Ruben Amorim - Manchester United Head Coach

[Nogbadthebad]

The lack of interest, as in real offers with real money, coming in for Marcus tells me that the behind the scenes stuff is at least as bad as we think, and widely known in the game.

In that sense, saying anything publicly now is not making a blind bit of difference, other clubs have already made their mind sup about him.

I would guess that realistically, it will end with a move to saudi, or marcus having to start from scratch in proving himself to the manager and the supporters.

 

[NLunited]

It's not. After he spent £600m too.

Which players haven‘t improved us, besides Antony and sicknote Mount?

 

[UpWithRivers]

The problem is nothing is working. Nothing. You can see 101 reasons for the attack failing. No striker. No Wingbacks. Not number 8 that can drive through midfield and spread passes and on and on. But then what's the defenses excuse? Its weird. You look at them and individually and they dont look like they are playing that bad. But scratch the surface and you see that was our first clean sheet in 10 games or something? Even against Fulham there were fundamental mistakes. Maguire pushed out and they put the ball right in the space he vacated. We had to clear a header off the line even though Fulham are one of the worst teams at crosses. Munier had a clear cut chance from the pen spot. If that fell to a better player they would have buried it. And on and on. This defense should be the best in the league. There should be a load of 0-0's and 1-0's. We pay with 5 at the back and basically 2 DMs when Mainoo is playing. Plus we dont play a high line. Plus they dont even play out the back well. They do nothing great as a unit. Cant even defend crosses. OK at Arsenal etc they look like they are World class but generally they are poor.

Then you look at the midfield. What's their excuse? Ugarte + Mainoo should be a dream pairing. Ok Mainoo is out of form but even Ugarte + Bruno etc should at least be dominating Southampton and Fulham etc. But we never look like we dominate anything.

 

[Nogbadthebad]

Which players haven‘t improved us, besides Antony and sicknote Mount?

Onana
ZirkZee
Rasmus
Malacia
Yoro (one for the future, but given we have no money, an odd choice)

 

[Waywestofthere]

Any sign they aren’t trying? This group is notorious for downing tools. So, maybe they agree with the Rashford stuff. If so, this will help him, not hurt him.

 

[Sarni]

Amorim is an absolute supreme narcissist. He does not care about Manchester united. He didn't care about Sporting. What he cares the most is being in the spotlight - whether positively or negatively. He wanted to join us mid-season: not because he wanted to manage us, but because he wanted to be the sole focus of attention in the most popular league in the world.

He is destruction. And because he loves himself unconditionally, he will never change, he will take never responsibility. After the Ipswich match, he told the sport pundits that "no more press conferences after this one - I've done more in my first week of England than my whole time with sporting." This was just deflection from his true intention: to be a complete media whore.

He might bring some success, but my oh my, he doesn't give a damn about the club or the players. Those rumours of him flying over to west ham last season during midseason are true - he'll do anything to be the focus of attention. He'll say anything, do anything (even be sacked) to make sure his name is the headlines.

It's all right Erik, you will be all right.

 

[SparcMac]

Amorim is an absolute supreme narcissist. He does not care about Manchester united. He didn't care about Sporting. What he cares the most is being in the spotlight - whether positively or negatively. He wanted to join us mid-season: not because he wanted to manage us, but because he wanted to be the sole focus of attention in the most popular league in the world.

He is destruction. And because he loves himself unconditionally, he will never change, he will take never responsibility. After the Ipswich match, he told the sport pundits that "no more press conferences after this one - I've done more in my first week of England than my whole time with sporting." This was just deflection from his true intention: to be a complete media whore.

He might bring some success, but my oh my, he doesn't give a damn about the club or the players. Those rumours of him flying over to west ham last season during midseason are true - he'll do anything to be the focus of attention. He'll say anything, do anything (even be sacked) to make sure his name is the headlines.

Ok your highschool gf went to prom with him instead of you, but it was 25 years ago!

 

[ManWithoutTies]

And you know this how? Answer carefully.

