Ruben Amorim - Manchester United Head Coach

I just want to know that Ineos are still convinced by him, and that Amorim's heart is in it, if they are and it is then I'll get behind him and endure another rebuild.

But I'll feel cheated if Amorim suddenly decides to call it a day as he's bitten off more than he can chew, or Ineos have realised that they've misjudged what they thought they were getting again.

If either of those things are going to happen then they just need it done.
 
I’ve seen enough from our games to understand that we won’t be challenging with him, too naive and one-dimensional to go all the way in the EPL. He’s not a bad coach evidently and has identified / talked the right things but his rigidity will prevent us from winning anything. Having system and vision you believe in is a great attribute but you have to be flexible in some situations and he completely ignores the reality on the ground.

Let’s face it, if he was playing 4231 nobody would be expecting him to be flexible. Nobody would be saying he’s one dimensional. Supporters have it in their heads that this formation can’t work and expect him to change it.

He has absolutely feck all players available and we’ve got people moaning about him not being able to change it up. How is he going to do that? Our only two viable options were a youngster just back from injury a day ago, and an older player who has no physical attributes whatsoever. What is he supposed to do?

He’s shown flexibility when he’s had the chance. He’s tried every possible combination of players across the pitch. He’s allowed Garnacho freedom to play wider than he normally has his 10s, he goes 442 in different parts of the game. I think people need to accept that there’s just very little options available to him and, for obvious reasons, he doesn’t want to throw youngsters into this right now.
 
But I'll feel cheated if Amorim suddenly decides to call it a day as he's bitten off more than he can chew

Has a manager ever done that? like, do we have a considerable pool from which to draw examples of managers doing that?

just asking because I often see - on this forum - people mentioning the possibility of a manager "walking away" (usually when circumstances aren't ideal), but I don't recall ever seeing it actually happen
 
Aside from poor decision making/finishing in the final third, pretty much a perfect away performance in Europe. Before the pen, that is. I'm happy with the system. We just need to find the players who can really make it thrive.

Funny enough, I think we've adapted now to the system. i think the current problem we have now is personnel, not because they are necessarily bad, but some people simply don't fit. .

I think the ideal team is a strong, direct and attacking team, with a solid defensive shape.
At present, we've had four core issues that have stopped us from realizing that identity.

1. our midfielders are not great receiving the pass from the defence, so as a result we play really slowly out of the backline.
2. Our Central Midfielders are not athletic enough to operate in a 2 man midfield
3. Our pressing from the front hasn't been good enough
4. Our attackers don't have the athleticism or ball carrying ability to take advantage of the space provided by the system....which is supposed to be our main attacking outlet.

In terms of passing out from the back, what has become clear is that none of Casemiro, Mainoo or Ugarte can do this. In addition to this, Eriksen doesn't have the athleticism to carry this out. However, what we have discovered is that Bruno operates best as a central midfielder in this system and can support us as a passing option for defenders bringing the ball out of defence. In addition to this, the combination of him and Ugarte have the requisite level of athleticism to compete in the Premier League. I think we should sign a CM/DM that can play both as a 6 and an 8, but at the moment, I think that midfield partnership works. The key problem is that outside of those 2 and a young Collyer, we don't have anyone else that can play in the midfield 2 in this system.

In regard to our pressing, Zirkzee and Garnacho aren't the best at pressing and I think the system requires it a lot more than we have actually seen. This weakens our system. Its one of the reasons Amad stood out so much when he was fit. I also think Mainoo and Mount would have been really successful in the 2 no.10 roles to support this. I also think Hojlund isn't always as consistent as he should be in this regard, and as a result, we don't benefit from direct attacks in the opposition half as much as we should.

In regard to athleticism in attack and our ability to carry the ball in the from 5 (wingbacks, AM's and striker), I think this is where we are the poorest at the moment. The spaces are there, but when you have Dalot and Mazraoui who can't really complete takeons, Eriksen and Zirkzee who don't have the pace or bally carrying ability, Bruno needing to play deeper and Garnacho not having the positioning or strength to carry the ball centrally, it leads us to looking tepid in attack. From watching Amorim's system, this is supposed to be our main source of attacks, direct drives from those 5 players, causing havoc in the box and leading to a lot of cutbacks. Mainoo, Mount and Amad who could do this are all injured. So as a result, we end up clipping balls or stalling our attack.


