Ruben Amorim - Manchester United Head Coach

unfortunately in the extended version he went on to praise hitler and talk about using nose measurements when signing players, which you’ve now said you agree with.

Dammit. Just wiki'd him and his full name is Ruben Goebbels Himmler Amorim. He's made a fool of us all.
 
Most possession we've had at Anfield since how long?


My memory of the last 3 games at Anfield is just us camped outside of our box hoping for the best. Wasn't any better under Mourinho and Solskjaer too
 
Looks like it kinda did…
We have raised our game numerous times in these games previously, I don't think we are quite fixed.

I'm sure with more long weeks of training we'll improve further though.
 
One week of training, that should fix it.

Jesus Christ.
I ain’t one to usually come back to posts but… one week of training makes a massive difference. Still a lot of room for improvement.
 
I ain’t one to usually come back to posts but… one week of training makes a massive difference. Still a lot of room for improvement.
My point was more that you said 'no excuses' now that he's had a week of training. We are far from fixed but a massive stride in the right direction.

With a full pre season we'd see a far better team.
 
We have a pretty decent run of fixtures from now until the end of the season really, there’s not really any crazy period I can see with the potential to overwhelm us. Next couple months in particular look good on paper. So we really need to start seeing some consistency and a move up the table, it’s a good opportunity for Amorim to shape the team properly. Hopefully we can bring in a couple of players this month to help make that happen. Certainly feeling more optimistic
 
My point was more that you said 'no excuses' now that he's had a week of training. We are far from fixed but a massive stride in the right direction.

With a full pre season we'd see a far better team.
Can’t argue with that.
 
Everyone keeps saying we need a LWB which is correct but don't we also need a RWB?

I love Maz but in this system RCB is probably his best fit.

Yes. Two proper WBs and a proper striker are absolutely key IMO. We won’t see his system reach its potential until that happens.
 
It's so refreshing that we've gone to Anfield and didn't sit back and try to just absorb pressure. We kept the ball well and pinned Liverpool back at times.

I believe in Amorim. There's clear progress in our performances. Excited to see what he can do with more time and reinforcements.
 
We have a pretty decent run of fixtures from now until the end of the season really, there’s not really any crazy period I can see with the potential to overwhelm us. Next couple months in particular look good on paper. So we really need to start seeing some consistency and a move up the table, it’s a good opportunity for Amorim to shape the team properly. Hopefully we can bring in a couple of players this month to help make that happen. Certainly feeling more optimistic
58 points is United's worst ever PL tally.

To beat that, we'd need to take 36 points from the remaining 54 points available.

That's probably a tough ask if United stay in The Europa League.

Still have to play a lot of the top 12 away. Forest, Chelsea, Newcastle, Bournemouth, Fulham, Brighton, Brentford, Spurs.

30 points from the next 54 would equal to 53 points. 23 points from 20 games is pretty crazy.
 
Most possession we've had at Anfield since how long?


My memory of the last 3 games at Anfield is just us camped outside of our box hoping for the best. Wasn't any better under Mourinho and Solskjaer too

Most since the Juanfield game in 2015.

Our win in 2016 with the Rooney winner, we actually didn't play well and had much less possession if I recall correctly.
 
58 points is United's worst ever PL tally.

To beat that, we'd need to take 36 points from the remaining 54 points available.

That's probably a tough ask if United stay in The Europa League.

Still have to play a lot of the top 12 away. Forest, Chelsea, Newcastle, Bournemouth, Fulham, Brighton, Brentford, Spurs.

30 points from the next 54 would equal to 53 points. 23 points from 20 games is pretty crazy.

Yeah, I’m not expecting miracles, but certainly a surge up the table should be achievable. A good run in one or both of the cups we’re still in would of course be nice as well, but I really want to see some consistency from here on.
 
Amorim is right to be angry. The players will get praise for today’s performance, but it just proves they pick and choose when to give shit.

That is the issue that needs fixing more than everyone being fixated on 3 at the back, look he’s playing 3 at the back (repeat 10x)
 
I think it’s tactical as well ie Dalot good today because big game more counter attacking space to burst into and less intricacies needed and likewise Maz sitting back as a wing back less of issue.

We need to change personnel for the smaller sides especially in wider areas.
Yeah you could see it quite early in Amorim's tenure as well. I think it was against Plzen or Bodø, where Malacia started for the first time in 18 months or whatever and continually found himself with the ball far up the pitch but couldn't really create anything. I couldn't help but think what a player with more offensive quality would have done in those positions.
Dalot has the same issue when he's playing on the left.

Bringing in a proper LWB should be high up the list of priorities. Don't know who it would be though.
 