I don't seek the approval of men, nor do I idolise anyone. Football managers are egotistical up to a point - but Amorim doesn't care about football. He just wants attention - and there's no greater place for that than here, over in England. He could indeed bring success to Manchester united, but it will be secondary to his primary need: perpetual attention. He could also bring relegation (he won't) and yet, nothing changes: as long as he gets his primary needs fulfilled he's satisfied.

am I willing to be wrong? yes. It is all based under circumstances and necessities, but there are many bad signs going towards the prospect that Amorim actually doesn't care about football management, but cares more about the platform it provides to be a media whore. Ten Haag actually cared about winning, proven by his repeated reminders of his cup wins. Amorim never brings up his past successes. Why? He doesn't care. When he defeated man city in his last game with Sporting, what did he say? : "The fans will think I'm the new Alex Ferguson." Not in success, but in popularity.

Mourinho brings destruction but because he cares about winning he will leave behind him a team of decent players (or sometime not - can't be successful everywhere) but Amorim, honestly, I don't think he cares about failure or success - but the media spotlight; and at all costs.

Have you ever asked yourself why he seems so relaxed?

 

[NotoriousISSY]

Any sign they aren’t trying? This group is notorious for downing tools. So, maybe they agree with the Rashford stuff. If so, this will help him, not hurt him.

from things I’ve seen or read over the last few years, at the club he appeared to be close to Lingard, Dean Henderson, McTominay, Sancho and Malacia for a variety of reasons. I’m sure he does have more ‘friends’ than that, but if we’re talking close pals…the majority are gone.

Other than other players who feel marginalised by Amorim, I’m not sure what kind of squad support he’d get nowadays. It felt as though the young player torch was passed onto Mainoo, Amad, Garnacho and Rasmus last season, and given the disparity in earnings between them and Rashford, I also can’t imagine they’ll have a desperate desire to cave in (for the Rashford cause) either, especially if he genuinely isn’t busting a gut behind the scenes to get back involved.

But I could be way off the mark because ultimately we know very little. This could be as far fetched as an elaborate plan to rid the club of his wages for all we know.

 

[Leftback99]

Which players haven‘t improved us, besides Antony and sicknote Mount?

Hojlund
Zirkzee
De Ligt
Casemiro
Malacia
Onana

Jury out on others

 

[343]

Amorim is an absolute supreme narcissist. He does not care about Manchester united. He didn't care about Sporting. What he cares the most is being in the spotlight - whether positively or negatively. He wanted to join us mid-season: not because he wanted to manage us, but because he wanted to be the sole focus of attention in the most popular league in the world.

He is destruction. And because he loves himself unconditionally, he will never change, he will take never responsibility. After the Ipswich match, he told the sport pundits that "no more press conferences after this one - I've done more in my first week of England than my whole time with sporting." This was just deflection from his true intention: to be a complete media whore.

He might bring some success, but my oh my, he doesn't give a damn about the club or the players. Those rumours of him flying over to west ham last season during midseason are true - he'll do anything to be the focus of attention. He'll say anything, do anything (even be sacked) to make sure his name is the headlines.

 

[sixdwarf]

I've said it before and will say it again, in the politest way possible, Amorim is stupid. If he wants rid of Rashford it is madness to say he is lazy and doesn’t train properly. That immediately reduces his saleability and value. Just talk about him being a good player who needs a fresh start. He and Ange are intransigent managers who get crap results and wont change. No one cares about philosophy if you’re losing.

I'm seriously concerned that Amorim, nice guy and all, is just out of his depth. And is confusing the ability to be flexible with weakness. Or more to the point believes being inflexible is strength

 

[Real Name]

Would it be kneejerk that I'm not sure if this guy has a clue how to organize a team in the PL?

Yes. Absolutely.

 

[Real Name]

Amorim is an absolute supreme narcissist. He does not care about Manchester united. He didn't care about Sporting. What he cares the most is being in the spotlight - whether positively or negatively. He wanted to join us mid-season: not because he wanted to manage us, but because he wanted to be the sole focus of attention in the most popular league in the world.

He is destruction. And because he loves himself unconditionally, he will never change, he will take never responsibility. After the Ipswich match, he told the sport pundits that "no more press conferences after this one - I've done more in my first week of England than my whole time with sporting." This was just deflection from his true intention: to be a complete media whore.

He might bring some success, but my oh my, he doesn't give a damn about the club or the players. Those rumours of him flying over to west ham last season during midseason are true - he'll do anything to be the focus of attention. He'll say anything, do anything (even be sacked) to make sure his name is the headlines.

Who's rocking your cage?

