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Regardless of what anyone thinks, our new structure moves quickly, as we've seen with our summer transfers. I know feck all about Amorim, but I have faith in our new leadership, as I’ve mentioned repeatedly since their arrival. It's clear he's their top choice, given how swiftly they acted to secure him.

Good luck to him—he’ll need every bit of it. From dealing with the press to questionable referee decisions and the injury proneness within the squad, he's in for a wild ride. As we've already seen with those Sky articles, any mention of United will come with a negative spin. Just yesterday, the Telegraph ran a negative piece about Ruud, and he was barely in the interim role for two minutes! I hope Amorim is ready for the relentless scrutiny that’s sure to come his way.
Maybe he could bring Jose as his assistant and put him on media duties. That would be fun!
 
I’ve seen a few videos on “Amorim-ball” and “How United will set-up under Amorim”, “Amorim tactics explained” etc and I just feel a bit numb to it this time. Everything that is being said now could also have been said about Ten Hag at Ajax before he joined: exciting play, clear philosophy, adaptable etc. The people making these videos had the same level of optimism about Erik. If anything the belief that Ten Hag would fix our problems was greater.

The things that are different with Amorim that are more worthy of consideration:

  • Erik was probably too damaged to fully benefit from the new structure and direction at the club. If Ten Hag was coming to us from Ajax now we would all be very excited about the potential. Unfortunately for him he came at a bad time and fell into the same old pitfalls of the old regime. Poor recruitment strategy, knee-jerk signings, off-field problems inherited like Ronaldo, Sancho, leading to a patchwork squad, bad results, unclear tactical direction, odd team selections, desperation. His star had already fallen quite far prior to the summer and the uncertainty of a new hierarchy above him has undermined him to the point of his position being untenable. Amorim shouldn’t have these problems and as the first managerial appointment of Ineos should have a solid backing
  • Personality. It was probably the biggest concern about Ten Hag when he arrived. Whether he had the charisma to win the dressing room, the supporters, the media. It was not as bad as feared but he still didn’t have the warmth to keep everyone on the bus with him. Amorim seems different and could win people over. He does seem more fiery too so there could be a concern if things go badly and he finds himself under the intense pressure Ten Hag has faced
  • Tactically Amorim is currently known to favour a back 3. This interests me but I’d feel more confident about him if he had proven success with a back 4 (maybe he has?). We have poor options at wing-back and can’t afford another squad overhaul. I’m hoping he is able to adapt his principles to the players we have at our disposal for this season and make the key changes he requires in the next summer window
Overall I’m cautiously optimistic. He seems successful, innovative and a good personality and will have the right support behind him off the pitch. I believe this group of players are better than they are showing and if they can just be reminded where the goal is then things could turn around quickly. I’m just not naive to be fooled that Amorim arrives as a far better coach than Ten Hag did.
 
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Sporting have released an official communication to their regulators saying that United will pay 10m euros for Amorim. It's pretty much confirmed at this point.
 
I would not be surprised if we see a winger there if he ends up going for wing backs. Maybe even a trial for Antony there at some point.
Antony is the only one who could maybe be coached into that role. Rashford, Garnacho and Amad are all wide forwards.
 
Think youre jumping the gun with Slot, and Chelsea have had 7 managers since 2019! Maresca has made an ok start but again Id hold fire on that front. Ten hag came 3rd and won a trophy in his first season which was an enormous improvement on the rangnick season. So I feel you're making unfair comparisons
Not sure what more you'd want from Slot, he's clearly just following the Klopp model and for Chelsea, I did say "Finally". They aren't going to win the title but they are scoring goals for fun which would be lovely at United, as we've clearly forgotten what those white things at each end of the pitch are for...

And I'm afraid, ETH's first season seems like a life-time ago, sadly...
 
Poor bugger will be going grey by the end of the season if he does join us, which having read about him I hope he does.
If he cherishes his looks it might be worth buying shares in that hair colouring stuff for men.
That's not the point. The point is he looks nothing like Ten Hag. We're avoiding baldies now. It's the new strategy under a competent structure.
 
Just waiting for Balague to report that Amorin has handcuffed himself to the gates of the Etihad stadium and is refusing to budge.
 
Sporting have released an official communication to their regulators saying that United will pay 10euros for Amorim. It's pretty much confirmed at this point.

We all know it happening, but its not officially confirmed until United put something out.
 
I like him and hope he will be good for us, but I am also a bit cautious.

What has he done more than Ten Hag before he joined us? He won two championships in a smaller league, Ten Hag won three. He did alright in Europe, Ten Hag made the CL semi final. Ten Hag failed miserably at United.

So we should never sign an exciting manager from a smaller league? Mourinho didn't succeed, should we never hire a manager who's succeeded at the top level and won Champions Leagues?

Moyes failed, do we never sign a manager with a lot of Premier League experience?

We have tried nearly every profile of manager, if we avoid them all now we will probably have to start getting player coaches. The point is that the football structure have scouted him, spoken with him and thinks he's our man.

To answer your question he's slightly different in that Ten Hag won Ajax first league title in 4 years whilst Amorim won Sporting's first in 19 years. So you could say right now he seems slightly more transformative whilst being 15 years younger. He is also clearly a far better communicator.
 
Sporting have released an official communication to their regulators saying that United will pay 10euros for Amorim. It's pretty much confirmed at this point.
10 euros??? That's what Rojo was worth
 
Maybe he could bring Jose as his assistant and put him on media duties. That would be fun!
Imagine that! :lol:

Unfortunately, I don't think Jose is the kind to accept being an assistant to someone else at this stage of his career. Hopefully Amorim picked up some things from Jose when he did his internship at United under him.
 