Everyone keeps saying we need a LWB which is correct but don't we also need a RWB?

I love Maz but in this system RCB is probably his best fit.
So far Amad has been able to do a job there when called upon. But yes, we don't exactly have other players who can play there and who are great offensively.
 
Much better but I've been burned by too many false dawns. We need to bring this same intensity against Southampton, Brighton and Fulham. Win these three games and we can put any lingering fears of relegation behind us.
 
The tactical sessions this week were self-evident in this game. Aspects that were tactically present today, which weren't prior :-

  • Dalot keeping the width, and on multiple occasions going on-on-one versus Trent and sprinting round the outside
  • When pressed in our half, WB's inverting passes to Hojlund at half-way and Bruno/Amad dropping in for the layoff
  • CB's making a concerted effort to pass in front of the receiving CB to keep momentum
  • Marked increase of switched balls and immediate overlap option of WB
There were, of course more to observe, however, it's plain to see that there's systematically more automation happening across the field which is making us much more successful in building possession and transitioning.

Excellent post. Now that you say, I agree. I saw the same but took me your post to notice.
 
Obviously glad for the result today but feels like too many people are getting carried away. We beat Liverpool and City to the FA Cup last season. The squad can be game raisers at times. I’m more interested in how we play against Southampton and Brighton as that should be 6 points.

Brighton are no way near guaranteed 6 points. They are exactly like Nottingham, Bournemouth. Really really well drilled, brilliant tactically with a brilliant coach. That's a bigger challenge than Liverpool.
 
Great performance from all the players in the field today but Amorim also showed a pair of balls today - sticking with his formation again and sending the team out to play football and not park the bus.

I've been behind him from the start but I'll admit that a few doubts had crept in and was worried that the job was maybe too big for him at this stage of his career.

Today proved a massive point. He needs to be backed 100% in the market, starting with a striker.
 
He is so angry and he is completely correct. These ungrateful losers only try for the historic "big" games. Amorim wants to win everything, these players turn up for the media headlines of one result. I think it's clear now he had no idea just how bad we were internally before turning up, and it's going to be a slog to completely rebuild the culture/mentality of the club. There are too many players here that think they've made it based on wearing a badge.

light fire to this club Amorim, we will back you.
 
Everyone keeps saying we need a LWB which is correct but don't we also need a RWB?

I love Maz but in this system RCB is probably his best fit.

We need an LWB so Dalot and Amad can share the RWB duties and Maz never plays at wingback.

He’s not a wingback at all, never has been. At Dalot’s worst, he had the stamina and the discipline to keep width and knew how to make the right runs and to find space, but he was wasteful.

Mazraoui has none of the basics needed for the position. It’s so evident to me, but most people are hyperfixated on Dalot. Our right side has been dead every time Mazraoui plays there, and for the most part, that was true today too. Probably the worst part about him at RWB is that he fails to stretch the back four in a way that gives Amad space. He tucks in too much and almost tries to play like a midfielder. Amad is starved for space. Compare that with Dalot’s positioning and runs that create a lot of space for Bruno. That’s why whenever the CBs look up, they end up playing the ball to the left.
 
Today proved why he is the man and should be backed. That was the most exciting and competitive match by us at Anfieild since the Fergie days. Brought back Fergie era memories.

Imagine if we had a top class striker today, we would have won!

Imagine what he can do with players having this application week in week out! Some will have to be bought, some existing may be able to do it also.

Great effort by the lads and Ruben!
 
Brighton are no way near guaranteed 6 points. They are exactly like Nottingham, Bournemouth. Really really well drilled, brilliant tactically with a brilliant coach. That's a bigger challenge than Liverpool.
They’ve not won since November, they’re average as feck
 
I ain’t one to usually come back to posts but… one week of training makes a massive difference. Still a lot of room for improvement.
Amorim said it wasn‘t the training, but the players raised their game in his post-match conference. Although I‘m sure it helped.

Now we need to see the same stuff in smaller games: players stepping up taking responsibility and working for each other.
 
Well done to Amorim in getting a results at Anfield. Surprised many people with his tactical moves.
 
We have raised our game numerous times in these games previously, I don't think we are quite fixed.

I'm sure with more long weeks of training we'll improve further though.
I was being facetious, to be fair. But I wouldn’t underestimate the impact of having a few solid training sessions. It’s exacerbated when you bring in a new manager with a different system and formation, mid season.
 
Brighton are no way near guaranteed 6 points. They are exactly like Nottingham, Bournemouth. Really really well drilled, brilliant tactically with a brilliant coach. That's a bigger challenge than Liverpool.
Brighton at home is a bigger challenge than Liverpool away?! That's a ridiculous thing to say.