 

[Crackers]

I've said it before and will say it again, in the politest way possible, Amorim is stupid. If he wants rid of Rashford it is madness to say he is lazy and doesn’t train properly. That immediately reduces his saleability and value. Just talk about him being a good player who needs a fresh start. He and Ange are intransigent managers who get crap results and wont change. No one cares about philosophy if you’re losing.

I'm seriously concerned that Amorim, nice guy and all, is just out of his depth. And is confusing the ability to be flexible with weakness. Or more to the point believes being inflexible is strength

Previous managers have had similar concerns with him, and have tried to reason with him or outright appease him.

Amorim may be a little stubborn but he's totally in the right here. Our players have done the bare minimum for far too long.

It's not the philosophy, we've just got a team of players who have been badly coached for years and have become accustomed to mediocrity. Comparing Ange and Amorim is just lazy. If we're still here a year later sure, but you're jumping to conclusions to fit a narrative you've already built up in your head

 

[Escobar]

Fergie was but he always knew where and when to fight these battles. I'm not convinced that being so open about his criticism of the players is the correct play at this stage. And also, Fergie had a plan of what comes next.

I'm not saying Rashford should stay. I'm not even saying that Rashford isn't wrong. There's just a better way of dealing with all this nonsense.

Mourinho was just as critical of the players wasn't he and look how that ended. The argument that these players have been molly coddled for years and Amorim has come in to tell like it is for the first time in 12 years is massively flawed.

RA showed much more patience for Rashford than Fergie ever would. Just look what he did to much better performing players

 

[Cheimoon]

Amorim is an absolute supreme narcissist. He does not care about Manchester united. He didn't care about Sporting. What he cares the most is being in the spotlight - whether positively or negatively. He wanted to join us mid-season: not because he wanted to manage us, but because he wanted to be the sole focus of attention in the most popular league in the world.

He is destruction. And because he loves himself unconditionally, he will never change, he will take never responsibility. After the Ipswich match, he told the sport pundits that "no more press conferences after this one - I've done more in my first week of England than my whole time with sporting." This was just deflection from his true intention: to be a complete media whore.

He might bring some success, but my oh my, he doesn't give a damn about the club or the players. Those rumours of him flying over to west ham last season during midseason are true - he'll do anything to be the focus of attention. He'll say anything, do anything (even be sacked) to make sure his name is the headlines.

He didn't though did he?

No, he didn't. He asked if he could join at the end of the season, but United told him it had to be now.

 

[Cheimoon]

I don't seek the approval of men, nor do I idolise anyone. Football managers are egotistical up to a point - but Amorim doesn't care about football. He just wants attention - and there's no greater place for that than here, over in England. He could indeed bring success to Manchester united, but it will be secondary to his primary need: perpetual attention. He could also bring relegation (he won't) and yet, nothing changes: as long as he gets his primary needs fulfilled he's satisfied.

am I willing to be wrong? yes. It is all based under circumstances and necessities, but there are many bad signs going towards the prospect that Amorim actually doesn't care about football management, but cares more about the platform it provides to be a media whore. Ten Haag actually cared about winning, proven by his repeated reminders of his cup wins. Amorim never brings up his past successes. Why? He doesn't care. When he defeated man city in his last game with Sporting, what did he say? : "The fans will think I'm the new Alex Ferguson." Not in success, but in popularity.

Mourinho brings destruction but because he cares about winning he will leave behind him a team of decent players (or sometime not - can't be successful everywhere) but Amorim, honestly, I don't think he cares about failure or success - but the media spotlight; and at all costs.

Have you ever asked yourself why he seems so relaxed?

Here is what Amorim actually said in that SAF quote:

Amorim thinks anticipation will only increase if he can oversee a Sporting triumph on Tuesday, but he intends to avoid all the hype as he prepares for his final home game with the club.

“The focus is on winning the game for Sporting,” said Amorim at a press conference to preview the game. "If the result is negative, expectations will drop. If we win they will think that the new Alex Ferguson has arrived! After that, the inferences that people will draw from this game are not important to me because they could be misleading. If the result is negative, expectations will drop. If we win they will think that the new Alex Ferguson has arrived! That will be very difficult to live up to. I don’t think about that. What interests me is to win.”

Even if you can comment on the exact wording, there is nothing wrong with the sentiment expressed. But your interpretation of that quote tells us all we need to know about you.

 

[MadDogg]

Any sign they aren’t trying? This group is notorious for downing tools. So, maybe they agree with the Rashford stuff. If so, this will help him, not hurt him.

