And you want to bring an ill player to an away game in terrible weather?
Ruben Amorim - Manchester United Head Coach
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Just his game face. He doesn’t like losing, it’s a good thing. He’ll make damn sure to turn this around!
You could be right, and that's why my second part in my post says Amorim should not allow them to revert to type.
Dont agree. He has shown to be ruthless with the smaller sides. 70 pct of the times Sporting got an early goal, they ended up crushing the opponent (3+ gd). Slowing down out of sloppyness really puts him off. Soon we will see i guess.
Doing the double on them in successive years with Van Gaal was better, but still nice to not get mullered today.
December 14th 2014
Manchester United 3-0 Liverpool
Wayne Rooney, Juan Mata, Robin van Persie
March 22nd 2015
Liverpool 1-2 Manchester United
Juan Mata x 2
September 12th 2015
Manchester United 3-1 Liverpool
Daley Blind, Ander Herrera, Anthony Martial.
January 17th 2016
Liverpool 0-1 Manchester United
Wayne Rooney
No more leaks
Disagree, yes, Eriksen, Cas and Zee aren't very physical, but they and everyone on pitch vs Newcastle didn't try at all, and today they showed up, for me it always has been a collective issue, last night everyone was on it, everyone including the subs, even Zee was tusling and pressing and all, and then vs Newcastle, it wasn't everyone, to be exact none was on it, and you can see the difference, this is why Amorim is very upset despite the great performance, because he feels these players don't always give their all.
Wait, am I reading this correctly that its the first full week of training the team has had under Amorim?
Not to fully excuse all our performances but that just seems an obvious and massive disadvantage. Makes a day like today that much more standout impressive
Not to fully excuse all our performances but that just seems an obvious and massive disadvantage. Makes a day like today that much more standout impressive
I’ll let you in a secret, the chances of him been ill are very slim
Of course. Will be interesting to see what happens now, especially with MR out of the picture too.
Yea he’s had very little time off the pitch for training which is surprising g that he’s been here 2 months. I have full belief that if Utd back him we will have success.
But a high chance he was hungover
I must have PTCD (post traumatic Caf disorder) because I read this as he should be sacked first time round!
It’s always far quieter on here when we do well. It’s sad really.Curious there's no sign of the posters calling for his head the past few weeks
All the foaming at the mouth numpties must have been left heartbroken by Amads equaliser.
Following United is a bit like life in that sense.
No turned corners, no dawns-false or otherwise. It wasn’t anything like that. It wasn’t even a step forwards on a long road back, all it was for me was a reminder of how we can/should play and just to show we have the quality to forget about relegation IF the players apply themselves correctly in every game. If that was ever a real concern (for me it wasn’t) then I think it has to be put to bed now. Look forwards!
You could have Complex Post Traumatic Caf Disorder. Prolonged exposure to moaning about the fact that we've been shite!
Should’ve been sacked the next day.
It's pretty clear to see. Against City and Liverpool the players were mostly up for it so the performance and results were good. Then you played worse opponents at home and blew it. It's consistency/motivation issue. Under normal circumstances, the same team would have lost against Pool and City.
It’s a weird thing. It does I agree, but also I would expect professional footballers to understand enough about the game to follow tactical instructions- whether the system is familiar or not.
Carl Anka said he spoke to a former player who said the current squad is poor in physicality, poor in technical ability but also not very bright - which seems a stinging criticism. Odd that they seemingly need to be spoonfed this stuff though when they will all have been playing since they were kids.
Yet here we are with fans urging us to reach the ultimate highs of EL or Conference League every year to make sure the next season is also almost never about training stuff but about regeneration.
I think, you underestimate the magnitude of the job. To give a team an organisation, a synchronization is quite a difficult thing to do I guess. Especially with a squad with many players starting almost from zero in this aspect (given how badly organized we are since years) and with mentality and physicality issues on top. The things Amorim alluded to in his latest interviews show, that some players have to learn to restrict their instincts because they have to understand not only to do the right thing in any given moment but the right thing for the team. It will take some time for our players to really understand their roles. And once thats achieved, we'll slowly collect some fruits in terms of patterns of play and raised synergies.
Yep I'd say they were alright!
I am not at all surprised that it would take time to change. It's not simple stuff I'd imagine. It has to come without thinking, automatisms. I cant imagine those are easy at this level. Things like distances, timings, press triggers etc. To do all of those at the right time without thinking....time on training ground.
Something has to be said about the fact that there, for the first time in his tenure, was nearly a full week in between games. Actual training sessions were able to be had with his system. They now have another full week off before Arse next week in the FA Cup. Feels like to me this is a big part of the reason why they looked so much better this week and could take even another step forward next week.
Still, though. Going to be tough without a 9 that can put the ball in the net.
Still, though. Going to be tough without a 9 that can put the ball in the net.
It’s true that he’s had more time with them in training this week, but you can’t train to fight more and believe more, which they did all over the pitch. They need to carry that belief and desire into every game and they’ll be in the top 5 before the end of the season. There’s no excuse for the levels they’ve displayed in recent weeks.
That’s been clear to see for weeks baring the City game.
The performance today has to give the squad the belief in themselves, in their teammates and Ruben.
If this doesn't, I don't know what will.
If this doesn't, I don't know what will.
It helps that RA picked our best side today. I really hope he sticks with it now and stops making so many changes.
I have never seen a manager that could get such a great performance out of this bunch of players. Suddenly, every single one of them look like a top players. What has he done?
The players suddenly have all the attributes of top players. Ball control, speed and agility, stamina, work ethics, tactical awareness, game intelligent and most importantly play as a team!
