Dorgu has no issues playing in this system apparently though? He’s an Amorim signing
Ruben Amorim - Manchester United Head Coach
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Then why have the players clawed back a result, why have they won multiple trophies domestically despite the club objectively being in a rut.
It's very convenient to run these players under the bus momentarily but then abscond the idea when they bail the manager out or win important games.
Rubinho in!!!
Never in doubt
Never in doubt
They were both problems. And with an actual defence we would have done better obviously.
Whatever that set up in the 2nd half was, has to be the starting line up going forward!
The people trying to hound him out will be gutted.
Defence was a big part of the problem, thats why we finished with such a poor goal difference
One thing you can see is that this team would have totally folded at half time in the past. The mentality does seem to at least be somewhat improved. And I appreciate I'm grasping for positives by saying that.
I see. Everything around it is quite discouraging. If true, how can he be angling for ETH staying when we were crap. On the other hand, who knows what's true.
Yeah, this games 100% convincing this is the guy.....
Agreed.
The players are not trying to lose. They are just struggling to adapt to instructions that are alien to them.
Whatever we are getting from games it's not down to the system. It's down to the individual quality in the squad.
EtH, and now Amorim, seem to want players to play to the manager’s strengths. I will never understand this.
I said it in my last post - it is so annoying when managers are this dogmatic.
How do these managers expect to have everything set up exactly as they want to deliver the bare minimum? Challenging for trophies is another matter.
They won trophies without a manager?
Yep.
Berrada’s job is on the line. I think Brailsford still has a big influence behind the scenes which is unfortunate.
Towards the end can Gaal was using youth players more and the squad was balanced.
Also, the team did need a complete rebuild when he came in.
The money he spent over 2 yrs was relatively normal. Any other top club needing a rebuild would be spending the same level.
He wasn't even employed when that decision was made, so it strikes me as an INEOS briefing to save face
Get in lads
Is that right? He was officially appointed 1 July 2024. We won the FA Cup 25 May 2024 — so about a week later.
Draw id honestly get rid of Amorim. It's not the system either it's even worse than that it's his interpretation of the system.
Alonso is playing the exact same shape and the differences tactically is astounding. My conclusion from Amorim in his thread regarding Sporting (before he joined) was from observing Marcus Edwards that his system thrives off individual brilliance. To some extent this isn't a criticism as most formations require a players intuition but the defence is poor, the midfield is poor and the attack is poor.
All that will happen with Amorim is buying newer players to put them in positions there's no nuance or finalities to refine these players in their roles.
Alonso is playing the exact same shape and the differences tactically is astounding. My conclusion from Amorim in his thread regarding Sporting (before he joined) was from observing Marcus Edwards that his system thrives off individual brilliance. To some extent this isn't a criticism as most formations require a players intuition but the defence is poor, the midfield is poor and the attack is poor.
All that will happen with Amorim is buying newer players to put them in positions there's no nuance or finalities to refine these players in their roles.
This buys him vital time.
Sure, if you ignore the existence of the month of June
Yeah, what Mazraoui and Ugarte did to get Van Gaal sacked is unforgivable really.
Bad one from me.We’re definitely starting matches way too conservative. Yes teams drop off with a lead, and play more defensive - but we routinely go up a level in the second half and you can see hints of what we’re trying to do.
People point to getting lucky against Leicester and Southampton etc, and even Fulham, but there’s a big change in how we’re playing in those last 30 minutes, contrary to how we approach the first half.
People point to getting lucky against Leicester and Southampton etc, and even Fulham, but there’s a big change in how we’re playing in those last 30 minutes, contrary to how we approach the first half.
Turns out we don't have relegation level players. Apparently Bruno Fernandes is actually quite good. As is the £50m player from PSG. And turns out they have some fight.
Still the same concerns over the performance levels overall.
Still the same concerns over the performance levels overall.
He will get next season, but some results like this is good. Buys him time from unreasonable supporters.
I mean I'm still fully Amorim in because I believe he needs a proper transfer window and pre-season, but today wasn't exactly a show of confidence by any means. We deserved to lose
Once again play better when under the cosh and got something from nothing. Same as against Spurs.
Did well in the end vital point in our battle for the lower end,hope he can build on it
Maguire and Onana did a proper Plymouth level showings today.
Yeah but even with that, we are defensively suspect. Also who is this attacker you want to add? Who is going to get us goals, so you'll sacrifice the defenders for that we seem to need?
Even with this defensive setup we don't have any sort of control. You want to introduce more chaos into this side? For the miniscule chance of us creating chances?
He needs to convince the players, not the fans. Berrada won't sack him because of the fans.
Any system where we sacrifice our best attacker in Garnacho for a defender is a fecking stupid system. Playing more defenders doesn't make us more defensively solid. We had Mazraoui and Dalot literally in no mans land.
We will be the same by the next game, don't worry.Did well in the end vital point in our battle for the lower end,hope he can build on it
Yeah he cleverly picked a cb who's not actually our best cb. Mindless logic.This is the comparison and it's grimm
A major problem for him is that his subs do really well and claim a spot for the next game. Only to be utter shite when that game comes around.
Hopefully we get some good performances from the off in the remainder of the season.
Hopefully we get some good performances from the off in the remainder of the season.