Obviously a return from injury to some of these players would solve this issue.
However, I would sell Garnacho, Onana, Antony, Rashford and Zirkzee this summer. I would controversially keep Hojlund and Mount, as I feel, even as depth, they both work in this system.

In terms of profiles, we should be looking for athleticism as our key attribute for any player coming into this squad, as I think its key to succeed in this system.

In terms of positions, I think we should sing a new keeper ( Onana's presence has led to the defensive instability imo), an athletic attacking right wing back, an athletic CM/DM that can play as a 6 or an 8 and a new no.9 with a good first touch and can attack on his own.

I think in Mainoo, Mount, Amad, Shaw and Collyer, we have absent players who would already turn the performances around. But moving forward, even in depth, having strong athletic players is the key in making Amorim's system tick.
 
He's got better players, you can only do so much with what you have.

Agree with the general statement but contextually disagree, intrinsic value always frames perspective.

Leverkusen were second from bottom when Xabi took over and finished sixth. They were never looked at as having the potential to win the league, Alonso comes in and changes that dynamic. He had a managerial bounce on steroids but followed up that success being unbeaten in the following season.

Amorim practically admitted to Rio he's essentially got nothing left to offer and his lack of influence in performances and improving players individually has killed all the momentum every manager needs to instill belief in the players and themselves.
 
Agree with the general statement but contextually disagree, intrinsic value always frames perspective.

Leverkusen were second from bottom when Xabi took over and finished sixth. They were never looked at as having the potential to win the league, Alonso comes in and changes that dynamic. He had a managerial bounce on steroids but followed up that success being unbeaten in the following season.

Amorim practically admitted to Rio he's essentially got nothing left to offer and his lack of influence in performances and improving players individually has killed all the momentum every manager needs to instill belief in the players and themselves.
Yea that's true, but looking at their team when they won, they had a fantastic team with hidden gems.

They were also no doubt better taught players in general. Many of our players have such a problem with basic football understanding, managers come in and the players just don't know how to play modern football.

Even ole said he was forced to pick the football they used because they couldn't do anything more progressive. Ten hag changed our football after the first season to something more progressive and it collapsed.
 
Has a manager ever done that? like, do we have a considerable pool from which to draw examples of managers doing that?

just asking because I often see - on this forum - people mentioning the possibility of a manager "walking away" (usually when circumstances aren't ideal), but I don't recall ever seeing it actually happen

Maybe not been reported like that, but I'd say alot of managers have left because the job is just too big/difficult for them.

'Mutal consent' is how it's usually reported.

Not sure a manager on several million per year ever can just walk away contract wise.
 
Maybe not been reported like that, but I'd say alot of managers have left because the job is just too big/difficult for them.

'Mutal consent' is how it's usually reported.

Not sure a manager on several million per year ever can just walk away contract wise.

That's not what mutual agreement means. Mutual agreement means that both parties found an agreement regarding the termination of the contract, the alternative being that the club either unilaterally fire the manager in which case he is owed the entirety of his contract + bonuses or they can demote him and keep him under contract in which case he can't work for someone else.
 
Maybe not been reported like that, but I'd say alot of managers have left because the job is just too big/difficult for them.

'Mutal consent' is how it's usually reported.

Not sure a manager on several million per year ever can just walk away contract wise.

More like those managers left because their clubs decided the job is too much for them, rather than the managers saying that to the club.

The only manager I remember who chose to leave a job and admitted he took it as far as he could was Keegan with England.
 
More like those managers left because their clubs decided the job is too much for them, rather than the managers saying that to the club.

The only manager I remember who chose to leave a job and admitted he took it as far as he could was Keegan with England.
The manager would need to agree, a club cannot just decide it.
 
That's not what mutual agreement means. Mutual agreement means that both parties found an agreement regarding the termination of the contract, the alternative being that the club either unilaterally fire the manager in which case he is owed the entirety of his contract + bonuses or they can demote him and keep him under contract in which case he can't work for someone else.

So if Amorim and Ineos both agree that it's in everyone's best interests that they part ways because Amorim has realised the job is too much for him then isn't this the same thing?
 
So if Amorim and Ineos both agree that it's in everyone's best interests that they part ways because Amorim has realised the job is too much for him then isn't this the same thing?
That is what he is describing yes, this would mean Amorim wouldn't get bought out though, so it's unlikely.
 
The manager would need to agree, a club cannot just decide it.
In theory.