Wrongfully. It's an extremely lazy take that the fanbase latched on to, when it hasn't really happened.

The only season that the squad seemed to down tools was 21/22, the Ole/Rangnick season. It certainly didn't happen under ETH, as it was notable that despite his unbelievably bad and naive tactics that the players kept trying their best (other than Rashford and possibly Casemiro for a couple of months). What we were seeing under him (and what we're still suffering from now) is that those tactics utterly destroyed the confidence and belief of the squad, which makes it significantly harder for the players to actually perform.

It didn't really happen under Mourinho either, as the players who would have had reason to down tools were actually the best performers and kept him in the job for months longer than he should have been (while the players that he loved the most were the ones performing the absolute worst like Lukaku and Matic). Certainly didn't happen under LVG either.

 

[The Mitcher]

Wrongfully. It's an extremely lazy take that the fanbase latched on to, when it hasn't really happened.

The only season that the squad seemed to down tools was 21/22, the Ole/Rangnick season. It certainly didn't happen under ETH, as it was notable that despite his unbelievably bad and naive tactics that the players kept trying their best (other than Rashford and possibly Casemiro for a couple of months). What we were seeing under him (and what we're still suffering from now) is that those tactics utterly destroyed the confidence and belief of the squad, which makes it significantly harder for the players to actually perform.

It didn't really happen under Mourinho either, as the players who would have had reason to down tools were actually the best performers and kept him in the job for months longer than he should have been (while the players that he loved the most were the ones performing the absolute worst like Lukaku and Matic). Certainly didn't happen under LVG either.

Yep, pretty much. All different squads as well, but all the fans who post this line group every single squad into one as if it's been the same for nearly 15 years!

 

[Withnail]

I don't seek the approval of men, nor do I idolise anyone. Football managers are egotistical up to a point - but Amorim doesn't care about football. He just wants attention - and there's no greater place for that than here, over in England. He could indeed bring success to Manchester united, but it will be secondary to his primary need: perpetual attention. He could also bring relegation (he won't) and yet, nothing changes: as long as he gets his primary needs fulfilled he's satisfied.

am I willing to be wrong? yes. It is all based under circumstances and necessities, but there are many bad signs going towards the prospect that Amorim actually doesn't care about football management, but cares more about the platform it provides to be a media whore. Ten Haag actually cared about winning, proven by his repeated reminders of his cup wins. Amorim never brings up his past successes. Why? He doesn't care. When he defeated man city in his last game with Sporting, what did he say? : "The fans will think I'm the new Alex Ferguson." Not in success, but in popularity.

Mourinho brings destruction but because he cares about winning he will leave behind him a team of decent players (or sometime not - can't be successful everywhere) but Amorim, honestly, I don't think he cares about failure or success - but the media spotlight; and at all costs.

Have you ever asked yourself why he seems so relaxed?

You've offered no proof at all.

Ten Hag got stick for banging on about the Cup wins when the team were in free-fall. It's would be pretty pathetic for Amorim to repeatedly tell us how he was Billy big balls back in the Portuguese league. It wouldn't do his credibility or standing in the game any favours at all.

You've seemingly just invented this whole crack-pot theory. Are you ok?

 

[roseguy64]

Wrongfully. It's an extremely lazy take that the fanbase latched on to, when it hasn't really happened.

The only season that the squad seemed to down tools was 21/22, the Ole/Rangnick season. It certainly didn't happen under ETH, as it was notable that despite his unbelievably bad and naive tactics that the players kept trying their best (other than Rashford and possibly Casemiro for a couple of months). What we were seeing under him (and what we're still suffering from now) is that those tactics utterly destroyed the confidence and belief of the squad, which makes it significantly harder for the players to actually perform.

It didn't really happen under Mourinho either, as the players who would have had reason to down tools were actually the best performers and kept him in the job for months longer than he should have been (while the players that he loved the most were the ones performing the absolute worst like Lukaku and Matic). Certainly didn't happen under LVG either.

Yep, pretty much. All different squads as well, but all the fans who post this line group every single squad into one as if it's been the same for nearly 15 years!

Agreed. I so hate it when I see people trot out the line and group every single team of the last 10 years into one. You can count on zero hands the first team players who have been here through all that. The closest are Rashford and Shaw who are both out of the team for different reasons.

 

[bavarianred]

Yep because in interviews he talks highly of Garnacho... as per your logic this should drive the value up... yet no one wants to pay more than 50m.

