I don't see a lack of adaptability as a positive. If he can adapt midway through the season and then use the new transfers and a pre-season to embed his system its a fine balance.
Ruben Amorim - Manchester United Head Coach
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What a dumb post.
Yep, while on one hand bedding in the system is important, when the system basically just wastes a player in the back, and we get turned over by mid table teams at home constantly, chances are he should change it.
the absence of freekick/corner tactics is criminal. every game, fernandes just makes floating cross to back post for maguire to knock it to the middle where no man utd players are present
otherwise we lose every duel in attacking/defensive freekicks
otherwise we lose every duel in attacking/defensive freekicks
I'd argue we simply have players with good moments in them and over the season that normally works, this season it isn't and the actual quality of our squad is laid bare.
There’s zero chance any one of us expected it to go this bad after correctly sacking EtH. Should the last manager have been sacked? Yes. Are things going appallingly since? Also, yes.
His 3 matches?
What would you like explained about them?
He's playing to his players strengths to get immediate results rather than laying a foundation to raise the entire level in the long run.
That would make no sense. We have just bought a LWB ideal for Amorim and strong rumours of a RWB being purchased also. Sacking him would leave the next manger with players that don’t fit their system. Amorim will be given a lot of time- and rightly so imo
And what will we do when Iraola fails?
70-30% posession, 11-0 corners.
We dominated the game, absolute shit goal for palace while we hit the post or sky the ball.
Amad and Bruno with terrible game.
Maguire was playing them onside every counter they made.
Yes, we were unlucky and manager has nothing to do with it.
The loss is on Ruben today.
I’ve not seen a single positive or improvement since his appointment. Dealt with the Rashford issue of a sort, that’s the closest to a positive as I can find.
And you will be here saying the same thing about Iraola this time next year.
Conte literally won the prem with three at the back. What are you talking about.
We literally just got beaten by a team using the same formation so why is it that the formation doesn't work in the PL?
Formation talk is lazy, we were shite in 4231 too but the reasons weren't deemed formation.
Another weird and ultradefensive setup today. It’s hard to stay optimistic about whatever he’s trying and failing to do.
After Van Gaal, I didn't think we'd ever hire a manager with a style of football as dull as him, but this is by far the most boring we've been in a decade. Give me Ten Hag's kamikaze football over Amorim's 7 defensive players starting every home game.
Amad is a pretty obvious one.
That's five defeats in last six home league games.
Why did he try false 9 needlessly today. That too Mainoo who did so well in the midweek.
Amorim has had longer than 3 games in fairness.
Im not sure what to make of what we have seen so far
We are fortunate that the bottom 3 are absolute levels below even this terrible version of us.
No.
But it sure as hell goes a long way to making bad results in a league campaign that is already effectively dead in the water a poor cause for visceral complaints about the manager.
There are little real stakes left in the league this season, everyone including both the fans and manager were expecting bad results ahead, and the club seem fine with that short term cost of hiring Amorim.
So why get overly agitated about a predictable loss to a fellow mid-table team? This is what this season is.
Even Bielsa, the crazy Bielsa, would only play 3 at the back when playing against teams with two strikers.
If playing against a lone striker like today, he plays only 2 CB.
Moyes
But that's not entirely true. Why sack ETH if it's not about results? Amorrim is here to implement a system AND improve results and performances. Instead, the latter has gotten worse, and the former not gone smoothly. Hypothetically, if relegation did occur, is that a short-term struggle and he should keep his job?
Yeah. First time I'm thinking this way. What a howler playing without a striker. Early in the game, Garnacho flashed a ball past their goal, nobody was around.
We've got a week in between games for a few games now so hopefully we can get some good training in and a few more ideas across because the team looks lost and lethargic right now.
I really like him and want him to succeed but this is relegation form. Embarrassing stuff. At least adapt if you don’t have the personnel to play your system. I’m starting to think he’s a one trick pony. Even Pep adjusts his system based on whose injured.
At this point, this is nothing but cope. Amorim has shown nothing whatsoever that his system will ever work for us. Clinging on to hope that it will one day click without showing any progress at all is just naive.
Maybe it happens, but should the club spend the next 200m on the off chance it does?
We go for the next one. That's how manager changes works.
If only games were won on possession and corners won hey.Lets ignore the fact that the quality of chances fell on Palace who went through on goal twice in the game.
Tell me you didn't watch the game without telling me you didn't watch the game.
Performed just as bad? We finished 3rd and 8th the last 2 seasons. Last season’s football was bad but we picked up results. What we’ve seen in the league since Amorim came in is dire.
The club has taken a massive gamble (yet again) with a manager playing a new formation. It shows a lack of planning at all levels of the club. The higher ups should be deciding how we play and finding a suitable manager. Instead we go back to blindly backing the manager’s plans until it doesn’t work, and then have to replace half the squad because the next manager won’t play 3-4-3.
I want Amorim to work out but you can’t say he’s trying to balance the the side as best he can when he’s playing Mainoo as a striker, Dalot as a left wing back, Mazraoui as a wing back full stop and picking Onana who strikes fear into our defence whenever he plays.
It’s no secret that our players aren’t good enough but if you want a left footed right wing back then for now we have to play Amad there, if we want a left footed left wing back then we have to play Malacia until Dorgu is in the squad and if you’re going to pick Mainoo and Mazraoui then play them where they’ll be at their best.
I’m sorry but todays result is purely on Amorim and his team selection and where he put players positionally as we should never be playing a back 5 and a defensive midfielder and a false 9 who’s never played there at home then wonder why we haven’t created anything.
Nasty run of fixtures coming up now. Can only see things getting worse with this squad.
Played another side today where at least half their players would be starters for us. That's why we are where we are.
Played another side today where at least half their players would be starters for us. That's why we are where we are.
Eh? The point was he nearly has as many wins as Amorim and he has been there 3 weeks, whilst Amorim has been here three months, and has us getting beat by any half-decent team at home. Who mentioned Klopp?
We had 2 shots on goal, we never looked like scoring or had control of the game. It was rubbish, yet again. I get people wanting to back the manager and I really hope he turns it around, but he’s been awful up until now.
Yeah its up with Ten Hag putting mazaraoui as Am.
And that too when team had a run of confidence going. Build on it.
Also needed more attacking wingbacks today.