In practice, the manager and the club negotiate a severance package and they both go along merrily on their way. If the manager digs his heels in or takes the club to court, he never finds work as a manager again (see: Alan Curbishley).
 
In theory.

In practice, the manager and the club negotiate a severance package and they both go along merrily on their way. If the manager digs his heels in or takes the club to court, he never finds work as a manager again (see: Alan Curbishley).
He doesn't need to take the club to court, it wouldn't happen. Managers are paid what they are owed, you don't want a situation where managers don't trust your club.
 
So if Amorim and Ineos both agree that it's in everyone's best interests that they part ways because Amorim has realised the job is too much for him then isn't this the same thing?

My post was about what "mutual agreement" means, it's about how the contract is terminated. Managers can resign and if they do it won't be by mutual agreement, it will be a legal resignation(an unilateral decision) because the club has no reason to give any sort of compensation or put themselves in a situation where they should. In reality if you read mutual agreement the manager has been sacked 99.9% of the time.
 
It would be. But the bit about the striker is nothing but an assumption. United recruited without being in the CL before. And transfers aren't going to be held whether we bring in the 25-30 million we can expect from the CL. Obviously it sounds like a great piece but it really isn't.


Fecking hell. After 3 month... Surely no other explanations of why we play the way than he is a fraud.


Imagine trying to post something about tactics in here and then looking as if you don't know the difference between full back and wing back.

Yikes. Sorry mate

I don't know the difference, I've never watched a full 90 minutes in my life

Some absolute fecking dick sacks on here these days.
 
Yikes. Sorry mate

I don't know the difference, I've never watched a full 90 minutes in my life

Some absolute fecking dick sacks on here these days.
I honestly am not 100 percent sure what he's saying. Is he saying getting into the cl won't affect who we can attract?
 
Let’s face it, if he was playing 4231 nobody would be expecting him to be flexible. Nobody would be saying he’s one dimensional. Supporters have it in their heads that this formation can’t work and expect him to change it.

He has absolutely feck all players available and we’ve got people moaning about him not being able to change it up. How is he going to do that? Our only two viable options were a youngster just back from injury a day ago, and an older player who has no physical attributes whatsoever. What is he supposed to do?

He’s shown flexibility when he’s had the chance. He’s tried every possible combination of players across the pitch. He’s allowed Garnacho freedom to play wider than he normally has his 10s, he goes 442 in different parts of the game. I think people need to accept that there’s just very little options available to him and, for obvious reasons, he doesn’t want to throw youngsters into this right now.
Brilliant post. Spot on.
 
Fair points, but we are arguably performing more poorly now than under ETH. I say stand behind Ruben, but how many of these players are actually going to be in the squad when Ruben is still here in two seasons? Maybe 5 or 6 at most.

I think anyone holding out hope for another rebuild on the scale that Ten Hag was allowed to do will be sorely disappointed. I doubt the club has another £600m to spunk over the next 2-3 windows.
 
Agree.

I really don't get posters/fans being shocked after every game by how average we are.

If you haven't got players who can score goals football is really, really hard.
It's really odd. Like they suddenly expect the likes of Hojlund, Garnacho and Zirkzee to become levels better than what they've ever shown, or that Casemiro rolls back the years.
 
Not really, why would they give up the money?

They don't give up the money. They just announce it as a mutual concent. Someone has to initiate the move and managers rarely do that as they wait for the club to make the decisions. How they present it to the publis is meaningless.
 
Let’s face it, if he was playing 4231 nobody would be expecting him to be flexible. Nobody would be saying he’s one dimensional. Supporters have it in their heads that this formation can’t work and expect him to change it.

He has absolutely feck all players available and we’ve got people moaning about him not being able to change it up. How is he going to do that? Our only two viable options were a youngster just back from injury a day ago, and an older player who has no physical attributes whatsoever. What is he supposed to do?

He’s shown flexibility when he’s had the chance. He’s tried every possible combination of players across the pitch. He’s allowed Garnacho freedom to play wider than he normally has his 10s, he goes 442 in different parts of the game. I think people need to accept that there’s just very little options available to him and, for obvious reasons, he doesn’t want to throw youngsters into this right now.

Spot on
 
I just want to know that Ineos are still convinced by him, and that Amorim's heart is in it, if they are and it is then I'll get behind him and endure another rebuild.

But I'll feel cheated if Amorim suddenly decides to call it a day as he's bitten off more than he can chew, or Ineos have realised that they've misjudged what they thought they were getting again.