We cant depend on Rashford, he has shown it over the years that he is lazy and not a team player.

By your post, you seem to think this squad is amazing, if you think the manager is wrong.

I don't think the squad amazing, but I also think it's pretty cheap of a coach to say that the team just isn't good enough when you've had 3 months to improve at least small things. Of course we have massive problem areas in our squad, but it's not as bad as we're currently playing. And as a coach you have to work with your squad and get the best out of it and not just impose your working system from the previous club and then complain that it isn't possible with this team. Of course I'm in favor of giving him time, but I just don't like his public demeanor at the moment. Too self-confident considering that there is little to nothing happening on the pitch.

 

[Valencia Shin Crosses]

Wrongfully. It's an extremely lazy take that the fanbase latched on to, when it hasn't really happened.

The only season that the squad seemed to down tools was 21/22, the Ole/Rangnick season. It certainly didn't happen under ETH, as it was notable that despite his unbelievably bad and naive tactics that the players kept trying their best (other than Rashford and possibly Casemiro for a couple of months). What we were seeing under him (and what we're still suffering from now) is that those tactics utterly destroyed the confidence and belief of the squad, which makes it significantly harder for the players to actually perform.

It didn't really happen under Mourinho either, as the players who would have had reason to down tools were actually the best performers and kept him in the job for months longer than he should have been (while the players that he loved the most were the ones performing the absolute worst like Lukaku and Matic). Certainly didn't happen under LVG either.

Too often people seem to equate lack of athleticism/pace/stamina with "downing tools" because a player might look like he's not trying when in reality he's slow and sluggish as feck. Our current squad is possibly the worst in the league in overall athleticism, so we we get outran/outmuscled/outdueled it's far more due to that fact than simply thinking that players aren't trying hard enough.

 

[Idxomer]

Yes. Absolutely.

You're probably right.

For what it's worth, It was a reaction to one of the few interesting moments in the game. Fulham had the ball in their half after a corner and a few of the United players were looking at each other seemingly wondering what they were supposed to do. Robinson just left the ball for a few seconds unattended till Bassey came back to start the build-up, United players kept watching that entire move. United's pressing line was taken out of the game easily in the next two Fulham's passes. There was a replay of this bit because it's so rare to see a team just comfortable leaving the ball like that with the other team barely reacting. You could see Bruno going crazy before the halfline during that replay.

 

[Big Ben Foster]

Yep, pretty much. All different squads as well, but all the fans who post this line group every single squad into one as if it's been the same for nearly 15 years!

Yup, we've done at least 3 full-scale clearouts since SAF retired (with each one somehow bringing in a worse set of players than the last), but people still talk about the squad as if it hasn't changed at all.

 

[MCDC]

I don't seek the approval of men, nor do I idolise anyone. Football managers are egotistical up to a point - but Amorim doesn't care about football. He just wants attention - and there's no greater place for that than here, over in England. He could indeed bring success to Manchester united, but it will be secondary to his primary need: perpetual attention. He could also bring relegation (he won't) and yet, nothing changes: as long as he gets his primary needs fulfilled he's satisfied.

am I willing to be wrong? yes. It is all based under circumstances and necessities, but there are many bad signs going towards the prospect that Amorim actually doesn't care about football management, but cares more about the platform it provides to be a media whore. Ten Haag actually cared about winning, proven by his repeated reminders of his cup wins. Amorim never brings up his past successes. Why? He doesn't care. When he defeated man city in his last game with Sporting, what did he say? : "The fans will think I'm the new Alex Ferguson." Not in success, but in popularity.

Mourinho brings destruction but because he cares about winning he will leave behind him a team of decent players (or sometime not - can't be successful everywhere) but Amorim, honestly, I don't think he cares about failure or success - but the media spotlight; and at all costs.

Have you ever asked yourself why he seems so relaxed?

Just because you post this nonsense in multiple groups doesn’t make it true.

 

[Waywestofthere]

Wrongfully. It's an extremely lazy take that the fanbase latched on to, when it hasn't really happened.

The only season that the squad seemed to down tools was 21/22, the Ole/Rangnick season. It certainly didn't happen under ETH, as it was notable that despite his unbelievably bad and naive tactics that the players kept trying their best (other than Rashford and possibly Casemiro for a couple of months). What we were seeing under him (and what we're still suffering from now) is that those tactics utterly destroyed the confidence and belief of the squad, which makes it significantly harder for the players to actually perform.

