sporting are certainly flying without him there now.
Ruben Amorim - Manchester United Head Coach
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) are here to discuss three 1-1 draws.
The first got us knocked out of the FA Cup, the next puts us in a good position in our Round of 16 Europa League game, and the latest was an actual decent performance against Arsenal at Old Trafford.
All hopes for the season now rest on the Europa League - does Amorim have the squad to win it?
I mean the difference between each place seems to be about 3m. So if we finish 12 instead of 15th that's about 9m. It's not nothing but hardly going to change our summer window.
yes, turns out our next manager after amorim was a massive racist.
Fair enough, I wasn't familiar with his game.
I understand not rating a player, but when it crosses into parasocial hatred, it does not sit well with me.
I'm not sure if it was clear but I agree with you.
Made me laugh. Which is lovely. Football isn't exactly a hoot right now.
I know I just wanted some more time on my soapbox.
The higher we finish the fewer children in need piggy banks get raided by Sir Jim.
With 9m we could sign and sack 2 DOF instead of one.
People who make tons of money still are just people who have feelings, get depressed or happy, nervous/anxious etc.
If anything big salaries create more expectations which can be tough for young men to deal with.
Antony worked hard whereas Sancho and Rashford did not, so they have been rightly shown the door.
No to try and move on from a footballing perspective and change the attitude of the team. If the manager is this down about the whole thing the players and therefore results aren’t going to improve anytime soon.
He won’t get the sack, not unless we’re genuinely in danger of getting relegated.
No, not really, he started off with the honesty which I was all for and said it as it is, but there comes a time when you have to try and switch the atmosphere, he needs to try and rouse the team not keep giving them ready made excuses for playing crap.
Or maybe I’m missing a lot of positive things he’s saying. If I am fair enough.
I’d be genuinely curious to see someone like big Sam manage us. Just to see what happens
Maybe we could get Max Allegri until the end of the season, he is a tactician which is what we needed rather than someone set on a certain way of playing
We should definitely spend a fortune so we can push for 12th rather than 15th.
Let me clarify. I know I’m in the absolute minority here but I actually think the abundance of data that we have now has impaired our ability to acknowledge the ‘shades of grey’. Data provides an easy crutch to lean on - we are less likely to consider ‘the bigger picture’ or to think independently around issues such as player and managerial performances because the data is taken as gospel.
I’m not saying data hasn’t improved punditry and analysis- it definitely has but it has also come at a hidden cost.
I would say that it's the complete opposite. Some people are not comfortable with what the shades of grey means and want to go back to simpler train of thoughts.
Substitute shades of grey for the eye test and you're not far worng IMO
Never ceases to amaze me that there are actual united fans who think sacking this manager before the end of this season is ever going to happen.
Going beyond the fact that it would be crazy to sack him given the circumstances, does anyone think Ineos can afford
1. The negative PR of sacking their chosen guy after not supporting him in the January window
2. The 30 million it would cost them to pay up contracts
3. The cost of bringing in a new manager plus coaching staff
Going beyond the fact that it would be crazy to sack him given the circumstances, does anyone think Ineos can afford
1. The negative PR of sacking their chosen guy after not supporting him in the January window
2. The 30 million it would cost them to pay up contracts
3. The cost of bringing in a new manager plus coaching staff
Nothing would surprise me at this point. Stupid and as stupid does.
Tired of all the sack or quit rumours.
Amorim needs to be given at least the rest of this season and then see how United start next season.
He hasn’t been backed in the January window at all.
His biggest mistake has been to declare that he will only ever play one way/formation as that just gives ammunition to detractors.
Keep it a mystery
Amorim needs to be given at least the rest of this season and then see how United start next season.
He hasn’t been backed in the January window at all.
His biggest mistake has been to declare that he will only ever play one way/formation as that just gives ammunition to detractors.
Keep it a mystery
In his press conference today he said it's not the formation he refuses to change it's his approach and principles that he will stick to.
If Iraola agreed to come to united would you think it's worth stacking Amorim?
If that's what they care about, they're not going to sack Amorim and buy out his contracr, are they. But dream on if you want.
Madness to even think about sacking him at this point, as bad as we are, at least got to let him start next season, unless the unthinkable happens
The prize money difference between 16th and 8th for example, is £25 million, it's really weird that it gets ignored. So many are desperate to loan out underperforming players, sell Casemiro etc, to save a few million in wages. The money saved through those loans is dwarfed by the lost prize money.
The same Iraola that got 6 points from his first 11 matches at Bournemouth?
Young players.
I mean, one of those scenarios is absolutely under our control, we can sell or loan players out for X amount, it’s black and white.
Finishing as high up in the table as possible is not absolutely under our control…
Everyone would prefer us to move higher up the table, but focusing on and winning the EL is worth significantly more than finishing 8th
Ajax also fell apart without Ten Hag, doesn't mean much. The PL is a whole different level of competition.
Does anyone have even an inkling of hope tomorrow vs Everton? 3 months into the job a manager has got to start showing his worth at some point in the Premier League and putting points on the board no matter how many fans say it's irrelevant.
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Wouldn't make any difference. The players are the problem.
We're not going down, so regardless of what happens from here, he's going to be given a pre-season and as much support in the transfer market as we can muster, which probably isn't huge but if we sell Rashford and Antony and take Eriksen and what's left of Sancho's wages off the books, it'll be something. At least a new striker.
If t's still crap in November, we'll sack him then.
If t's still crap in November, we'll sack him then.
I’d take Ole back in a heartbeat if Amorim gets the sack. It’s obvious the manager alone isn’t the problem anyway. Our current state is due to several factors including an obscene amount of injuries.
Keep thinking back to when he first arrived saying this was his place and he belongs here and seemed very assured. A month or two in he was looking ill, someone with cold sweats, the pressure and fear creeping in. Think the players are showing the strains as well for a while, it was looking quite good in those first 4 weeks, lots of positivity and thumbs up to each other on good moves that didn't work out in a goal to try again. Whatever good Amorim had seems to have unraveled and he's found it very hard to find a good starting selection.