If either of those things are going to happen then they just need it done.
I feel both parties are in for the long haul. Amorim is totally committed to proving himself at United, and INEOS will give him the time and space to do so. I wasn’t one of those fanboys swooning when Amorim first joined the club, but I get the feeling if we back him he might just be the guy to deliver 21.
 
They don't give up the money. They just announce it as a mutual concent. Someone has to initiate the move and managers rarely do that as they wait for the club to make the decisions. How they present it to the publis is meaningless.
What you are describing is buying out the contact.
 
We keep thinking we are the great Manchester United from 20 years ago, and we're not. The only teams ahead of us with a worse squad in the league are probably Fulham and Palace. We have a lot of players who can't make simple passes, don't know where to run, don't know how to press, have 0 football IQ, and are not physical enough to win a single duel.
 
Yikes. Sorry mate

I don't know the difference, I've never watched a full 90 minutes in my life

Some absolute fecking dick sacks on here these days.
I honestly am not 100 percent sure what he's saying. Is he saying getting into the cl won't affect who we can attract?
Isn't it a possibility to simply ask what I mean?

@Castia I agree with your statement, I just think it is odd to say something about the necessity of certain profiles for certain positions and then appearing to not know the difference between fullback and wingback. Especially since this is one of the buzz words on here for at least 3 month. I thought it was ironic. No need to get personal.

@Hammondo No, I don't say that it won't have any effect, I think that the extent of this effect is overstated in here. Lets face it, had we lost today, this thread would be even more active and there would be posts saying that the manager is putting our transfer window at risk by not winning the competition.
 
What does successful entail? You don't need a manager who is in charge for 10 years, someone can carry you to a certain point and hit a plateu and he gets sacked so we find someone else to take us to the next level. That's fine
When exactly have we reached that next level in the last 10 years is love to know? If anything it’s been a steady decline
 
Funny enough, I think we've adapted now to the system. i think the current problem we have now is personnel, not because they are necessarily bad, but some people simply don't fit. .

I think the ideal team is a strong, direct and attacking team, with a solid defensive shape.
At present, we've had four core issues that have stopped us from realizing that identity.

1. our midfielders are not great receiving the pass from the defence, so as a result we play really slowly out of the backline.
2. Our Central Midfielders are not athletic enough to operate in a 2 man midfield
3. Our pressing from the front hasn't been good enough
4. Our attackers don't have the athleticism or ball carrying ability to take advantage of the space provided by the system....which is supposed to be our main attacking outlet.

In terms of passing out from the back, what has become clear is that none of Casemiro, Mainoo or Ugarte can do this. In addition to this, Eriksen doesn't have the athleticism to carry this out. However, what we have discovered is that Bruno operates best as a central midfielder in this system and can support us as a passing option for defenders bringing the ball out of defence. In addition to this, the combination of him and Ugarte have the requisite level of athleticism to compete in the Premier League. I think we should sign a CM/DM that can play both as a 6 and an 8, but at the moment, I think that midfield partnership works. The key problem is that outside of those 2 and a young Collyer, we don't have anyone else that can play in the midfield 2 in this system.

In regard to our pressing, Zirkzee and Garnacho aren't the best at pressing and I think the system requires it a lot more than we have actually seen. This weakens our system. Its one of the reasons Amad stood out so much when he was fit. I also think Mainoo and Mount would have been really successful in the 2 no.10 roles to support this. I also think Hojlund isn't always as consistent as he should be in this regard, and as a result, we don't benefit from direct attacks in the opposition half as much as we should.

In regard to athleticism in attack and our ability to carry the ball in the from 5 (wingbacks, AM's and striker), I think this is where we are the poorest at the moment. The spaces are there, but when you have Dalot and Mazraoui who can't really complete takeons, Eriksen and Zirkzee who don't have the pace or bally carrying ability, Bruno needing to play deeper and Garnacho not having the positioning or strength to carry the ball centrally, it leads us to looking tepid in attack. From watching Amorim's system, this is supposed to be our main source of attacks, direct drives from those 5 players, causing havoc in the box and leading to a lot of cutbacks. Mainoo, Mount and Amad who could do this are all injured. So as a result, we end up clipping balls or stalling our attack.


Obviously a return from injury to some of these players would solve this issue.
However, I would sell Garnacho, Onana, Antony, Rashford and Zirkzee this summer. I would controversially keep Hojlund and Mount, as I feel, even as depth, they both work in this system.