It didn't really happen under Mourinho either, as the players who would have had reason to down tools were actually the best performers and kept him in the job for months longer than he should have been (while the players that he loved the most were the ones performing the absolute worst like Lukaku and Matic). Certainly didn't happen under LVG either.

It’s the Ragnick season that was coming to mind as both him and Amorim have taken the be brutally honest approach. Granted there are differences in players and Ralph was an interim, but the point is that they are still playing for the guy—and maybe part of it is because collectively they are tired of passengers. I have no idea, just a speculation.

 

[alexthelion]

Amorim is an absolute supreme narcissist. He does not care about Manchester united. He didn't care about Sporting. What he cares the most is being in the spotlight - whether positively or negatively. He wanted to join us mid-season: not because he wanted to manage us, but because he wanted to be the sole focus of attention in the most popular league in the world.

He is destruction. And because he loves himself unconditionally, he will never change, he will take never responsibility. After the Ipswich match, he told the sport pundits that "no more press conferences after this one - I've done more in my first week of England than my whole time with sporting." This was just deflection from his true intention: to be a complete media whore.

He might bring some success, but my oh my, he doesn't give a damn about the club or the players. Those rumours of him flying over to west ham last season during midseason are true - he'll do anything to be the focus of attention. He'll say anything, do anything (even be sacked) to make sure his name is the headlines.

Where did this come from?

Is this Marcus posting under an alias?

 

[Eriku]

More like ManWithoutEyes

Either that or he walked in on Amorim and his missus having at it. Good lord.

 

[McTerminator]

I've said it before and will say it again, in the politest way possible, Amorim is stupid. If he wants rid of Rashford it is madness to say he is lazy and doesn’t train properly. That immediately reduces his saleability and value. Just talk about him being a good player who needs a fresh start. He and Ange are intransigent managers who get crap results and wont change. No one cares about philosophy if you’re losing.

I'm seriously concerned that Amorim, nice guy and all, is just out of his depth. And is confusing the ability to be flexible with weakness. Or more to the point believes being inflexible is strength

I disagree.

Rashford has had weeks since his interview saying he wants to leave to find that move away without any real ‘character assassination’. He has failed.

He now realises he has failed and thinks he can do a few posts on X to convince the fans he’s working harder than anyone else in training to generate pressure on the manager to bring him back in.

Amorim has flipped the script on him and blown his usual strategy out of the water. He’s also done this while Marcus still has the ability to find a way out of the club.

At the right wage and saying the right things Rashford can find a move away this month he just has to get a hold of reality and accept that Turkey, Saudi or Como may well be the clubs he needs to use to do it.

Time will tell but It’s arguably a master stroke because now if Rashford fails to find a move away or apply himself the way the manager wants there can’t be a media storm once the window closes of “Amorim must start playing him again” he already set the marker and in my eyes, good on him.

The players (Rashford included) can now be under no doubts of what is required to get along in this club and for once it has something to do with football!

 

[Waywestofthere]

if you guys don’t think that there is influence from that Ralph team on this team, then I don’t know what to say.

Having said that, yeah, downing tools was probably not the right term as that implies willful lack of effort. This sometimes lack of effort is more nuanced than that (and before you say it’s athleticism, Amorim, Bruno, etc have called out the lack of effort).

maybe I should say it like this: when things go bad, it doesn’t appear like they give up the fight quite as easily as they have done in the past—which makes it seem like they’ve still got time for the manager.

 

[Cathy Ferguson]

I am glad he said we have made mistakes in the transfer market and must be careful. He knows we are poor on and off the pitch.

 

[romufc]

I don't think the squad amazing, but I also think it's pretty cheap of a coach to say that the team just isn't good enough when you've had 3 months to improve at least small things. Of course we have massive problem areas in our squad, but it's not as bad as we're currently playing. And as a coach you have to work with your squad and get the best out of it and not just impose your working system from the previous club and then complain that it isn't possible with this team. Of course I'm in favor of giving him time, but I just don't like his public demeanor at the moment. Too self-confident considering that there is little to nothing happening on the pitch.

Lets look at it.

A goalkeeper that keeps making mistakes.
No Left back / Wing back that can stay fit or good enough
only 2 competent CM's one who is in his 2nd full season and 1 in his first for the club.
A back line that is slow
2 ST that can both combine their attributes and still cant make 1/2 a decent CF because one of them (Hojlund) isnt even good enough for the championship.
The highest paid winger cant be asked to run.

