Russian invasion of Ukraine | Fewer tweets, more discussion

This bit made me chuckle....

"The incident provoked fury among Russia’s milblogger community".
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Isn't Putin supposed to be in South Africa at some point ? They should have a word with him while he visits.

How is he able to get there safely anyway? Even if he is perfectly safe, how does he feel safe traveling that distance?

Its a long, long way from Russia.
 
How is he able to get there safely anyway? Even if he is perfectly safe, how does he feel safe traveling that distance?

Its a long, long way from Russia.

Traveling there shouldn't be an issue since no one is going to attack his planes. The complicating factor is that Putin has an ICC arrest warrant which the South Africans would need to comply with, although I hear they are attempting to change their domestic law so the President of SA can decide whether or not to arrest someone (which would be their way of choosing to not arrest him if he came).
 
See the post above yours. The South African government may be able to get away with not arresting him at the BRICS summit in August.

I think is most likely that they will move to a BRICS country that is nit compliant to the ICC. Would create a crazy precedent and would not look good on SA
 
I think is most likely that they will move to a BRICS country that is nit compliant to the ICC. Would create a crazy precedent and would not look good on SA

It would be bad for any country to attempt to arrest Putin since he is still the President of Russia and Russians would simply respond militarily by attacking that country. This entire war has to therefore play itself out and result in Putin falling from within, and then assuming he survives, possibly face trial.
 
It would be bad for any country to attempt to arrest Putin since he is still the President of Russia and Russians would simply respond militarily by attacking that country. This entire war has to therefore play itself out and result in Putin falling from within, and then assuming he survives, possibly face trial.

Of course SA will not arrest putin. That is why they can move the summit to china or India where the warrant has no effect bc they didnt sign the treaty like brazil and SA

They have the BRICS summit and SA doesnt need to break or bypass an international treaty
 
Traveling there shouldn't be an issue since no one is going to attack his planes. The complicating factor is that Putin has an ICC arrest warrant which the South Africans would need to comply with, although I hear they are attempting to change their domestic law so the President of SA can decide whether or not to arrest someone (which would be their way of choosing to not arrest him if he came).

Why not though?

I know its not in the spirit of "normality", or even established rules, but if NATO can shoot his plane down, or force him down, i'd say go for it.

He is a wanted war criminal, russian leader or not, the western world should act like it.

But then, even Erdogan has invited him to Turkey, that sure is some pickle, literal NATO territory, so i guess nobody is really serious about this arrest warrant, its all for show.
 
Why not though?

I know its not in the spirit of "normality", or even established rules, but if NATO can shoot his plane down, or force him down, i'd say go for it.

He is a wanted war criminal, russian leader or not, the western world should act like it.

But then, even Erdogan has invited him to Turkey, that sure is some pickle, literal NATO territory.

There would be a few problems.

1. International Law isn't an actual thing if large nations can ignore it at will. There are about 40 countries who are non-signatories to the ICC (The US and Russia included), so it couldn't used as a pretext to arrest Putin.

2. Russia would attack any country that attempted to arrest Putin on a foreign trip, and if the arresting country were a NATO state, then that could trigger article 5 once Russia retaliated.

If it was a smaller non-nuclear state then it would be fairly straight forward, but the fact that its the world's largest nuclear power, which also happens to be an authoritarian dictatorship, this makes it unrealistic due to the above two reasons.
 
There would be a few problems.

1. International Law isn't an actual thing if large nations can ignore it at will. There are about 40 countries who are non-signatories to the ICC (The US and Russia included), so it couldn't used as a pretext to arrest Putin.

2. Russia would attack any country that attempted to arrest Putin on a foreign trip, and if the arresting country were a NATO state, then that could trigger article 5 once Russia retaliated.

If it was a smaller non-nuclear state then it would be fairly straight forward, but the fact that its the world's largest nuclear power, which also happens to be an authoritarian dictatorship, this makes it unrealistic due to the above two reasons.

Yeah, so his arrest warrant is all just for show, as i later edited.
 
I've never seen this before. Looks like they're attempting to clear the entire field at once.

As I heard Malcolm Nance say, "They have enough of these to clear a path from Kyiv to Moscow". I'm sure that's a slight exaggeration, but apparently they have a lot.
 
As I heard Malcolm Nance say, "They have enough of these to clear a path from Kyiv to Moscow". I'm sure that's a slight exaggeration, but apparently they have a lot.

I believe it. If it came from Nance it was probably a bit of exaggeration, but I generally believe they are well stocked with a lot of this stuff.
 
I've never seen this before. Looks like they're attempting to clear the entire field at once.

I saw a video of one a few weeks ago, and it’s really cool. It’s a relatively cheap rocket that tows a bunch of explosives on a cable (5 pounds of C4 per foot). The US version can clear a 100m by 8m strip.
 
I saw a video of one a few weeks ago, and it’s really cool. It’s a relatively cheap rocket that tows a bunch of explosives on a cable (5 pounds of C4 per foot). The US version can clear a 100m by 8m strip.

That's pretty cool. When I was in Afghanistan in 2002, the UN had to painstakingly go through small patches of field each day to accredit them as free of mines (also courtesy of the Russians). The fact that they can use this method now will speed things up tremendously.