What's going on at Ukrainian borders is completely fair play for this thread imo. As for the other topics, there are countless other threads in the CE already discussing them, so its probably best to use one of those threads instead of one dedicated to Russia/Ukraine.
Russian invasion of Ukraine | Fewer tweets, more discussion
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What's going on at Ukrainian borders is completely fair play for this thread imo. As for the other topics, there are countless other threads in the CE already discussing them, so its probably best to use one of those threads instead of one dedicated to Russia/Ukraine.
Has Zelenskiy even slept, you think?
The USA is a good example actually. We've seen how war hungry they are, how they bring in various countries together and cause chaos and then dip out of a situation. We've seen how much they love destruction, and leaving chaos behind when they retreat/lose wars (see aghhanistan).
It will be very ugly I'm afraid the Ukraine we knew won't be anymore.
Are the talks on the border happening tonight?
What kind of nuclear facilities are we talking here?
Power stations I assume
They have 4 powerplants with 15 reactors between them
Around half Ukraine's power comes from nuclear I think
no problem, I guess I played with fire there and my joke was neither good nor understandable
100%. Russia should remain a total international pariah until Putin is no longer in power. It's unfortunate for the Russian people who want no part of this, but it's how it must be. Otherwise, he will just find another target 3-4 years down the line.
At this stage, it is clear that the underlying reason for this war is the resentment towards democracy and the Western way of living, which also motivates a number of whataboutist posts over this forum and here.
Russia (and maybe China) final aim is to annihilate Europe and the US in order to destroy individualist societies and control their own populations, towards they know better what communal goal, if any and if one they have to sell (nope, really not, they are just oligarchs and burecrauts, that’s why people prefer democracy wherever they can). This is not solved easily with talks, especially if or when China starts doing their Taiwan job, at different level of equipment, attitude and threat.
I bet Putin (and maybe Xi) are still evaluating selectively nuking Western Europe and the US. What kind of world would remain, after they wipe 1/5 of the inhabited planet out? Can they survive the environmental clusterfeck, in case? That’s the point, imho, with Ukraine just being a dummy, a test case for the resilience of the West.
Russia (and maybe China) final aim is to annihilate Europe and the US in order to destroy individualist societies and control their own populations, towards they know better what communal goal, if any and if one they have to sell (nope, really not, they are just oligarchs and burecrauts, that’s why people prefer democracy wherever they can). This is not solved easily with talks, especially if or when China starts doing their Taiwan job, at different level of equipment, attitude and threat.
I bet Putin (and maybe Xi) are still evaluating selectively nuking Western Europe and the US. What kind of world would remain, after they wipe 1/5 of the inhabited planet out? Can they survive the environmental clusterfeck, in case? That’s the point, imho, with Ukraine just being a dummy, a test case for the resilience of the West.
Ffs. Hopefully, this will be taken care of soon.
War is so filthy and hypocritical. Citizens of corrupt country A claim they're innocent and corrupt free, whilst country B is the corrupt country. Country B claims the same about country C, and we go round in circles until many of us are dead and our leaders remain.
I guess in war, the only country that's right and has the right to defend itself is the one you live in or your ally
I guess in war, the only country that's right and has the right to defend itself is the one you live in or your ally
As wrong as he is and as horrible as what he’s saying is, that’s probably a big factor for some people. There’s a large proportion of people who simply don’t care about anything outside their bubble, Ukraine is close enough to make a lot of Western people take notice and Russia are obviously known across the globe. More so, it’s the first time I can remember where it hasn’t just been a US, Russia or China attacking some small country/province - Ukraine is a massive country, it’d be like the US attacking Canada or China attacking Japan.
Yep. The propaganda in Ukraine is also big factor and you never know where the next government will direct to. It will be literally divided into west and east. It has been a process of 8 years which Putin was instilling separatists in various regions.
The only positive thing coming of this situation is that he pretty much severed all ties to the west and the Ukrainian population as a whole.
Can’t see it turning into a satellite like Belarus, like he probably thought. It will be a civil war before the majority of the population accepts a pro-Russian government.
He most likely will still try to pull it off as he gone too far and hope NATO doesn’t end up subsidising his next military operations with the weapons sent to Ukraine..
@harms Russians on here please spread this video of former VDV soldier in your circles so that as many army men could see it:
No chance
The invasion summed up in one tweet
Putin: Accept all our demands Ukraine, or we will drop an H-bomb on your territory.
World: If you drop a bomb, we will bomb Russia.
Putin: If you bomb Russia, we will bomb you.
Putin drops the bomb, because he knows the world don't want total annihilation. Ukraine surrenders.
Please tell me we're not heading this way.
World: If you drop a bomb, we will bomb Russia.
Putin: If you bomb Russia, we will bomb you.
Putin drops the bomb, because he knows the world don't want total annihilation. Ukraine surrenders.
Please tell me we're not heading this way.
what you need is a single ice cube, mate. Just cause it might be the end of the world doesn’t mean you have to ruin a perfectly good whisky.
You are working under the assumption Russia would not be nuked back. They would.
I don't see that happening. Not least because China won't let it, and they are pretty much all Putin has at the moment.
i would call this smart desertion
It’s all looking very half arsed so far. Can’t imagine that’s going down well in Moscow.
How does Russia (and maybe China) nukes Europe and the US without being nuked back to oblivion?
Are you sure this has not been staged?
There is absolutely no chance that China is discussing using nuclear weapons on the west.
Without western trade and exports, China dies as a nation.
Western governments openly saying they'll send lethal equipment is astonishing. Nobody's even hiding it anymore. Incredible days.
There is also no possibility of a nuclear war between the US and Russia which will end without hundreds if not more nukes hitting China.
Watch this space
They don’t
Yeah, China is still in restraint / neutral mode… once they get the evidence they need for their own use, Xi will maybe call Putin’s bluff (?) and end this farce without further escalating the conflict. I really hope you are right, folks.
Do you honestly believe the UK would stand a chance against Russia in a war?
It really seems like you want Russia to prevail here.
Bizarre series of posts, to say the least
Pretty sure I can organise a better invasion than Putin
Putin's attack can rival ours at the moment.
definitely weird posts, but I guess he just can't believe that russia's military + planning is as shit as it really seems to be...incredible