In terms of profiles, we should be looking for athleticism as our key attribute for any player coming into this squad, as I think its key to succeed in this system.

In terms of positions, I think we should sing a new keeper ( Onana's presence has led to the defensive instability imo), an athletic attacking right wing back, an athletic CM/DM that can play as a 6 or an 8 and a new no.9 with a good first touch and can attack on his own.

I think in Mainoo, Mount, Amad, Shaw and Collyer, we have absent players who would already turn the performances around. But moving forward, even in depth, having strong athletic players is the key in making Amorim's system tick.
Love this, great post.

The lack of dribbling ability in our team is staggering. There's hardly anyone who can beat a man in tight spaces and get away from them to cause problems. Amad can do and to an extent mainoo can but he does not have the running power to drive through their midfield after taking them on

If you look at modern football the best teams have players who can past people and get the defense running back, the Madrid derby the other day was the perfect example, all three goals were caused by driving past players at pace with the ball under control and getting a clear shot away or by tight dribbling in dangerous areas. We just don't have that profile at all, Antony, Sancho were supposed to be our defence unlockers but look how that's turned out.
 
The issue I see is, to get anywhere close to what we need, we would need to sign a lot of players and our FFP position just makes it unfeasible.

Amorim doesn't have the delivery in the wingback areas, he doesn't have the ball progression he wants from centre-back (or the recovery pace), he doesn't have the dynamism and drive in midfield he needs, he does not have another #10 like Bruno that has both the workrate and ability to be valuable to his out and in possession styles, he does not have a #9 that can hold the ball up, beat defenders one v one and score goals out of nothing.

Even if we somehow managed to sign all these players in a single summer, and every single buy worked out, he would have to be super lucky with injuries not to end up right back here: Using guys who are square pegs in round holes and hoping it all works out.

I just can't see it.

To be honest my biggest issue isn't the system, the lack of players 'suited' for him etc and things that aren't really in his control. It's what he 'should' be able to do in my opinion. On a base level, whilst he has given opportunities to younger players, generally puts the right players available on the pitch and subs, he hasn't really raise or improved any one player's game consistently.

I'm glad he's sidelining or managing minutes for players like Garnacho (discipline/tactical), Eriksen/Lindelof (ageing, non-physical), Casemiro/Rashford (financial). I like that he talks the right things, has a preference for Mainoo, Martinez, Yoro, Amad over others etc and wants to play in a more progressive way in the long term. However, why is it with 3 x CBs, 2 x CMs and 2 x 10s do we still have gaping holes in the middle? Why do we do half hearted press and low block lines? I understand he doesn't have Rio and Vidic at the back and Ronaldo and Rooney up front but he really needs to drill it into the players either off the pitch or during the game to play a higher line and press more cohesively. We should be having a lot of passing options to help facilitate the build up play but everyone is too rigid. When it happens once, twice or 5 times, you can blame the players but when it's dozens of games, the manager has to take his fair shame of responsibility for not adapting/raising the bottom level.

I empathise when players like Dalot can't play a first time cross for a very high chance goal scoring opportunity or when Garnacho misses a 1-on-1 chance but the football in general is still low level bad. Sure we have better shape and defend a bit better compared to under ETH but it's all surface level improvements.

I think he should absolutely get the summer and next year but it's mostly based on hope for me even though on paper he's doing the right things.
 
One of the best videos i have seen on Amorim tactics.

We just don’t have smart enough or brave enough players. We have players who play it safe to often and always go back. We don’t have passers who can play it through the lines especially since Martinez is out.
 
Isn't it a possibility to simply ask what I mean?

@Castia I agree with your statement, I just think it is odd to say something about the necessity of certain profiles for certain positions and then appearing to not know the difference between fullback and wingback. Especially since this is one of the buzz words on here for at least 3 month. I thought it was ironic. No need to get personal.

@Hammondo No, I don't say that it won't have any effect, I think that the extent of this effect is overstated in here. Lets face it, had we lost today, this thread would be even more active and there would be posts saying that the manager is putting our transfer window at risk by not winning the competition.
I couldn't find your original post.

Um I guess it's fair to see we struggle to attract already, winning this won't affect it much.
 
Isn't it a possibility to simply ask what I mean?

@Castia I agree with your statement, I just think it is odd to say something about the necessity of certain profiles for certain positions and then appearing to not know the difference between fullback and wingback. Especially since this is one of the buzz words on here for at least 3 month. I thought it was ironic. No need to get personal.

