can shut down the Russian economy at this point.
He’s burning his bridges with his biggest ally, and acting like all this only effects Western Europe. Local skirmishes are one thing, I doubt the BRICS countries want to see a wider conflict.
Absolutely, or aim it at that convoy.
They will be losing most of their natural resources. After what the botox has done, they are not letting the Crimea and Donbass to be taken away from them.
There is no ceiling to Putin’s demands. And unfortunately it’s not only Putin. The regime in Moscow seems to be on the same line. The propaganda machine currently at work in Russia will make sure there is enough support to “denazify” other countries if needed.
As I said before, if we give him yet another win he (Putin or whoever replaces him) will be back in 5/10 years for more.
As I said yes, if those things matter.
If he has lost it, then China cannot help. Only his cronies can.
And Ireland!
The problem is though that Russia bears a lot of resentment to the West following the collapse of the USSR and so yet another defeat and a collapsed economy would add yet more fuel to the fire.
He should challenge them to a game of hockey to settle matters. He's really good:
Now that’s like a fecking video game.
He set his final cog into motion after talking to chinese president at the olympics. He must've been well reassured to start this, so if anyone can stab him in the back right now, it's them.
Crimea is gone for good - I can’t imagine any scenario short of WWIII where Russia hands it back. Donbass is probably retrievable as it is more of a pretext for Russia rather than something they genuinely care about.
FFS if I see Putler or Botoxface one more time then I hope Facelift Squidward just presses the red button and blows me up.
Fight on, not give up. Frankly, they could, and at the end of everything, they can all come to Europe, which is surely ten times better than the Ukraine anyway. Obviously not home, but away from MadVlad and in countries where they will have more opportunity.
I don't know how realistic it is that China apply pressure to those around him aka do something or we can no longer continue to provide economic support.
It’s so cringey.
Sorry to inconvenience your Redcafe reading experience. Putler is a cnut though.
That’s beardist.
I know that Crimea is gone. What I was implying at was that after the botox face's actions, Zelenskyy is not going to give those areas away formally.
Putin and his war crimes targeting civilian buildings and killing children is disgusting.