Because you dont watch other leagues?
true... I dropped by Sky Football channel two seasons ago but I have heard of lots of Italian and Spanish managers but sorry didn't do my thesis on Di Zerbe or Hürzeler
 
Impressed by how fast things have moved. Must have been plenty of ground work going on between INEOS and his people between the last international break and now.
 
Fans want leaks, then will complain about leaks.

When a board conducts its business thoroughly and like a proper club, fans moan that they havent done enough.

They clearly have been looking for a manager for a while. Its so obvious that work is being done in the background and we havent just gone, yep he is the man sack Ten Hag and lets negotiate.

These conversations have been happening for weeks now.

I was one of those worried about INEOS just continuing with status quo. I am glad I was wrong and they acted. But that's what I want. My complaints to be proven wrong. In any case us fans moaning should not mean much to them. Particularly if they have a plan in place or working on it.
 
Shame he'll have exactly one full-back available to him considering they're essential to his system. It'll be a rocky start but I think he's an exciting long-term choice.
From what people have said he tends to play wingers in those wide roles rather than fullbacks. Garnacho might be quite suitable on one side, but not sure about the other one since Rashford's workrate isn't enough and Amad probably doesn't have the physicality. Antony maybe? Perhaps Dalot or Mazroui for now.
 
I’ve seen a few videos on “Amorim-ball” and “How United will set-up under Amorim”, “Amorim tactics explained” etc and I just feel a bit numb to it this time. Everything that is being said now could also have been said about Ten Hag at Ajax before he joined: exciting play, clear philosophy, adaptable etc. The people making these videos had the same level of optimism about Erik. If anything the belief that Ten Hag would fix our problems was greater.

The things that are different with Amorim that are more worthy of consideration:

  • Erik was probably too damaged to fully benefit from the new structure and direction at the club. If Ten Hag was coming to us from Ajax now we would all be very excited about the potential. Unfortunately for him he came at a bad time and fell into the same old pitfalls of the old regime. Poor recruitment strategy, knee-jerk signings, off-field problems inherited like Ronaldo, Sancho, leading to a patchwork squad, bad results, unclear tactical direction, odd team selections, desperation. His star had already fallen quite far prior to the summer and the uncertainty of a new hierarchy above him has undermined him to the point of his position being untenable. Amorim shouldn’t have these problems and as the first managerial appointment of Ineos should have a solid backing
  • Personality. It was probably the biggest concern about Ten Hag when he arrived. Whether he had the charisma to win the dressing room, the supporters, the media. It was not as bad as feared but he still didn’t have the warmth to keep everyone on the bus with him. Amorim seems different and could win people over. He does seem more fiery too so there could be a concern if things go badly and he finds himself under the intense pressure Ten Hag has faced
  • Tactically Amorim is currently known to favour a back 3. This interests me but I’d feel more confident about him if he had proven success with a back 4 (maybe he has?). We have poor options at wing-back and can’t afford another squad overhaul. I’m hoping he is able to adapt his principles to the players we have at our disposal for this season and make the key changes he requires in the next summer window
Overall I’m cautiously optimistic. He seems successful, innovative and a good personality and will have the right support behind him off the pitch. I believe this group of players are better than they are showing and if they can just be reminded where the goal is then things could turn around quickly. I’m just not naive to be fooled that Amorim arrives as a far better coach than Ten Hag did.

Cautious optimism and excitement is the only reasonable route. There's always too much hope put on the next guy, it might take us several managers before we get back to challenging properly. That doesn't make it any less exciting to get behind this one for now, we just need to treat them as parts the same way we do players.
 
Bruno is a fantastic player, if Amorim can unlock him that will go a long way towards getting us back to our best, and getting Hojlund the service he needs.
if he gets Bruno playing as he did in his first six months at the club, it will be a minor miracle and go a long way to changing things
 
Don’t have the best feeing with this choice, although that is part rationale and partly just pure instinct. The 352 thing irks me a bit, and the fear that he has no idea how much of a step up in the size of the challenge this would be. We’ve had only two successful managers ever really, and have an unrivalled status. Dealing with the players here and the scavenging press is a lot to ask of someone so young and inexperienced. I’d have liked Xavi or Hoeness personally, or McKenna as a young option.

But then again, I think he’s different enough and this is crazy enough that it just might work!

You see the contradiction right?
 
City not being interested seems to make sense. Sounds like it is quite a passive and counter attacking style when not facing poor teams in Portuguese league. Would suit out players a lot better.
After witnessing whatever the feck Ten Hag was trying to do I'm quite happy to have a more pragmatic coach for now.
 
Well we've had a legendary one, a couple of Dutch ones and a special one.

Time for a hairy one.
 
That's it. I'm officially an old cnut! The United manager is younger than me!
 
If we go 2-4-3, at least we might finally be able to control midfield and not get out played by the Coventry Citys of the world. I've been saying we should have at least gone 4-4-2 to ease matters. Let's hope if he comes in, he can find a proven goal-scorer quickly
 
If we go 2-4-3, at least we might finally be able to control midfield and not get out played by the Coventry Citys of the world. I've been saying we should have at least gone 4-4-2 to ease matters. Let's hope if he comes in, he can find a proven goal-scorer quickly
Sorry mate if we play with one less than other teams no matter the formation we will get outplayed :)
 
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