Yeah, it is a really bad squad.

He is trying to work with the squad but we have had games every 3/4 days since he joined, so he cant work with it.

 

[Cathy Ferguson]

Lets look at it.

A goalkeeper that keeps making mistakes.
No Left back / Wing back that can stay fit or good enough
only 2 competent CM's one who is in his 2nd full season and 1 in his first for the club.
A back line that is slow
2 ST that can both combine their attributes and still cant make 1/2 a decent CF because one of them (Hojlund) isnt even good enough for the championship.
The highest paid winger cant be asked to run.

Yeah, it is a really bad squad.

He is trying to work with the squad but we have had games every 3/4 days since he joined, so he cant work with it.

Sums it up, but don't think more training time will do much. The players are too poor, we need new players which we can't afford.

 

[Bowlcut11]

I disagree.

Rashford has had weeks since his interview saying he wants to leave to find that move away without any real ‘character assassination’. He has failed.

He now realises he has failed and thinks he can do a few posts on X to convince the fans he’s working harder than anyone else in training to generate pressure on the manager to bring him back in.

Amorim has flipped the script on him and blown his usual strategy out of the water. He’s also done this while Marcus still has the ability to find a way out of the club.

At the right wage and saying the right things Rashford can find a move away this month he just has to get a hold of reality and accept that Turkey, Saudi or Como may well be the clubs he needs to use to do it.

Time will tell but It’s arguably a master stroke because now if Rashford fails to find a move away or apply himself the way the manager wants there can’t be a media storm once the window closes of “Amorim must start playing him again” he already set the marker and in my eyes, good on him.

The players (Rashford included) can now be under no doubts of what is required to get along in this club and for once it has something to do with football!

This is a great post and sums the situation up really well.

Too often have we seen the PR posts come out after Rashford has another bad run of form or a boozy night out etc. saying that he's focused on football and putting in extra work.

It doesn't wash anymore and I'm glad Ruben called it out as the nonsense it is.

 

[romufc]

Sums it up, but don't think more training time will do much. The players are too poor, we need new players which we can't afford.

In the summer we will be able to.
We are going to be saving 80m on just wages of players that will leave.

We will probably make 1 sale that can give us 150m spending room.

The problem is, we dont have 1 priority positions, we have 5. GK, LWB, CM, LAM, ST. They are all as big a priority.

 

[Theo88]

In the summer we will be able to.
We are going to be saving 80m on just wages of players that will leave.

We will probably make 1 sale that can give us 150m spending room.

The problem is, we dont have 1 priority positions, we have 5. GK, LWB, CM, LAM, ST. They are all as big a priority.

Are you assuming sancho , Erisken, lindelof and Cas are gone ? And Marcus too ? 80m is a big decrease.

 

[Cathy Ferguson]

In the summer we will be able to.
We are going to be saving 80m on just wages of players that will leave.

We will probably make 1 sale that can give us 150m spending room.

The problem is, we dont have 1 priority positions, we have 5. GK, LWB, CM, LAM, ST. They are all as big a priority.

Very few players will leave and new players want salary too.

 

[Rusholme Ruffian]

I don't think the squad amazing, but I also think it's pretty cheap of a coach to say that the team just isn't good enough when you've had 3 months to improve at least small things. Of course we have massive problem areas in our squad, but it's not as bad as we're currently playing. And as a coach you have to work with your squad and get the best out of it and not just impose your working system from the previous club and then complain that it isn't possible with this team. Of course I'm in favor of giving him time, but I just don't like his public demeanor at the moment. Too self-confident considering that there is little to nothing happening on the pitch.

I genuinely think he was talking about 'team' as in the way the 'team' is playing together, rather than saying 'this is the worst set of players Manchester United have ever had'. And he was including himself in that, basically saying that he's doing even worse than the guy he's been brought in to replace. It's always hard when someone is speaking a second language (although his English is superb), and I'm guessing from your username that you might be a German interpreting the comments of a Portuguese man made in English, and I can totally understand that sometimes his comments come off as a lot harsher than (I believe) they were actually meant.

I do think he is either a bit naive about how his comments will be interpreted, or he's super clever and this is all part of some masterplan. I'm going with the latter, but I guess time will tell.