Those examples
Full of world class players who had won the biggest trophies vs this mismatch of nonsense inherited by Amorim.
Ruben Amorim - Manchester United Head Coach
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Those examples
Full of world class players who had won the biggest trophies vs this mismatch of nonsense inherited by Amorim.
How? The 3 biggest holes are the same. There rest still aren't good enough.
That doesn't mean that he's free to lose every home game
You're right, we should have got Slot and won the league.
Zidane would win the CL with my Sunday league side too.
My system shall always play.
What's zidane up to these days?
What's zidane up to these days?
I recall when Amorim joined, he said he needs to get time and the only way he gets time is with results.
After all these weeks, the results aren’t good. Hopefully one of the journalists asks him to evaluate himself based on what he said (assuming Rashford isn’t a hot topic anymore).
After all these weeks, the results aren’t good. Hopefully one of the journalists asks him to evaluate himself based on what he said (assuming Rashford isn’t a hot topic anymore).
In the words of big Ange, it is what it is, mate!
He’s busy still not being interested in the PL or England in general.
If I were him I wouldn't have taken the job given how ill suited the team is to the one system he plays and our historic inability to recruit well
Zidane had peak Cristiano and Benzema
Amorim has a frontline with the average age of 20-22
Good luck with consistency
Uhhh yeah, exactly. He had those 5 absolute superstars to work with. Amorim has feck all.
There is literally no point blaming the manager until he’s had the opportunity to add some of his own players, because this squad is absolutely shite.
Oh thats not good.
Cult of the manager?! He's been here 3 months
Maybe he is a "best in class" bullshiter ?
And had the worst three months any United manager in living memory hadCult of the manager?! He's been here 3 months
It shows how low standards are that the 4th richest team in the world and second best paid team in the league are playing like relegation contenders and it’s being explained away.
Managing the worst United squad we’ve had in living memory too. Weird how that works.
Unfortunately I don’t think Amorim is here next season either and through no fault of his own as he said himself he was told by Ineos he either joined now or never even though Ineos knew there was barely any room to do anything in regards to bringing players he’d want in and knew Amorim was married to his system, he’s been set up to fail and brought in under false pretence although as Amorim has said himself he will play his system until the very end so won’t change no matter what.
Since coming in all Ineos have done is cut costs by getting rid of people and show they have no idea what they’re doing planning wise, they certainly talked a great game with the talk of “Wembley of The North” and “best in class footballing structure” yet have been an absolute disaster with their dithering and indecisions and went with Amorim because he’s the highly rated next big thing rather than looking at what we have currently and what was needed to stabilise then build from.
Just to further your point, they also looked old, slow and crap getting beat every other week a couple of seasons ago. So much so they had to go and buy Gravenberch, Szoboszlai and Mac Allister (They also tried to buy Caicedo/Lavia but ended up with Endo) to completely renew and energise their midfield.
You could prob pick a player from every club outside of the top 6 in this league to improve every position in our 1st team while only being allowed to choose 1 player max from each team, that's damning.
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It's simpler than that. We are broke. Can't draw blood from a stone.
which has nothing to do with my point.
We've been saying for years that we need a complete reset and then when one happens people wet the bed because the results are all over the place. Absolute babies.
What reset? He won't get a reset
what are you on about? He's in the midst of a reset.
Exactly, I think most of us could do well exposing the players’ limitations. On the other hand it may be because we’re not good enough for the task.
Probably something along the lines of "we have no money, so you'll need to work with what you've got".
And how is it going? He can't get a tune out of anyone and we won't be able to make big moves in the market
He's not going to get a full-scale squad clearout and replacement like his predecessors did
Sensible man then.
‘Armchair tacticians’ in this thread are getting really tedious now. Do they realise they are, on some level, part of the problem. Amorim’s repeatedly said a lot of the problem is the environment, and I think you have to realise that this is a massive factor and in all honesty a big part of what done in ten hag (though he obviously failed to deal with it doing things like pinning all his hopes on rashford of all people).
Amorim has shown enough to indicate he understands the problems, he has played at the highest level and demonstrated good pedigree in Portugal.
These sorts of problems cannot be fixed quickly, is that not fecking obvious by now? Help make the situation better, not worse for feck’s sake. Otherwise it’ll just be Iraola next for the circus appearance.
Amorim has shown enough to indicate he understands the problems, he has played at the highest level and demonstrated good pedigree in Portugal.
These sorts of problems cannot be fixed quickly, is that not fecking obvious by now? Help make the situation better, not worse for feck’s sake. Otherwise it’ll just be Iraola next for the circus appearance.
Work with a bunch of kids, who we'll probably sell in the future when they get good
A squad clearout is fine if you then rebuild a great squad. If anything ours has got worse and worse with every rebuild.
Yup, billions wasted only for the squad to get progressively worse. Borderline criminal malpractice!
Our captain is a 10.
It's literally wing backs, the only new thing needed. Two players. We've signed one already.
Play four at the back instead. We still need two new fullbacks.
I haven't seen someone sabotage their own arguments quite like this since my college girlfriend said that my knob was a little bigger than my best friend's.
Anyone that expected that he would come in halfway through a season, with this bunch of players, implement a completely new system of playing, and it not be an extremely rocky few months is utterly delusional.
There's rocky and then there's sitting at 1 point per game
Maybe not, but Rashford, Casemiro, Eriksen and a few more will go - which means he may have to promote youth and/or be extremely clever in the transfer market. Let's face the hundreds of millions that we have spent in the last decade has done us no good at all, so I'm happy to see something different.
I said pre season that we hadn't improved our first XI by any significant degree:
De Ligt isn't better than Maguire
Mazraoui marginal on Wan Bissaka
Ugarte average on the ball
Zirkzee...
Yoro not ready
All we did was pad out the squad.
It's all very predictable the result of it.
Yeah it’s tough to say “turn down United” but his best move was probably to tell us it’s next summer or nothing and call our bluff. I was worried about this when we first hired him, because our squad and forward line in particular is god awful even with Amad carrying a huge load of responsibility as a new breakthrough player. We were never going to score enough goals to give him a cushion for poor performances, and now you’re seeing that come to fruition where we have games where we play well yet can’t doing anything in the final third and then one individual error costs us and we lose
We've also knocked Arsenal out of the cup, qualified in 3rd place in the EL, and had excellent performances against our biggest rivals - do they not count?