The players suddenly have all the attributes of top players. Ball control, speed and agility, stamina, work ethics, tactical awareness, game intelligent and most importantly play as a team!
Humpty Dumpty's team looked like they were about to lose until the penalty. Bald fraud. He is lucky Salah is still there.
I hope the players understand what it is needed week in and week out. United will not roll over and get beaten, which happened against Forest, Bournemouth, Wolves, and Newcastle. This is the minimum expectation from fans that we go toe-to-toe, whether home or away. I want more urgency to attack and create, not boring football where CBs are passing to one another. I hope Amorim gets his message across and we start the same starting five for the next game.
The positivity and confidence in our play was day and night.
Last sleeping on it and looking at the football back. This is what I have seen now without emotions.
1. The blueprint of 343 was extremely visible yesterday.
2. The most difference which happened yesterday was how the defence was on 10 yards ahead of previous line.
3. How CB were always stepping in and pinch the ball. Martinez first goal, he himself pinched a loose ball from Trent and stayed up front and remarkably when Bruno played him a pass in Liverpool box, he was almost unmarked.
4. Dalot really had a very good game, previously he would have his body in a WRONG Turn thus he wouldn't attack space when he has ball. But yesterday his body position was elite, he was on half turn but on a forward turn. Saka style. He gave Trent a very hard time.
5 Ugarte and Mainoo are such great footballers.
But the most glaring difference yesterday was motivation. How Amorim was able to motivate the players and extract such a performance from them was good to see. Everyone applied himself well.
The team played a very risky game, and we know high risk high reward. The rewards yesterday was in belief of the system.
Now, we can agree, we have a team that can play 343. Not this nonsense of we can't compete.
Amorim has shown he can structure and motivate a team in the highest level.
Now we can rest assured, whoever doesn't play how Amorim want should leave.
We can splash money for Amorim specific needs.
Enjoy
1. The blueprint of 343 was extremely visible yesterday.
2. The most difference which happened yesterday was how the defence was on 10 yards ahead of previous line.
3. How CB were always stepping in and pinch the ball. Martinez first goal, he himself pinched a loose ball from Trent and stayed up front and remarkably when Bruno played him a pass in Liverpool box, he was almost unmarked.
4. Dalot really had a very good game, previously he would have his body in a WRONG Turn thus he wouldn't attack space when he has ball. But yesterday his body position was elite, he was on half turn but on a forward turn. Saka style. He gave Trent a very hard time.
5 Ugarte and Mainoo are such great footballers.
But the most glaring difference yesterday was motivation. How Amorim was able to motivate the players and extract such a performance from them was good to see. Everyone applied himself well.
The team played a very risky game, and we know high risk high reward. The rewards yesterday was in belief of the system.
Now, we can agree, we have a team that can play 343. Not this nonsense of we can't compete.
Amorim has shown he can structure and motivate a team in the highest level.
Now we can rest assured, whoever doesn't play how Amorim want should leave.
We can splash money for Amorim specific needs.
Enjoy
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I agree that Maz has looked better as a RCB than a RWB. A fit and in form Luke Shaw would have transformed this team - by himself and also helped move Dalot to RWB. But that ship has sailed.
I dont think you can compare those matches. It was city at their all time lowest under Pep, meanwhile Liverpool are at their absolute best in years. And its not like a 0 - 0 under Ten hag where we just parked the bus. We played extremely well and even a win would have been deserved.
I think in the long run though he’ll go to what he did at sporting. He usually had one winger playing on one side and then an actual defender as the other wing back.
That was a good performance and a much needed relief for him after losses in the previous four games. He is also close to identifying a first XI and I think 8-9 players from the XI who started yesterday will be a part of that XI. We need to do everything in our power to get him at the minimum a striker & a LWB, and if possible another CM, in the January transfer window. If we can get him those then we can still get something out of the season.
Having said that, I won't go overboard with the performance or the result yesterday. We have seen in the past that we can perform reasonably well when we are the underdog and play in a mid to low block. Our struggles begin when we have to be on the front foot and take the initiative from the get go. That is where we have to improve and that's paramount of doing well in the league: winning and performing consistently against regular mid-table & bottom-table teams.
For me, still, the season begins on Jan 16th with the game against S'ton. From then on we have a few winnable league fixtures, a chance to finish in the top 8 of the Europa table and a two week break coming up at the right time for the manager to get more training time on the pitch with the players to get his ideas across. We can still potentially have a very good season.
Having said that, I won't go overboard with the performance or the result yesterday. We have seen in the past that we can perform reasonably well when we are the underdog and play in a mid to low block. Our struggles begin when we have to be on the front foot and take the initiative from the get go. That is where we have to improve and that's paramount of doing well in the league: winning and performing consistently against regular mid-table & bottom-table teams.
For me, still, the season begins on Jan 16th with the game against S'ton. From then on we have a few winnable league fixtures, a chance to finish in the top 8 of the Europa table and a two week break coming up at the right time for the manager to get more training time on the pitch with the players to get his ideas across. We can still potentially have a very good season.
This is basically his argument post-match. they looked awesome today. But can't do it against anyone else. It's not 3-4-3, its not anything in particular. These players only go out there for big match headlines and now he's seen that in the flesh he's furious. He wants this every week, they need to mentally grasp what is required.
Have people forgotten the 4-3 vs Liverpool under EtH, 2-1 vs City in the final, even the community shield loss we played very well, 1-2 vs City under Amorim.
These players can do this very well and have shown this over the last 9 months.
Consistently bringing this level is the main issue however.