Some of you need zero posting privileges for an hour after the game. Go shout in your garden or something.
Ruben Amorim - Manchester United Head Coach
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I would get in a conversation, but when we win next week, you won't be posting anything, so I won't bother.
The wing back are killing the system, have to hope that this punt on Dorgu has unearthed a natural for the role and maybe move Amad back to RWB.
Too many defensive players in the team and it is not working in terms of making the team defensively secure so change it up. Maza is an excellent FB but is not a WB, same with Dalot.
Give the guy a forward as well, can't abide watching the 2 donkeys we have anymore.
Too many defensive players in the team and it is not working in terms of making the team defensively secure so change it up. Maza is an excellent FB but is not a WB, same with Dalot.
Give the guy a forward as well, can't abide watching the 2 donkeys we have anymore.
I think he made a mess of it today, I understand not wanting to pick Zirkzee or Hojlund but we’d don’t really have an alternative.
We have virtually no attacking threat, it’s been that way since before he arrived and plenty more teams are going to come to Old Trafford and pick us off this season. I’m sure most of our points will have to come from away games.
We have virtually no attacking threat, it’s been that way since before he arrived and plenty more teams are going to come to Old Trafford and pick us off this season. I’m sure most of our points will have to come from away games.
Someone better hide the tvs in the dressing room.
This is complete nonsense. We’ve been struggling to score goals for two years. Luton got relegated with 52 goals scored, we scored 57.
Yep. And the guy after him will inevitably fail as well.
No let's keep this exact squad and hire another manager. That will do the trick.
Brighton had nearly 65% possession against Forest and lost 7-0. Means feck all. Why have you included corners and missed off other stats such as shots?
Yes, and A LOT fans are convinced Amorim can turn it around after a preseason.
It is hard to imagine it going much worse so far.
I suppose not winning at City, or "winning" by drawing at Anfield is the only way.
We dominated posession but had no attacking threat from Wingback and no striker. Hence we couldnt capitalize.
Biggest issue with this formation is 2 man midfield and will be very difficult to make it work against majority of the team in the premier league.
Thank you. Some of these comments are utterly ridiculous. I get that we’re awful but fecking hell.
If he is as bad as this and losing home matches against mid table sides for fun, yes I will.
Fact is Amorim has been appalling. The king is naked. Accept it .
He's in a much tougher league and he has to take some blame here since he had arrived.
Yes he was left with possibly the worst United team in years but he has persisted with a system which quite clearly doesn't work
Whether it doesn't work in this league or with these players remains to be seen.
Questions will have to be asked at some stage if this keeps going as it's hard to see what will change for the better
Not a single team is the same under those managers. Can you please stop merging disparate squads together. It's stupid amd creates a misleading narrative.
Which might offer a clue that the problems run a lot deeper than the manager (in ETH's case, he gets less slack because he played a major part in assembling this shit squad.)
The most concerning thing about this is that we've decided to bring a manager in that plays an entirely different system, and then haven't brought him in the players he needs to implement it.
Yeah this season is going the way I expected and Amorim himself called it from day one, it's going to be a rollercoaster of results. Hopefully we can keep our form up in the Europa and just focus on that.
3 matches? Ridiculous opinion. We haven’t won the league in 12 years. It’s going to take years to build a squad back to where you want us to be. But sure, why didn’t we go for a new manager bounce like we’ve done many times before with these shit players. They can’t be the problem. I actually understand it as we’re having to put up with losing all the time, but we have to judge him long term.
This manager at least has an actual system and the bollocks to feck off the likes of Rashford. Moyes would’ve had Rashford on a little purple patch while we look like we could sneak 6th. Some of us who can step back for a second and see this squad for what they are would’ve known that would’ve just been the same cycle happening again.
Few more games like this and he'll say this is the worst Manchester United manager ever.
We only have Amad who can play the wingback role currently at a decent level, and clearly he's being preferred as a 10 since we're lacking creativity upfront.
Until we get proper wingbacks we're not going to see consistent performances.
That said, apart from a handful of players the squad is very young so expect errors and inconsistent performances regardless while the squad develops
This is on him now.
Losing home games back to back is on him, players are cnuts obviously for not being able to play well against a canon fodder like Palace at OT but this is getting worse and worse especially at OT, at some stage Amorim has to figure out something, we only managed 2 home wins and lost 4 at OT since his arrival.
