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Big dick Vlad telling it like it is
Its right up there with "it was a perfect call to Zelennskyy".
It's reasonably effective under combat conditions, but it's not reliable enough for peace times. You would never claim a field to be mine free after using this.
I thought Bobby Jindal was already bad in the days, but this guy is really something else of an idiot.
This guy makes Jindal look like Obama.
I've no idea why he is being platformed as if he's some sort of legitimate candidate. He's unknown and barely old enough to run for President. His only claim to fame is getting Don Lemon fired.
It would be a very good deal for Ukraine if they want fighter jets that are built to operate in limited and harsh conditions. Before the Canadian government chose the F-35 after a bidding process, I was massively in favor of taking Saab's offer for the JAS 39 Gripen.
Russia moving tactical nukes to Belarus…thats real escalation in my eyes. Putin moaning about Ukraine getting tanks and F-16s, for the purpose of defending themselves, yet he does that!
this is really a pointless move
It's a symbolic move, trying to impress his own people. These probably won't even be the closest nukes to Ukraine or NATO and with their range and speed, a few hundred kilometers won't make any difference anyway.
Doubt it is, but even if it is, so what?
Are we going to just allow Russia to bully other nations cause they have nukes? No, i don't think so.
Russia can go a certain place.
Imagine living in the Donbas region and hearing this. “Yeah, you are gonna have to become part of Russia, so Russia and China will cancel their treaty. Sound good?”
These idiots can only see this through a business deal lens, when it’s a matter of life and death and not least national identity for the Ukrainians. Having worked closely with Ukrainian colleagues, I can tell you they fecking hate the Russians with a burning passion. They won’t stop fighting just because some doofus wants to make a deal to benefit the US.
Imagine living in Moldova and hearing about this, even though technically not in the conflict, cause Russia weren't going to stop with Ukraine, they wanted more, a lot more.
https://www.kyivpost.com/opinion/18299
There is another critical piece that counteroffensive commentators seem to be missing, and it may well be the most vital part of this discussion. Ukraine’s vast increase in attacks on Russian territory should be seen as an integral part of its counteroffensive. Bringing the fight to Russia will not only hollow out Vladimir Putin’s infallibility; it might also finally convince those in the West who have hoped to contain the conflict that in a war like this that is just not possible.
These attacks, perhaps more than anything else, have shown that Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy cannot be arm-twisted into accepting Pyrrhic victories. Maybe this will also lead Western leaders to conclude that they must give Ukraine everything it needs to win this war now and not in some far-off future.
Debra Cagan is a Senior advisor at the Atlantic Council’s Eurasia Center and former senior US State Department and Defense Department official.
There is another critical piece that counteroffensive commentators seem to be missing, and it may well be the most vital part of this discussion. Ukraine’s vast increase in attacks on Russian territory should be seen as an integral part of its counteroffensive. Bringing the fight to Russia will not only hollow out Vladimir Putin’s infallibility; it might also finally convince those in the West who have hoped to contain the conflict that in a war like this that is just not possible.
These attacks, perhaps more than anything else, have shown that Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy cannot be arm-twisted into accepting Pyrrhic victories. Maybe this will also lead Western leaders to conclude that they must give Ukraine everything it needs to win this war now and not in some far-off future.
Debra Cagan is a Senior advisor at the Atlantic Council’s Eurasia Center and former senior US State Department and Defense Department official.
feck the ECB.
His nukes are useless he actually uses them, which he can't because he knows it would be his own suicide.
Vlad still going on about Zelenskyy not being Jewish. Not a particularly surprising thing to say when you're attempting to justify attacking a country because you claim they've been taken over by fascists.
Hard man Kardyrov's blundering forces being assigned to protect Russian cities from their own insurgents.
It is interesting to read this after what I read today about a bit of a different perspective in a CNN article.
https://www.cnn.com/2023/06/17/europe/ukraine-counteroffensive-explained-hnk-intl/index.html
It also stated how RA has been adapting and how UA's main forces are yet to commit to an area.
I thought the manpads had eliminated the helicopter threat...
Its an intelligence assessment, so it has to be taken with a pinch of salt.
I just don't understand how any serious journalist can write that. Constraints on its manpower? They have more than enough. Constraints on help from abroad? The help has consistency increased day by day since this began and shows no signs of slowing down. UKRAINE may warm to a negotiated settlement???
Just the thought of nukes being moved to another country, for the purpose of a faster strike on Europe, scares the shit out of me.
No it’s what everyone was predicting. As soon as Russia can use its airforce more the real issues begin - as a defensive unit helicopters are trouble for armour because Ukraine doesn’t have enough anti air near enough. Where the old front lines were is fine, they had tonnes of the stuff but pushing south they really need an airforce of some kind or to think up some way of targeting low flying enemy aircraft. Can’t attack a defensive line without air support and not get a hammering.
Yeah but the Ukrainians have plenty of surface to air missiles, so the helicopters shouldn't be much of an issue.
All the information out there indicates that this is indeed a big problem right now. Now UA is attacking in smaller groups to protect themselves from air attacks. They have to do something about it quickly, or the loss of manpower (and equipment) will be insufficient to compensate for the gains they are making.
Not in range. That’s the whole point.
Very sickening.
They've had nukes in Königsberg/Kaliningrad for a long time already which is much closer to central and western Europe.
Ok I didn’t know that. So it’s seems like a pointless move on Putins part then.
It's posturing from Russia. I'm not an expert on the subject by any means but from what I've read if they wanted to launch Nukes, launching from Belarus rather than Russia won't really make a material difference.
As mentioned in other places in this thread if Putin even considers going down that route he is signing his own death warrant.
Yes it looks that way. Putin is running out of ideas maybe.