@Hammondo No, I don't say that it won't have any effect, I think that the extent of this effect is overstated in here. Lets face it, had we lost today, this thread would be even more active and there would be posts saying that the manager is putting our transfer window at risk by not winning the competition.

You came out on the attack because I said full back instead of wing back like it was a crime although it made no argument to the point I was making. Just nit-picking for the sake of it
 
To be honest my biggest issue isn't the system, the lack of players 'suited' for him etc and things that aren't really in his control. It's what he 'should' be able to do in my opinion. On a base level, whilst he has given opportunities to younger players, generally puts the right players available on the pitch and subs, he hasn't really raise or improved any one player's game consistently.

I'm glad he's sidelining or managing minutes for players like Garnacho (discipline/tactical), Eriksen/Lindelof (ageing, non-physical), Casemiro/Rashford (financial). I like that he talks the right things, has a preference for Mainoo, Martinez, Yoro, Amad over others etc and wants to play in a more progressive way in the long term. However, why is it with 3 x CBs, 2 x CMs and 2 x 10s do we still have gaping holes in the middle? Why do we do half hearted press and low block lines? I understand he doesn't have Rio and Vidic at the back and Ronaldo and Rooney up front but he really needs to drill it into the players either off the pitch or during the game to play a higher line and press more cohesively. We should be having a lot of passing options to help facilitate the build up play but everyone is too rigid. When it happens once, twice or 5 times, you can blame the players but when it's dozens of games, the manager has to take his fair shame of responsibility for not adapting/raising the bottom level.

I empathise when players like Dalot can't play a first time cross for a very high chance goal scoring opportunity or when Garnacho misses a 1-on-1 chance but the football in general is still low level bad. Sure we have better shape and defend a bit better compared to under ETH but it's all surface level improvements.

I think he should absolutely get the summer and next year but it's mostly based on hope for me even though on paper he's doing the right things.
This system works a lot better if we have players who are brave on the ball. We need passers and technical players for this system. We have players who don’t have high football intelligence and play it safe far to often. I’m looking forward to the summer and seeing how we can improve this team.
 
I refuse to accept that any other manager would find away of playing without Hojlund tonight. A false 9, whatever, but persisting with him over and over and not coming up a work around is piss poor for a Top level manager. He’s useless and tactically weak.

Agreed, Hojlund is offering literally nothing positive and his lack of impact hinders the side. Bringing off Garnacho but keeping him on is ridiculous. Ask the opposition who they'd rather play against and it would be unanimously Hojlund.

Garnacho causes problems to the defence and at least tries to make things happen and in a team starving for goals we need more of that than less of it. Hojlund just makes us predictable and easily contained. I would rather we play someone else as a false 9 and add a body to midfield or something, perhaps Zirkzee up top with Eriksen at 10 or Cas and Ugarte in middle and Bruno at 10.
 
This system works a lot better if we have players who are brave on the ball. We need passers and technical players for this system. We have players who don’t have high football intelligence and play it safe far to often. I’m looking forward to the summer and seeing how we can improve this team.

Well yes, that is obvious but I've already taken that into consideration. It still doesn't excuse Amorim being able to show, tell or coach the current players to do things better than what they are already showing. You can't just say 'play better, press higher, be more brave, be more attacking' (like Ole did), you need to actually have the ability to get the players to it. There are a lot of straight forward changes or tweaks that he can tell the players to do imo.

I do have faith in that he can bring the right players. I like Dorgu despite his rawness, I'd like Quenda and other midfield reinforcements but that's not the issue here. He needs to show he can get a raise out of players outside of ideals. I'm being harsh perhaps but he's got to either realise this sooner or show it for his own sake.
 
Well yes, that is obvious but I've already taken that into consideration. It still doesn't excuse Amorim being able to show, tell or coach the current players to do things better than what they are already showing. You can't just say 'play better, press higher, be more brave, be more attacking' (like Ole did), you need to actually have the ability to get the players to it. There are a lot of straight forward changes or tweaks that he can tell the players to do imo.

I do have faith in that he can bring the right players. I like Dorgu despite his rawness, I'd like Quenda and other midfield reinforcements but that's not the issue here. He needs to show he can get a raise out of players outside of ideals. I'm being harsh perhaps but he's got to either realise this sooner or show it for his own sake.
We lack technical players, we have never been a club that values technical ability as much as we should hy, and now we have very little.