Losing home games back to back is on him, players are cnuts obviously for not being able to play well against a canon fodder like Palace at OT but this is getting worse and worse especially at OT, at some stage Amorim has to figure out something, we only managed 2 home wins and lost 4 at OT since his arrival.
We are going backwards, the results and performances prove that.
5 defensive players, who all pretty much suck defensively is not gonna work. Also I know they are his friends, but his set piece coach is dreadful
I love when meaningless expressions like that are thrown about and then I am told to accept it
What has that got to do with anything I said?
Sometimes a manager will do well for a couple of matches by just focusing on getting the absolute most in the short term.
Sometimes a manager tries to build something that will be more successful in the long term and it's very challenging initially.
RA said that he wanted the players to learn how to play his system, and that's why he won't change it this season, that doesn't mean the defeats can be ignored.
Except everton aren't even a team with individual quality, yet Moyes has them performing more than the sum if their parts. Maybe it's NOT JUST the players?
The amount of impatience here is incredible - as a club we have looked for the quick fix time and time and time again after Fergie retired, and how has it worked out?
Sit back down, take a breath, screw your heads back on, and reassess after we're settled down and Amorim gets 1) more time to train the system with his players, and 2) some players that fit the profile of what he is hoping to play.
For all those who say the players are good enough and the system is wrong: I agree the players are good enough - but clearly the footballing hierarchy at the club have decided that it's worthwhile bringing in a head coach with a different system despite the players not fitting, and have signalled that they will do what they can (within financial restrictions) to update the squad by bringing Dorgu in. Is it enough? No, probably not - but it's a start, and given our mismanagement over the last 12 years, it's bloody better than bringing in another "let the lads play" type manager like Ole.
Sit back down, take a breath, screw your heads back on, and reassess after we're settled down and Amorim gets 1) more time to train the system with his players, and 2) some players that fit the profile of what he is hoping to play.
For all those who say the players are good enough and the system is wrong: I agree the players are good enough - but clearly the footballing hierarchy at the club have decided that it's worthwhile bringing in a head coach with a different system despite the players not fitting, and have signalled that they will do what they can (within financial restrictions) to update the squad by bringing Dorgu in. Is it enough? No, probably not - but it's a start, and given our mismanagement over the last 12 years, it's bloody better than bringing in another "let the lads play" type manager like Ole.
Yep, not much of a rollercoaster if it's mostly downwards
It's not an unlucky defeat. Palace deserve there win.
It's simple we won't score enough goals playing with 5 defenders 3 central midfielders and 2 wingers.
90% of PL sides will sit in and defend very easily against our extremely tepid attack with confidence they can get a goal against our slow defence that also can't defend set pieces. And in fact that is exactly what they are doing letting us pointlessly pass the ball around waiting for a loose pass or touch and and then just run past our defence and midfield and your away.
Amorin has to get us scoring more goals, creating more chances being more of a threat on the attack but he refusing to pick enough attacking players and has just moved by far our biggest attacking threat on loan to a CL side.
It deserves questions.
He's already on a short leash unfortunately. He'll probably get till about 2 months into next season. If nothing changes, they will be on his back immediately.
We've had one January transfer window that isn't even over yet, in which we are heavily financially constrained. And we've still bought him a wingback.
The hell were you expecting the club to do? There are multiple years of rebuilding ahead and only so much that can be done in the short term.
I love when meaningless expressions like that are thrown about and then I am told to accept it
Well, you are free to accept whatever you want. I am talking from facts while you are believing the future hypothesis- which is yet to happen.
Really bizarre team selection today. Mainoo played well last time out as a 10, so we move him to a false 9? I know our strikers are crap but you still have to play one.
And yet again we set up with five defenders at home and wonder why we can't score a goal. Get some attackers on the pitch, please!
And yet again we set up with five defenders at home and wonder why we can't score a goal. Get some attackers on the pitch, please!
So 1 PL title out of 33? Is that correct?
He needs to stop playing Mazraoui at WB it's not working and it never will. Starting Mainoo at ST was another poor decision, he had a good game midweek in the 10 position, just let him continue there and build on that performance, Garnacho or Amad is better suited to play as the striker. Today is the first time that I felt that he got it all wrong with the team selection.