Nevermind using a small nuke. The mere fact that Putin is waving the "I've got nukes" card is more than sufficient to remind the world of his state of mind.
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Nevermind using a small nuke. The mere fact that Putin is waving the "I've got nukes" card is more than sufficient to remind the world of his state of mind.
And ironically they had 5,000, and signed a treaty with Russia, the UK and USA promising that in exchange for getting rid of them, their sovereignty would always be respected.
Echoes of Belgian neutrality post-Waterloo and 1914?
Launching a nuclear missile is no easy task even in the 21st century. And the launch will not go unnoticed. Then, I am sure, some other state retaliates.
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Bit of a feck up then really? We should start issuing NATO membership out for any country that sends in a stamped, addressed envelope
One tactical nuke in Kiev.... I'm not sure everybody would see that over the red line (that triggers mutual assure distruction)
Seems more plausible as a starting point than nuking a NATO member
How much tactical planning support do you think the US are giving Ukraine? I wonder if the US generals are pretty much calling the plays.
The U.K. would respond themselves. We have a trident sub always at sea for this very reason.
Hopefully the Russians themselves see Putin for the meglamaniac he is/has become and there’s some sort of internal coup to bring this to an end.
I can’t see the Ukraine invasion coming to any sort of conclusion with Putin staying in power.
I can’t see the Ukraine invasion coming to any sort of conclusion with Putin staying in power.
Brexit means Brexit
Ffs, your even so called "small" nuke constitues a genocide. The aggressor will be dealt with immediately.
It’s what should have been done beforehand to prevent any of that happening but better late than never
Ukraine aren't in NATO but yes it would be an absolute travesty. I just hope someone in Putin's circles ends him if he starts down that path.
We still have some Carter air raid sirens in cities for nuclear war.
Here is one being tested in Portsmouth:
As long as Boris said so in his letter!
I know they’re not in NATO. I meant given how NATO have reacted so far it’s hard not to see them reacted to that too, and not just with sanctions. Putin clearly didn’t expect a response like this from NATO members to the invasion.
Exactly, and basically everyone is calling his bluff now. More and more countries are openly damaging Russia's economy. Nobody is stepping back sh!t scared.
Only defensive equipment, mind. In other words, what the Germans were laughed at for, though I guess expectations are lower for us. Hopefully we send more than 5000 helmets, at least 6000.
To which currency?
UK would nuke Russia most likely in retaliation. They have 4 subs which should be able to carry 48 nukes each (always at least one of them is in water, but I think now more if not all are in water). When a prime minister is elected he writes a letter to the captain of those ships that can be opened only if they cannot contact the chain of command for 4 hours.
Apparently the letter can have 4 options: retaliate, go under US command if it exists, go towards Australia, and use your own judgement. So far, no letter has ever be opened.
Who knows what Boris has written but obviously retaliate is the safest option. So if is retaliate, you can expect Moscow and another 50 or so large Russian cities being burned in return.
And that is without the US retaliation which will obviously come.
I'm pretty amazed to learn how archaic some of the systems at play are
Still, it's pretty bulletproof (or water tight
?)I think so, that if they use a nuke it is most certainly a small tactical one in Ukrainian forces.
The problem though is that then we are in a completely unknown unknown scenario. What is US retaliates with a small tactical nuke to show that they are not accepting getting bullied.
NATO striking back means that the world as we know it probably ends.
Us Dollar $ I think
Are you for real? The moment the launch is detected, NATO planes and submarines are on the way.
Is it possible to intercept and stop a nuke once it's in flight, or is it a case of nothing being able to stop it before it reaches its destination?
Source?
I think that's a lot more likely than the US and UK nuking the entirety of Russia. Hopefully, at least.
The US would yes. The UK and US are directly aligned in everything.
Yes. But the problem is a lot of the newer ICBMs have countermeasures to counter it
Looking at the state of Russian tech though, I think our counter measures will still work....hopefully
Is this on some kind of future? A quick Google says it's in the 80's.
These systems exist, but in the event of full scale nuclear war, they wouldn't be able to stop many of the nukes at all.
Weird obsession? They are the only other truly big player on stage, they are not a democracy a la Europe or US, they have an underlying, antagonistic line in common with Putin and they are apparently neutral in this escalating war.
The response from the west might be equally escalatory, though
Morbid curiosity at this point, but do we know if there a match between cities in case of a nuclear strike. Let's say russia nukes sheffield instead of london, the UK wouldn't nuke moscow but an equivalent city. Is this a thing?