That's not the real reason. They tried to take control over the mercs from him. He knew that was it for him and decided to go with a bang.
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Spare a thought for Mearshimer as well.
Mearsheimer calls Chomsky just to verify they're still blaming all of this on American imperialism.
it never did disappear from the radar btw...weve gone from tracking south american journeymen footballers flights to mad russian dictators...
So this is how it ends
It’s mad. My friend is spamming me with these tweets so figured I’d stick one in here
It's obviously not now or never since it's not a ground-root uprising.
Orban may be a bit more nervous today as well.
No, but it's Putin at by far his weakest. You won't ever get a better opportunity.
Let’s say Prigozhin’s coup is successful and he takes control of the country, would he be any better than Putin or worse? Guessing it’s the latter, based on his track record of brutalism, warmongering, and propaganda?
It's a while since any air traffic was crossing Russia. When I went to Japan last summer, we flew over the North Pole.
I've a feeling Putin won't pass the medical!
Unless he's immortal, there'll be a pretty good chance when he's dead I reckon.
And the geopolitics thread
Any word on whether Twitter reports of some army units defecting to Wagner are accurate ? Would be an ominous sign for Putin if true.
Bad day for the Russia can go on with the war indefinately brigade.
He would not have the level of control that Putin has, and there would be a significant amount of resistance and in-fighting among the oligarchs. I think the most likely outcome would be a fairly substantial period of instability in Russian leadership. Putin has intentionally prevented anyone from rising to a level that could challenge or replace him. All of this would be good for Ukraine since the military efforts would inevitably be in chaos (again, because Putin has intentionally weakened the military to prevent any challenges from them).
Yesterday, Prigozhin went out against the war itself, though. If he thinks the war is pointless, why would be continue it if he succeeds in taking Moscow (which I have no belief he will anyway).
That could still be years. If modern medicine can keep the fat lumbering hairy bollock Trump alive then it can do the same for Putin.
I can’t imagine he’d be much better if he was given full control, however my take on this is that this is much more about the Russian people and being able to see who they want in power. They may perhaps see the power they hold themselves rather than being fed constant propaganda
This whole saga may be a bit of a wake up call for them.
I think that’s a hopeful outlook, not convinced it’ll play out that way though.
No one knows. Prigozhin says so but his words mean nothing.
What's your solution?
I think it's way too early to even speculate but in the interim it's still way too easily overlooked how many yes men Putin put in power at all levels of society. If it does indeed fall apartt it will be like a house of cards with people fighting over the ashes and at that point it seems anyone's guess what the end result will be. He may have to end up being a kingmaker to prevent total societal collapse. Fear has ruled that society for decades, fear is likely what Prigozhin will need/want to use as well.
It looks to me that this war is mainly still going on, because Putin backed himself into a corner. Prigozhin doesn't have that dilemma. He could blame it all on Putin and trade a retreat for some Western favours.
COBRA meeting now. I'm sure they'll sort it. I'm being sarcastic.
conveniently forgetting its actually those on the right predominately in the US who if not openly supporting Putin, were certainly questioning Zelensky and need to support Ukraine.
Have you seriously thought that argument through?
It's interesting how relatively limited the big media has been in providing many of the updates we see on Twitter and other social media. Wouldn't be the first time social media is faster to update but I take everything with a heavy grain of salt. Russian misinformation spreading has already been an issue when it comes to other places in the world, we re now probably just seeing what it has typically done to its own population as well.
Has Corbyn called for Putin to stand down and bring the peace?
Can’t believe we may actually be witnessing the demise of a superpower and the end of 24 years of Putins reign.
he wouldve if he wasnt neutered by Putin funded Tories and Israeli lobby groups.
How long before top minds blame this on the US/NATO like they have been during this whole conflict?
I actually, as far as I know, agree with him on everything other than this. On this though he has disgraced himself.
Tbf America aren't exactly innocent in any conflict currently going on.