Anyone calling for his head?
Let us know who, not what, you'd like to replace him with.
Let us know who, not what, you'd like to replace him with.
Ruben Amorim - Manchester United Head Coach
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He doesnt have the players for this formation.
Yesterday I would say 60-70% of our attacks were from the WB positions. You can;t have your full backs doing most of the attacking, thats not what they are there for. They should be supporting the attack. Leave the attacking to the forward players, the wingers, etc. He's also asking our 3rd CB to join the midfield, again, why? Why not just have a midfielder in there.
I get we are missing players and that we have a generally average squad, but we dont half exacerbate the problems with this formation.
Yesterday I would say 60-70% of our attacks were from the WB positions. You can;t have your full backs doing most of the attacking, thats not what they are there for. They should be supporting the attack. Leave the attacking to the forward players, the wingers, etc. He's also asking our 3rd CB to join the midfield, again, why? Why not just have a midfielder in there.
I get we are missing players and that we have a generally average squad, but we dont half exacerbate the problems with this formation.
Exactly my thoughts when I read that. I actually wish he had more ego/Jose about him at times. He's too humble and honest on most subjects.
Most are. I think it's time to bring in Sir Gareth and give the fans what they want. A boring, mundane, defensive system that gets the best out of these players. Solidify us in 8th - 4th for the next 10 years and keep everyone happy.
Yeah and they are brutal get rid of them
2 panic signings Eriksen and casemiro
1 that never should have been sanctioned in Mount
They have to go. Just because ten hag signed them doesn’t mean they don’t need to be shipped out
Has been for many games but last two we've been seeing more of midfielders dropping into the back line in possession.
Its actually appalling we've has to do this and shows how little confidence we have.
I thought that's your job Omar?
I saw the video. Rooney said what he said. Amorim said yeah it’s easy when your a pundit, I’ve been one too, and looked annoyed, then went on to say the rest.
His annoyance in reply to a logical statement suggests an ego problem to me.
I think Bruno has dropped at times, but to me it's obvious why. But off the ball we've gone more aggressive, man to man and had defenders pressing 20-30 yards higher up the pitch.
I'll tell you now, and this should be bloody obvious to anyone really, but this system is struggling because of the lack of quality in attack. We squander dangerous positions every few minutes with loose passing etc.
If you got told that Amorim was taking over when he did, and he would be without Rashford, Antony, Amad, Mount, Shaw, Mainoo, Martinez, and would only sign one LWB in january, I would love to have seen the reaction at the time. People were talking about relegation under ETH towards the end, and I think people would have been putting money on it if they knew what Amorim had to work with. Yet now they're still expecting him to try to have his system thriving with these conditions.
He is open to some criticism but I feel like people have completely lost their fecking heads now.
So it’s either Amorim or Southgate. Right..
I hope he has a huge ego. The best always do.
Onana was an ETH signing and Amorim inherited him. Same with Eriksen, mount and Casmiro, they don't count as "multiple managers" as they only have known two. The rest sure, but lindelof barely plays and is leaving. Shaw permanently injured, mount too. Evans returned after several years away from the club.
How do you propose in the current financial situation to "purge" this team and how much could it cost? Bear in mind if we don't win the europa we have no champions league or the money that comes with it.
Not the point though. You said players have been ‘failing for years’ and that simply isn’t true anymore. Ten Hag saw off most of the old squad in his two and a half seasons.
The worst also have ego issues.
So Amorim is amongst the best mangers now? I can understand Mourinho having and ego.
I think he's ideal for what the fans are talking about needing right now. Forget possession football, attacking football etc. Get us solid with these players and grind out wins. Get the most out of these players.
Don't know, hard to judge how good he is. Hopefully he is though, since he's our coach. You agree?
The ego is only good if the coach is actually good. When Fergie or Pep have massive egos, nobody bats an eyelid. With Ten Hag or De Boer however...
So ten Hag was no good because he was perceived to have no personality, but Amorim who is a very engaging and honest personality has an ego problem?
Yes. Otherwise we are fecked.
Yeah, but I think the best always have an ego or a hell of a lot of belief and confidence in themselves. If Amorim doesn't have that then, for me, it's not possible he will be one of the best. But I hope he does.
Agreed. Let's get behind the guy until something changes or he turns the corner as he did in his previous jobs, when his teams went up levels.
If we're still as bad next season then he'll be gone, I'm confident of it.
Yeah, this season it's an impossible job. Really lacking a few key profiles and injuries don't help.
We all knew the deal when we hired him. You bring in Amorim, you bring in his idea. What would be stupid, would be to to bring in Amorim, bring in his idea, then not allow the opportunity for that idea to be realised.
Of course he gets the summer. He gets a full preseason. He gets multiple players who fit his system and idea like a glove. Then and only then, do we draw conclusions.
Maybe he's just as frustrated as us with the dross he's seeing...
And then gets annoyed when Rooney asks, given he drove Plymouth into the ground as manager, the same Plymouth that knocked Liverpool out the cup might I add!
What happened between him and Rooney? A brief summarise please, anyone?
Does anyone here even think Rooney was unreasonable in what he said? He clearly wasn't, but Amorim will take any bait the press throw at him. All he has to do is say "that's his opinion" instead he has to brag about being the United Manager at 40. Pretty sure McGuinness was in his late 30s when he became manager, so it's not even that big of an achievement in terms of age. When you have nothing to brag about but "I got here at the age of 40" that's really nothing more than a cope.
come onVery well said. I would have thought this was obvious when he was hired.
It would be impatient and petulant in the extreme to sack him before that point.
Well he's partly why it's dross, perhaps he ought to look in the mirror? If Ruud could get them playing OK against Leicester and Chelsea, why can't he get them to play ok against even worse sides?
Do you know how people with only 1 idea are called?
L. O. L.
We've literally had younger managers, I just gave one. In terms of age, he's not the first. He won't be the last.
I'm actually very optimistic that we will sign players who have the correct characteristics/profiles. Amorim knows what his system demands and what he's currently lacking in terms of making it function. The main difference from previous windows is that in the past, we signed players because we felt that they were good. Under Amorim, everything should be a lot more specific. That specificity should make identifying players easier.
Multiple on that list have been failing for years
Get Big Gazza Southgate in.
Think that would suit the owners down to the ground, money coming in from European football. Think the fans would get up pretty quickly though.
Agreed. It's why I'm staggered by the lack of patience on here. It shouldn't need me to point out the obvious. Fans like to call for patience, but when push comes to shove, they haven't got any. It's embarrassing.