Russian invasion of Ukraine | Fewer tweets, more discussion
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I'll be pleasantly surprised if anything real actually happens, but I won't get ahead of myself.
There's something happening here. What it is ain't exactly clear.
If nothing else happens, this is still a massive embarrassment for Putin and further undermines his disastrous campaign in Ukraine.
I'll echo what was said a few posts back - I hope Ukraine can take full advantage of this chaos.
I'll echo what was said a few posts back - I hope Ukraine can take full advantage of this chaos.
The cynic in me says that I'm not sure that things are what they seem.
If Prighozin really wanted to torpedo Shoigu once his scrotum-looking head gets ventilated, he would turn over all his intel and information to the Ukrainians. Setting Shoigu up for failure would be one way to hopefully lead to his demise even after inevitably Prigozhin dies.
But they have basically declared war on the Russia military. How do they de-escalate the current situation to avoid outright battle and then continue underground to the point where they can slowly ferment a coup from within Moscow and still not either get exposed or have to fight the military/security forces?
Where's muttering hardman Kadyrov and his army of Klingons when you need him.
What's that sound?
Unless this is political theater (doubtful), I think Prigohzin is going to end up getting arrested and or killed very soon. Unless of course his cartoon rebellion manages to gain traction.
Now we will find out how loyal his Wagners really are. They are not soldiers, but mercenaries. And even if Wagner's inner circle follows Prigozhin, it doesn't mean that the soldiers are ready for a suicide mission. They care only about the money.
The Russian intelligence will try to hunt him down as fast as possible and if he's not completely naive, he should have expected and prepared for it.
Now the GRU gets into the game...
I don't get it..
How does it not end poorly for Prigozhin? Madness.
How does it not end poorly for Prigozhin? Madness.
Invoking the Praetorian guard might not be too fitting here. If he had a real Praetorian guard, they would have sold him out immediately.
Reposted. Damn Lookner.
I repeat my statement that all this again only benefits one person, which all feels a tad too convenient. If Erdogan can stage a coup attempt, so can Putin.
Interesting.
Was it another flaming penis?
I can't go to sleep now. Have to see how this plays out.
I hear ya. Got a baseball game to watch in an hour. Gonna have to double up the screens tonight.
I find it hard to believe Putin would allow for Wagner to become a threat to him personally. Most experts seemed to have indicated Putin used Wagner as a convenient tool when needed but would always prioritize the MoD.
So what are all the Wagner mercenaries in Syria, Mali, etc. doing tonight?
He'd be nuts to turn himself in, as he will never be seen again.
Was about to head to the gym. May have to reschedule.
They're probably screwed since Wagner as an organization will likely cease to exist very soon.
Feel like if they can’t find/stop Prigozhin very quickly we’ll see this snowball into something huge. Much of what we hear about Russia is about the average civilian outside of the big metropolitan areas getting treated poorly, not getting paid well and not living to a high standard and those are the areas who have sent the most soldiers, recipe for a lot of RA support to grow behind Wagner.